80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

[Anonymous]

Online dating forces you to pick a partner based on looks. For men this is natural, they already mostly did this prior to apps, since men are more visual. Women tend to evaluate guys based on multiple factors including looks but the apps aren’t able to convey those other factors very well (personality, charm, how he carries himself, class, income, etc). The apps force everyone to be superficial and this screws everything up because when women are in the position of evaluating a man solely on looks, they tend to find a much narrower percentage of the population acceptable. While men do prioritize looks, they’re more forgiving than women.

There are many women who can be won over during in person interaction who would never give you a second thought on the apps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

All these men calling women gold diggers etc are not going to want to pay a woman to rent her womb.

More to the point, the lower 80% of men couldn’t hope to afford it. Surrogacy+ egg donation? $500,000+

More like $150-$200K instead of $500K.

When we can automate the gestational carrier aspect, the price will start to drop as quickly as the technology improves.

$150-$200k is for stable families not single dads by choice. Certainly not single dads who despise and disdain women. Very few surrogates will be willing to entertain these clients and so they will pay a premium.

[Anonymous]

I'm an older man and I swipe right on less than 20% of the women I see on dating apps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

Lol!! Like a man would want to raise kids on his own!! Get out of here with this stupidity.

Alyssa Liu’s (world champion figure skater) dad raised 5 kids single. He had them via a surrogate.

[Anonymous]

Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

Lol!! Like a man would want to raise kids on his own!! Get out of here with this stupidity.

Alyssa Liu’s (world champion figure skater) dad raised 5 kids single. He had them via a surrogate.

The exception that proves the rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Until men can grow children inside of them, a loser man and a loser women are not equals. A woman can claim she brings her body to grow and birth children to the table. What does a loser man bring? It takes 5 minutes to release sperm. And the 20% of men can provide sperm for all women. The same cannot be said of 20% of women having children for all men.

So men have to try harder to be counterparts to "undesirable" women.

At this moment, it is true that women only need a donor to have a child. However, even now, a man can pay a woman for her role as an egg and womb donor.

How long will it be before babies can be created and housed in artificial wombs? 50 years? More likely, about 20 years.

Once there is true reproductive freedom (i.e., men do not need women to have children), the world will change in ways it never has before.

Lol!! Like a man would want to raise kids on his own!! Get out of here with this stupidity.

Alyssa Liu’s (world champion figure skater) dad raised 5 kids single. He had them via a surrogate.

The exception that proves the rule.

People that bring up one extreme outlier against overwhelming data and pattern regognition have to be the dumbest posters on this site. It happens all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

The problem with this theory is that women must have been the weaker sex to let “surviving societies” aka men do this to them. So I don’t believe it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a former Division I athlete now working in finance, I’ve found that I often attract attention from women. This was also true during college, where it wasn’t uncommon for multiple women to be interested in the same guy. Men in my position tend to have a lot of options when it comes to dating.

Division I athlete so I'll assume you have a good physique probably with a preferred height. And you work in finance..OMG breaking news lol.

You have attributes that benefit you and that's nothing special.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What shocks me most is the percentage of men under 25 who have never had sex or who have not had sex for over year. I find it interesting that women under 25 are having far more sex than men under 25. Clearly these women are sleeping with the same men. Do they know if? Of course they do. But they rather meet their sexual needs by sleeping with men they know are sleeping around than no sex at all.

When I first opened my OLD profiles, it had my age range set down to 21, so I kept getting messages from men under 25.

They have zero game. Even the hot ones. Every day was just another variation of "hi". Never bothered to get to know me, never bothered to ask me out.

One 24yo *did* manage to ask me out, I said yes. Leading up to the date, he started implying we would be sleeping together. I said, hey, this is a first date, plan on us just getting to know each other. He cancelled after that.

That's why they're not having sex. It's because they have no idea how to interact with and treat a woman.

I don't know if it's true because I am not a woman, but I heard that if a woman truly likes a guy he can be a guy with "RED FLAGS" tattooed on his forehead and they will still want him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

Men should work on being better and more appealing. And I'm not talking looks, which is not everything.

Because doing the work to develop the attributes to attract women that women say they want makes them a simp, and god forbid they be a simp, they would rather be sexless and complain, than be a simp.

Almost as bad as being a pick me, right ladies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What shocks me most is the percentage of men under 25 who have never had sex or who have not had sex for over year. I find it interesting that women under 25 are having far more sex than men under 25. Clearly these women are sleeping with the same men. Do they know if? Of course they do. But they rather meet their sexual needs by sleeping with men they know are sleeping around than no sex at all.

There is a disproportionate amount of failure to launch men to women in the younger generation. This stat doesn’t surprise me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't stop it. Women evolved to maximize their reproductive opportunities because they spend 9 months carrying the child and then a period breastfeeding.

Surviving societies "solved" this problem by taking rights away from women and making them dependent on men. Couple economic empowerment with modern birth control, and you get the status quo.

This doesn't get fixed until an old school solution is imposed on women, and that's not happening anytime soon. Women understandably love the status quo. Look how many here prefer being alone to being stuck with a manchild. But make no mistake, as we are seeing in places ranging from Italy to Korea, this status quo won't last because it doesn't replace itself.

The future belongs to whoever forces women to have babies. Right now, that's not the West or East.

The problem with this theory is that women must have been the weaker sex to let “surviving societies” aka men do this to them. So I don’t believe it.

DP.

Are you saying you don’t believe that women are weaker than men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What shocks me most is the percentage of men under 25 who have never had sex or who have not had sex for over year. I find it interesting that women under 25 are having far more sex than men under 25. Clearly these women are sleeping with the same men. Do they know if? Of course they do. But they rather meet their sexual needs by sleeping with men they know are sleeping around than no sex at all.

When I first opened my OLD profiles, it had my age range set down to 21, so I kept getting messages from men under 25.

They have zero game. Even the hot ones. Every day was just another variation of "hi". Never bothered to get to know me, never bothered to ask me out.

One 24yo *did* manage to ask me out, I said yes. Leading up to the date, he started implying we would be sleeping together. I said, hey, this is a first date, plan on us just getting to know each other. He cancelled after that.

That's why they're not having sex. It's because they have no idea how to interact with and treat a woman.

I don't know if it's true because I am not a woman, but I heard that if a woman truly likes a guy he can be a guy with "RED FLAGS" tattooed on his forehead and they will still want him.

Maybe in person where you can get initial physical chemistry, but not online. If you can’t put some effort into conversation and asking someone out, OLD isn’t for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men don’t know what women find attractive. All this 6/6/6 stuff is from men. If you look around, you see women dating and married to all sorts of men. Women will literally tell men what they’re into and men will call them liars. The men who listen to this Tate stuff are so dumb. Single men giving other single men on how to be attractive to? Other single men. They want you single and sad so you keep buying their grift.

Look up Hugh Jackman advertising to men vs women. Totally different.

Ding!

Thank you for posting the pic! This is exactly it. Men only see the left and think that’s what women want. No, that’s what men want. If they started actually listening to women they’d be much further ahead.