Changes in LACs

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Anonymous wrote:Williams and Amherst have the wow factor. Bowdoin has some appeal but the rest not.

Everything that’s wrong with this board. Thanks for coming!

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Anonymous wrote:The Maine LACs are all on the rise - Colby, Bates, Bowdoin, Midd.

Also, Hamilton is becoming the new Amherst.

Midd is in Vermont and none of those schools are “rising” any different than years prior, other than maybe Colby.

Hamilton is completely different than Amherst and wants its future to be in tech and AI.

Also, can any of the NESCACs really be described as “on the rise?” Are any of them lacking in respect? Top to bottom, they are the standard on which all other SLACs are judged/compared. Obviously not saying those are the “best” schools, but people take shots at Amherst, Williams, Wes, Hamilton, Mid, Colby, etc. on this board for a reason. I don’t see many Bowdoin people, for example, puffing their chests about how they’re better than W&L.
-NESCAC alum, parent & spouse

What a bunch of New England garbage. NESCAC is the standard for mediocrity.

OK, thanks for your input Dennison mom.

Williams mom, but thanks for showing you can't handle an opinion that isn't your own.

Ha ha. OK, sis. Weird flex to say that the NESCACs are the standard for mediocrity and then proudly claim a kid at Williams, what plenty on this board would happily call the quintessential NESCAC. Seems like your convictions weren’t strong enough to insist your kid go to Carleton or Pomona. Or maybe you’re just s-posting and got lost.

Or maybe im smart enough to understand that there's a real delta between Williams and Connecticut college for Christ's sakes. Most of the Nescac is mediocre; there's the best of the best (Bowdoin, Amherst, Williams) and then there's the rest...It's a sports league, not all of us are obsessed.

There is a real delta between Conn College and everyone else but the idea that There are those three and everyone else is just stupid.

If you used test scores as an imperfect proxy here are 4 schools with peak academics there are 4 (5 with Tufts) schools with 'peak' academics which are the three that you named plus Middlebury. All have SAT averages of 1500+

There are 5 schools with scores 1400 - 1500 Hamilton, Wesleyan, Bates, Trinity, and probably Colby

And only one real outlier, Conn College which is still a fine school.

Hamilton is pretty equal too teh top schools academically and Wes and Colby are as well.

This “all 12 SLACs are equal poster” is a bit much. Make the same silly argument about national unis: all top 20 are equal to HYPSM? Occupy yourself in one of those threads; it requires the same, convoluted logic.

By that same logic, I hope you would be just as offended if someone suggested Duke or Northwestern or even Cornell were mediocre because they weren’t quite as bright and shiny as HYPSM. People on this board do love to shit on Cornell. It’s wild.

Thanks for the epiphany. I absolutely agree with this profundity: there is no difference between Cornell and HYPSM.

Are you doing a bit? Not saying Cornel is the same. Just suggesting it’s not a
mediocre school. You must be one of those people who loves the “which schools are elite” threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Williams and Amherst have the wow factor. Bowdoin has some appeal but the rest not.

this ^^ the wow factor is real and influences top students who have options

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Williams and Amherst have the wow factor. Bowdoin has some appeal but the rest not.

Ignorant comment.

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Anonymous wrote:The Maine LACs are all on the rise - Colby, Bates, Bowdoin, Midd.

Also, Hamilton is becoming the new Amherst.

Midd is in Vermont and none of those schools are “rising” any different than years prior, other than maybe Colby.

Hamilton is completely different than Amherst and wants its future to be in tech and AI.

Also, can any of the NESCACs really be described as “on the rise?” Are any of them lacking in respect? Top to bottom, they are the standard on which all other SLACs are judged/compared. Obviously not saying those are the “best” schools, but people take shots at Amherst, Williams, Wes, Hamilton, Mid, Colby, etc. on this board for a reason. I don’t see many Bowdoin people, for example, puffing their chests about how they’re better than W&L.
-NESCAC alum, parent & spouse

What a bunch of New England garbage. NESCAC is the standard for mediocrity.

OK, thanks for your input Dennison mom.

Williams mom, but thanks for showing you can't handle an opinion that isn't your own.

Ha ha. OK, sis. Weird flex to say that the NESCACs are the standard for mediocrity and then proudly claim a kid at Williams, what plenty on this board would happily call the quintessential NESCAC. Seems like your convictions weren’t strong enough to insist your kid go to Carleton or Pomona. Or maybe you’re just s-posting and got lost.

Or maybe im smart enough to understand that there's a real delta between Williams and Connecticut college for Christ's sakes. Most of the Nescac is mediocre; there's the best of the best (Bowdoin, Amherst, Williams) and then there's the rest...It's a sports league, not all of us are obsessed.

There is a real delta between Conn College and everyone else but the idea that There are those three and everyone else is just stupid.

If you used test scores as an imperfect proxy here are 4 schools with peak academics there are 4 (5 with Tufts) schools with 'peak' academics which are the three that you named plus Middlebury. All have SAT averages of 1500+

There are 5 schools with scores 1400 - 1500 Hamilton, Wesleyan, Bates, Trinity, and probably Colby

And only one real outlier, Conn College which is still a fine school.

Hamilton is pretty equal too teh top schools academically and Wes and Colby are as well.

This “all 12 SLACs are equal poster” is a bit much. Make the same silly argument about national unis: all top 20 are equal to HYPSM? Occupy yourself in one of those threads; it requires the same, convoluted logic.

By that same logic, I hope you would be just as offended if someone suggested Duke or Northwestern or even Cornell were mediocre because they weren’t quite as bright and shiny as HYPSM. People on this board do love to shit on Cornell. It’s wild.

Thanks for the epiphany. I absolutely agree with this profundity: there is no difference between Cornell and HYPSM.

There are many differences between Cornell and HYPSM it’s just that academic quality isn’t among them.

[Anonymous]

^Factual. Everyone knows it’s Amherst and Wiliams and the rest who cares. Bigger problem for the rest of the conference is that most kids are not seeking extremely remote, no diversity locations. Add in freezing, long winters with a price tag of 95k a year. Lots of better options.

[Anonymous]

Regarding NESCAC LACs being worth their costs, this Forbes article, "10 Expensive Colleges Worth Every Penny," includes Amherst, Williams and Hamilton:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliesportelli/2017/04/26/10-expensive-colleges-worth-every-penny-2017/

Note that, while this is an older article, Forbes has not revisited the concept since that time.

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8 years old article,

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Anonymous wrote:Williams and Amherst have the wow factor. Bowdoin has some appeal but the rest not.

this ^^ the wow factor is real and influences top students who have options

Every kid applying to college has options, at least if they build their list properly. This is more Ivy+ or bust BS. The sad part is that people with this mindset often consider places like Amherst and Williams just acceptable fallbacks when those REA apps don’t come through. These are “elite” schools, but despite what a PP said, they are not in the company of Harvard and Yale. Those are just different animals and it’s delusional to think otherwise.

[Anonymous]

The best LAC’S for successful outcomes are Williams, Amherst, Holy Cross, Colgate, Davidson, and Bowdoin. Williams and Colgate are Wall Street feeders. Holy Cross USA powerhouse in corporate America with unparalleled success in corporate boardrooms and consumer CEOs. HC is only top LAC which offers accounting degree works well for them. Davidson is a regional play from Richmond to Atlanta.

[Anonymous]

Regarding the above, Holy Cross, for example placed 92nd nationally when analyzed by Career Outcomes:

https://share.google/U1UQo4WcgPJ5QKDcC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best LAC’S for successful outcomes are Williams, Amherst, Holy Cross, Colgate, Davidson, and Bowdoin. Williams and Colgate are Wall Street feeders. Holy Cross USA powerhouse in corporate America with unparalleled success in corporate boardrooms and consumer CEOs. HC is only top LAC which offers accounting degree works well for them. Davidson is a regional play from Richmond to Atlanta.

Holy Cross troll enters the discussion. Middlebury has better finance outcomes than Colgate (and every LAC other than Williams, Amherst, and CMC). Tell me more about Bowdoin's outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No interest in any NESCAC school but imo Middlebury is in a decline from top 10 US News to current tie for 19. Add in application declines and financial deficits what else would one describe Middds current status. Lots of Middlebury grads and or parents are in denial. Amherst and Williams are so far above the rest of the pack. Bowdoin has some appeal but 90-95 k a year for the rest no thanks .

Just this week, S&P assigned Middlebury's bonds a "AA" rating and rated college's outlook as "stable."

https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/-/view/sourceId/101638222

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Reading comprehension is nice attribute. Holy Cross isa powerhouse in corporate America not as much on Wall Street. HC grads on boards of Jet Blue, UHaul, CVS, Costco, Dicks, Home Depot, Burlington and multiple more.

[Anonymous]

Midd boosters are very defensive but can not explain away current problems at the school. Hiring a new President is a start. As others have pointed out Midd has dropped to tie for 19th in US News, application decline and budget deficit not signs of a hot school like Duke or Vandy. More comparable to fine school like Colgate.