What's the best Democratic Presidential Archetype for 2028?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.

What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you stop focusing on the "type" of person you might come up with a winner. Choosing someone because "it’s time for an X" is why you keep losing. Notice the only time Trump lost, was to an old white guy….

This. Need a middle aged white guy.

We "need" the best person for the job you racist low IQ troll.

We do... but we need the electable candidate. PP is not wrong, sadly.

PP wasn’t wrong that Democrats need to stop focusing on the “type” of candidate, but then they seem to be ignoring their own wisdom. The answer isn’t that the only electable candidate is a white male “type”. The answer is to nominate someone without considering their type.

People say that Kamala Harris lost because too many people were racist and/or sexist to vote for a black woman. While that’s a convenient excuse, it ignores some relevant facts. For one thing, Nikki Haley was pretty popular among Republicans outside the Trump cult, being his main opponent in the primaries. The fact that Kamala Harris was a woman certainly wouldn’t have deterred Nikki Haley primary voters from swinging their votes to Harris in the general. Secondly, a lot of Obama voters (who apparently were fine voting for a black candidate) ended up voting for Trump. If the Democrats had kept all the Obama voters, I think we’d have President Harris now.

I think Kamala Harris is a highly intelligent and accomplished woman, imminently capable of being president. Democrats understandably took umbrage to her being described as a DEI candidate. Unfortunately, it was the Democrats who pigeonholed her into that slot. Instead of Biden saying that after a great deal of research and soul-searching, he had concluded that she was the best running mate and potential Presidential replacement (and the fact that she is both black and female is an interesting coincidence that will be a nice historical footnote but has no bearing on her selection), he vowed to select a woman and then was publicly pressured to select a black woman. So the message wasn’t that he had selected the best candidate who happened to be a black woman, it was that on the short list of black women he was given to consider, she was the best option available.

The next candidate can be black, white, or any other color. They can be male or female. The “type” doesn’t matter. What matters is convincing the electorate that they were chosen not because of any type, but because their policies will be best both for the country as a whole and, perhaps more importantly, for the individual voter.

If you want a candidate chosen on merit rather than identity politics, you’re in the wrong party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.



What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

Securing the border and stopping illegal immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.



What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

Securing the border and stopping illegal immigration.

That’s it? We are having to live through the worst presidency in history so that he can fail at something this hard? Biden and Obama were way better at it, and this is the cherry on his $hit sundae?

Wow, embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.



What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

Securing the border and stopping illegal immigration.

That’s it? We are having to live through the worst presidency in history so that he can fail at something this hard? Biden and Obama were way better at it, and this is the cherry on his $hit sundae?

Wow, embarrassing.

You sound unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

Given that there were people who were voted for Trump because of his ability to hold their attention, entertain them and generate a good meme, unfortunately this isn't the worst idea.

Newsom and AOC... together are they passably SUPER hot? Oyyyyy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.

What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

You’re not laughing hard. You’re waking up sweaty and terrified in the middle of the night that the next “mean tweet” is about to emerge. I’ll bet you also started the other thread about how your happiness has been impacted since Trump was re elected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.

What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

You’re not laughing hard. You’re waking up sweaty and terrified in the middle of the night that the next “mean tweet” is about to emerge. I’ll bet you also started the other thread about how your happiness has been impacted since Trump was re elected.

Lmao…no.

Ashamed of my country? Sure.

However, maga is pretty weak and pathetic and it won’t last. How sustainable could such a fear-based movement be?

Once Donnie Diapers eats that last McNugget it’s all over, anyway. In ten years almost no one will admit that they ever supported him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

This sounds at least partly sarcastic and silly - but unfortunately it is part serious too. The fixation on superficial is why Dems keep losing.
You may not like Trump but at least he had a real plan and he is doing what he promised.

Omg, I am laughing so hard.



What exactly was his plan? Economic destruction and overt racism?

Lmao.

Securing the border and stopping illegal immigration.

That’s it? We are having to live through the worst presidency in history so that he can fail at something this hard? Biden and Obama were way better at it, and this is the cherry on his $hit sundae?

Wow, embarrassing.

You sound unhinged.

No, I can just read. It’s fundamental to understanding things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

Given that there were people who were voted for Trump because of his ability to hold their attention, entertain them and generate a good meme, unfortunately this isn't the worst idea.

Newsom and AOC... together are they passably SUPER hot? Oyyyyy.

Especially juxtaposed with Trump and JD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if the Dems nominated a ticket with one man and one woman and they were both SUPER hot? Like really really hot

Given that there were people who were voted for Trump because of his ability to hold their attention, entertain them and generate a good meme, unfortunately this isn't the worst idea.

Newsom and AOC... together are they passably SUPER hot? Oyyyyy.

They are at best attractive for a politician. No one would call either an objective smokeshow, which is what we need at this hour.

[Anonymous]

Old white straight guy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Old white straight guy

We’ve tried that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The archetype is Populism.
Ds will follow the same sociopolitical path as the Rs. Different, but the same.

The people vs the elite dynamic is the reality in modern day politics and therefore populism in its truest form may be our best medicine.

In other words, in a government designed to be of the people, by the people, for the people, all other schemes having failed, the Democrats might finally be willing to attempt representing the people.

IF they actually LISTEN to the people and prioritize their general welfare over special interests, they may actually win. On the other hand, if they continue to sneer contemptuously at average voters and try to tell them that the Democrats know what the voters need better than the voters themselves, they might continue to have difficulty, even as bad as Trump/MAGA is. At least the Republicans pretend to listen.

The distribution of wealth and power has become too uneven and the strain of it has society at a breaking point - something’s got to give. The last time there was this much tension between the haves and the have nots, desperate people turned for any solution that offered relief, which led to the rise of both fascist and communist regimes. While they’re typically viewed as opposite poles of the political spectrum, they’re actually just different names for tyranny. Whatever ideology the leaders claimed to seize power, the goal was always power. Once any party had secured their power, the ideology was consigned to window dressing for the government, which was no more interested in the general welfare than the government they had replaced. Right now, the right is already at that place, offering the country dictatorship over a democracy that has been failing the populace. Democrats must be vigilant to remember that the counter to a right wing dictatorship is not a left wing dictatorship, but rather a free country SERVING the will of the people.

I realize Democrats want to remake society into their version of Utopia, and if they can reclaim power and hold unto it, they’ll be able to advance whatever agenda they want. However, people are struggling and need to be given some hope that things can improve for them. Stop dividing voters, and above all, stop alienating them. Who cares if they disagree with you on an issue, as long as they vote to put you in power to do what you want? If they’re considering violating some of their principles (which are as dear to them as yours are to you), you don’t have to insult them. Sometimes I think the Democrats would rather feel smugly superior to voters who voted against them than to win the votes of some who might have incorrect opinions.

The overwhelming majority of Americans support the democrats agenda:
-more jobs
-growing GDP
-international alliances that grow business and opportunity
-capitalism with guardrails that protect clean air, clean water, safe foods and worker exploitation
-affordable healthcare
-sensible gun laws that prevent the mentally ill from owning weapons and limit weapons that have no other purpose but to slaughter humans
-sensible abortion rules that protect life when viable and also protect women's health
- support Ukraine against Russian aggression
-support Taiwan but grow economic interests with China
-civil rights for all americans including those in the LGBTQ+ communities

I could go on, but these are all core democratic platform items and they all poll with 65%+ across all American democgraphics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The archetype is Populism.
Ds will follow the same sociopolitical path as the Rs. Different, but the same.

The people vs the elite dynamic is the reality in modern day politics and therefore populism in its truest form may be our best medicine.

In other words, in a government designed to be of the people, by the people, for the people, all other schemes having failed, the Democrats might finally be willing to attempt representing the people.

IF they actually LISTEN to the people and prioritize their general welfare over special interests, they may actually win. On the other hand, if they continue to sneer contemptuously at average voters and try to tell them that the Democrats know what the voters need better than the voters themselves, they might continue to have difficulty, even as bad as Trump/MAGA is. At least the Republicans pretend to listen.

The distribution of wealth and power has become too uneven and the strain of it has society at a breaking point - something’s got to give. The last time there was this much tension between the haves and the have nots, desperate people turned for any solution that offered relief, which led to the rise of both fascist and communist regimes. While they’re typically viewed as opposite poles of the political spectrum, they’re actually just different names for tyranny. Whatever ideology the leaders claimed to seize power, the goal was always power. Once any party had secured their power, the ideology was consigned to window dressing for the government, which was no more interested in the general welfare than the government they had replaced. Right now, the right is already at that place, offering the country dictatorship over a democracy that has been failing the populace. Democrats must be vigilant to remember that the counter to a right wing dictatorship is not a left wing dictatorship, but rather a free country SERVING the will of the people.

I realize Democrats want to remake society into their version of Utopia, and if they can reclaim power and hold unto it, they’ll be able to advance whatever agenda they want. However, people are struggling and need to be given some hope that things can improve for them. Stop dividing voters, and above all, stop alienating them. Who cares if they disagree with you on an issue, as long as they vote to put you in power to do what you want? If they’re considering violating some of their principles (which are as dear to them as yours are to you), you don’t have to insult them. Sometimes I think the Democrats would rather feel smugly superior to voters who voted against them than to win the votes of some who might have incorrect opinions.

The overwhelming majority of Americans support the democrats agenda:
-more jobs
-growing GDP
-international alliances that grow business and opportunity
-capitalism with guardrails that protect clean air, clean water, safe foods and worker exploitation
-affordable healthcare
-sensible gun laws that prevent the mentally ill from owning weapons and limit weapons that have no other purpose but to slaughter humans
-sensible abortion rules that protect life when viable and also protect women's health
- support Ukraine against Russian aggression
-support Taiwan but grow economic interests with China
-civil rights for all americans including those in the LGBTQ+ communities

I could go on, but these are all core democratic platform items and they all poll with 65%+ across all American democgraphics.

The half this list at least isn’t distinguishable from the GOP.