Changes in LACs

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Anonymous wrote:and penn state has an even bigger alumni group than all of them! but the correlation between size of alumni group and the quality of the help is meaningless. The only other SLAC - other than Williams and Amherst - with an alumni group that actually gets kids jobs, is the much maligned (on this site) W&L. Swarthmore kids don’t typically enjoy their 4 years, and happy to cut ties from what I’ve seen. Swarthmore is a tough 4 years and academics arguably the best and most intense of all save UChicago, but that doesn’t necessarily lead to a fun 4 years

The academics is hard but totally manageable (my kid had high rigor classes in HS, and had no problems adjusting to Swat). Allows for activities/campus jobs and time to do fun stuff too. The learning environment is stimulating, the facilities and campus top-notch, professors are by and large very good. My kid is having a wonderful experience at Swarthmore.

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When considered by faculty scholarship in economics, notable departments include those at Williams, Wellesley, Claremont McKenna, Middlebury, Richmond, Colgate, Hamilton and Amherst.

Economics rankings: US Economics Departments at Liberal Arts Colleges | IDEAS/RePEc https://share.google/rgS4q36TF0rW5uSAD

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Anonymous wrote:and penn state has an even bigger alumni group than all of them! but the correlation between size of alumni group and the quality of the help is meaningless. The only other SLAC - other than Williams and Amherst - with an alumni group that actually gets kids jobs, is the much maligned (on this site) W&L. Swarthmore kids don’t typically enjoy their 4 years, and happy to cut ties from what I’ve seen. Swarthmore is a tough 4 years and academics arguably the best and most intense of all save UChicago, but that doesn’t necessarily lead to a fun 4 years

The academics is hard but totally manageable (my kid had high rigor classes in HS, and had no problems adjusting to Swat). Allows for activities/campus jobs and time to do fun stuff too. The learning environment is stimulating, the facilities and campus top-notch, professors are by and large very good. My kid is having a wonderful experience at Swarthmore.

of course there are exceptions like your kid, but williams is much more fun than swarthmore

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Anonymous wrote:and penn state has an even bigger alumni group than all of them! but the correlation between size of alumni group and the quality of the help is meaningless. The only other SLAC - other than Williams and Amherst - with an alumni group that actually gets kids jobs, is the much maligned (on this site) W&L. Swarthmore kids don’t typically enjoy their 4 years, and happy to cut ties from what I’ve seen. Swarthmore is a tough 4 years and academics arguably the best and most intense of all save UChicago, but that doesn’t necessarily lead to a fun 4 years

The academics is hard but totally manageable (my kid had high rigor classes in HS, and had no problems adjusting to Swat). Allows for activities/campus jobs and time to do fun stuff too. The learning environment is stimulating, the facilities and campus top-notch, professors are by and large very good. My kid is having a wonderful experience at Swarthmore.

of course there are exceptions like your kid, but williams is much more fun than swarthmore

I have a kid at Swat. It’s not really for the play hard crowd. She has fun on her own terms, but not the kind of fun DH and I had.

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

Fun fact, there's been more than one CEO! Weinberg was CEO of Goldman, and then he started his own asset management firm with Joseph Perella (a Lehigh grad). Funny thing, companies have history.

Funny thing— Peter Weinberg was never CEO of Goldman Sachs. He was CEO of a subsidiary, GSI. Nice try, though.

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

Fun fact, there's been more than one CEO! Weinberg was CEO of Goldman, and then he started his own asset management firm with Joseph Perella (a Lehigh grad). Funny thing, companies have history.

Funny thing— Peter Weinberg was never CEO of Goldman Sachs. He was CEO of a subsidiary, GSI. Nice try, though.

Shucks you got em! Now there’s no other successful alum- not like that person alone is successful or anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and penn state has an even bigger alumni group than all of them! but the correlation between size of alumni group and the quality of the help is meaningless. The only other SLAC - other than Williams and Amherst - with an alumni group that actually gets kids jobs, is the much maligned (on this site) W&L. Swarthmore kids don’t typically enjoy their 4 years, and happy to cut ties from what I’ve seen. Swarthmore is a tough 4 years and academics arguably the best and most intense of all save UChicago, but that doesn’t necessarily lead to a fun 4 years

The academics is hard but totally manageable (my kid had high rigor classes in HS, and had no problems adjusting to Swat). Allows for activities/campus jobs and time to do fun stuff too. The learning environment is stimulating, the facilities and campus top-notch, professors are by and large very good. My kid is having a wonderful experience at Swarthmore.

of course there are exceptions like your kid, but williams is much more fun than swarthmore

Lmao, no it isn’t. There’s nothing at all to do in Williamstown other than to freeze and listen to a lecturer. So much more around suburban Philly, without even getting into Philly itself. Williams is a tough grind also, because the students are on a little remote school with nothing else to pass the time.

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

Fun fact, there's been more than one CEO! Weinberg was CEO of Goldman, and then he started his own asset management firm with Joseph Perella (a Lehigh grad). Funny thing, companies have history.

Funny thing— Peter Weinberg was never CEO of Goldman Sachs. He was CEO of a subsidiary, GSI. Nice try, though.

Shucks you got em! Now there’s no other successful alum- not like that person alone is successful or anything

A snarky reply deserves a snarky reply.

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Anonymous wrote:and penn state has an even bigger alumni group than all of them! but the correlation between size of alumni group and the quality of the help is meaningless. The only other SLAC - other than Williams and Amherst - with an alumni group that actually gets kids jobs, is the much maligned (on this site) W&L. Swarthmore kids don’t typically enjoy their 4 years, and happy to cut ties from what I’ve seen. Swarthmore is a tough 4 years and academics arguably the best and most intense of all save UChicago, but that doesn’t necessarily lead to a fun 4 years

The academics is hard but totally manageable (my kid had high rigor classes in HS, and had no problems adjusting to Swat). Allows for activities/campus jobs and time to do fun stuff too. The learning environment is stimulating, the facilities and campus top-notch, professors are by and large very good. My kid is having a wonderful experience at Swarthmore.

of course there are exceptions like your kid, but williams is much more fun than swarthmore

Lmao, no it isn’t. There’s nothing at all to do in Williamstown other than to freeze and listen to a lecturer. So much more around suburban Philly, without even getting into Philly itself. Williams is a tough grind also, because the students are on a little remote school with nothing else to pass the time.

I luv swarthmore, but don’t think this is an argument you will win :) wonderful school but “fun” is not in the vocabulary for 4 years. Can have fun after your first million before 30..

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

Fun fact, there's been more than one CEO! Weinberg was CEO of Goldman, and then he started his own asset management firm with Joseph Perella (a Lehigh grad). Funny thing, companies have history.

Funny thing— Peter Weinberg was never CEO of Goldman Sachs. He was CEO of a subsidiary, GSI. Nice try, though.

Shucks you got em! Now there’s no other successful alum- not like that person alone is successful or anything

A snarky reply deserves a snarky reply.

Oh I didn't know you were a child. Now that I know that I understand that it was a waste of time for us to converse on these matters. No adult should be this sensitive.

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

Fun fact, there's been more than one CEO! Weinberg was CEO of Goldman, and then he started his own asset management firm with Joseph Perella (a Lehigh grad). Funny thing, companies have history.

Funny thing— Peter Weinberg was never CEO of Goldman Sachs. He was CEO of a subsidiary, GSI. Nice try, though.

Shucks you got em! Now there’s no other successful alum- not like that person alone is successful or anything

A snarky reply deserves a snarky reply.

Oh I didn't know you were a child. Now that I know that I understand that it was a waste of time for us to converse on these matters. No adult should be this sensitive.

“…converse on these matters.” lol. Stop taking yourself so seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Midd boosters are very defensive but can not explain away current problems at the school. Hiring a new President is a start. As others have pointed out Midd has dropped to tie for 19th in US News, application decline and budget deficit not signs of a hot school like Duke or Vandy. More comparable to fine school like Colgate.

It’ you again pretending to be someone else because you’re not getting traction as usual. Someone at 10:08 put a fork in your finances claim so you need to pivot. Others haven’t pointed anything out about app drops because they are tiny and still up massively over the last 5 years. The budget deficit is tiny relative to the endowment and could be closed by simply reducing international financial aid to the same level as Williams. You’ll try over enrollment next but people in previous posts have shown the numbers that it happened all in one year and they are now graduated. You’ll then move on to “they are adding people to cover the deficit but the reality is that their new dorm is 50 beds bigger than the one it replaced and they have been very open about adding 50-75 additional students because they have now have the room and this number is nor larger than typical because with more kids going abroad each year the on campus population will remain stable.

Keep on trying little tool.

Please stop, pro-Midd troll. On behalf of Midd, stop saying it increased enrollment only one year; stop saying they have added only 50; and stop saying that they have no financial issues. These are lies. You sound unhinged, particularly when all of this is common knowledge for anyone who knows Midd. If you really want to be pro-Midd, say something positive about the school so the focus is not on denial.

Constantly repeating your lies will not make them true. People constantly point you to the actual data sources such as

https://www.middlebury.edu/assessment-institutional-research/institutional-data/middlebury-college

showing the actual enrollment over the past 10 years (and the one year of over enrollment) and highlighting that going to between 2600 and 2650 is an increase of 30-70 or so students which is happening coincident with a new dorm opening this year yet you persist. We point out that Middlebury has a AA bond rating yet you blather about non-existent ‘financial problems’. We correct you with fact yet you continue to lie.

You mean the non-existent financial problems the school’s own leadership has admitted to?

This has been pointed out to you in multiple threads by about a dozen different posters, and yet here you still are.

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This is the most tedious discussion I've ever read on this forum. Everyone involved is a total geed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the most tedious discussion I've ever read on this forum. Everyone involved is a total geed.

Lol +1

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Anonymous wrote:Midd boosters are very defensive but can not explain away current problems at the school. Hiring a new President is a start. As others have pointed out Midd has dropped to tie for 19th in US News, application decline and budget deficit not signs of a hot school like Duke or Vandy. More comparable to fine school like Colgate.

It’ you again pretending to be someone else because you’re not getting traction as usual. Someone at 10:08 put a fork in your finances claim so you need to pivot. Others haven’t pointed anything out about app drops because they are tiny and still up massively over the last 5 years. The budget deficit is tiny relative to the endowment and could be closed by simply reducing international financial aid to the same level as Williams. You’ll try over enrollment next but people in previous posts have shown the numbers that it happened all in one year and they are now graduated. You’ll then move on to “they are adding people to cover the deficit but the reality is that their new dorm is 50 beds bigger than the one it replaced and they have been very open about adding 50-75 additional students because they have now have the room and this number is nor larger than typical because with more kids going abroad each year the on campus population will remain stable.

Keep on trying little tool.

Please stop, pro-Midd troll. On behalf of Midd, stop saying it increased enrollment only one year; stop saying they have added only 50; and stop saying that they have no financial issues. These are lies. You sound unhinged, particularly when all of this is common knowledge for anyone who knows Midd. If you really want to be pro-Midd, say something positive about the school so the focus is not on denial.

Constantly repeating your lies will not make them true. People constantly point you to the actual data sources such as

https://www.middlebury.edu/assessment-institutional-research/institutional-data/middlebury-college

showing the actual enrollment over the past 10 years (and the one year of over enrollment) and highlighting that going to between 2600 and 2650 is an increase of 30-70 or so students which is happening coincident with a new dorm opening this year yet you persist. We point out that Middlebury has a AA bond rating yet you blather about non-existent ‘financial problems’. We correct you with fact yet you continue to lie.

You mean the non-existent financial problems the school’s own leadership has admitted to?

This has been pointed out to you in multiple threads by about a dozen different posters, and yet here you still are.

Misdirection and gaslighting, another swing and a miss.