Georgia's anti-abortion law forcing brain-dead woman to remain on life support

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Anonymous wrote:Another horrific consequence of abortion bans. Plus this poor fetus will not likely survive. This is truly disgusting.

https://apnews.com/article/pregnant-woman-brain-dead-abortion-ban-georgia-a85a5906e5b2c4889525f2300c441745

According to at least one reputable previous study, 27 out of 35 babies delivered survived and were healthy and normal.

Where are you finding that the baby is statistically unlikely to survive?

The baby is not healthy dumbass. It has water on the brain, is blind, and has spent the majority of it's gestation inside a dead body being kept alive artificially.

You have no reputable sources or evidence to support your claims that the baby is blind or not healthy.

You are probably the same psychopath who is jonesing to pull the plug on their own ill, hospitalized family member.

Nurse here. And you are probably the family member who insists “everything be done” on a family member who is being barely kept alive by machines. Because it’s “God’s will.” Never mind God is calling said family member home and we just keep torturing them until he/she finally dies in an ICU bed.

I am an ICU nurse. Over 10 years.

Democrats keep making shit up, like that the baby is blind and the woman’s mom wants to take her off life support.

When someone repeatedly lies, they are bad.

No one knows if the child is disabled, and no one in the family has indicated that they wish to take the mother off life support.

Why are you accusing Dems of making stuff up? The family had no say on the care of this patient.
https://apnews.com/article/pregnant-woman-brain-dead-abortion-ban-georgia-80b463f0f398d5a9c62f8888739025cb

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

NP- And yet on every stand alone ballot initiative, the people voted for women to have abortion rights, including Ruby red states such as Kansas, Missouri, Arizona and Montana

Sure. But they don’t care enough about it to elect politicians based on abortion rights.

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

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Anonymous wrote:Another horrific consequence of abortion bans. Plus this poor fetus will not likely survive. This is truly disgusting.

https://apnews.com/article/pregnant-woman-brain-dead-abortion-ban-georgia-a85a5906e5b2c4889525f2300c441745

According to at least one reputable previous study, 27 out of 35 babies delivered survived and were healthy and normal.

Where are you finding that the baby is statistically unlikely to survive?

The baby is not healthy dumbass. It has water on the brain, is blind, and has spent the majority of it's gestation inside a dead body being kept alive artificially.

You have no reputable sources or evidence to support your claims that the baby is blind or not healthy.

You are probably the same psychopath who is jonesing to pull the plug on their own ill, hospitalized family member.

Nurse here. And you are probably the family member who insists “everything be done” on a family member who is being barely kept alive by machines. Because it’s “God’s will.” Never mind God is calling said family member home and we just keep torturing them until he/she finally dies in an ICU bed.

I am an ICU nurse. Over 10 years.

Democrats keep making shit up, like that the baby is blind and the woman’s mom wants to take her off life support.

When someone repeatedly lies, they are bad.

No one knows if the child is disabled, and no one in the family has indicated that they wish to take the mother off life support.

Sure ok

A 2021 review that Berghella co-authored scoured medical literature going back decades for cases in which doctors declared a woman brain-dead and aimed to prolong her pregnancy. It found 35.

Of those, 27 resulted in a live birth, the majority either immediately declared healthy or with normal follow-up tests.

Newkirk told WXIA that doctors told the family that the fetus has fluid on the brain and that they’re concerned about his health.

“She’s pregnant with my grandson. But he may be blind, may not be able to walk, may not survive once he’s born,” Newkirk said. She has not said whether the family wants Smith removed from life support.

From the op’s link. People keep lying about every aspect of this case, and some absolute gems keep cursing other posters and spouting about personally pulling the plug on their own family members…what a bunch of clowns.

Were any of those cases at 9 weeks?

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

The relatives have been quoted as saying that the fetus is not doing well.

The only other cases where this has gone on so long involved constant infections for the mother and one high profile one, a severely deformed fetus.

To believe you can easily keep a brain dead body alive for months doing some thing as physiologically complex as gestation is a fantasy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Marlise_Mu%C3%B1oz

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

The relatives have been quoted as saying that the fetus is not doing well.

The only other cases where this has gone on so long involved constant infections for the mother and one high profile one, a severely deformed fetus.

To believe you can easily keep a brain dead body alive for months doing some thing as physiologically complex as gestation is a fantasy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Marlise_Mu%C3%B1oz

Provide a link to the relatives saying the baby “isn’t doing well.”

You can’t, because you are a liar.

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

Pp won’t provide any links from reputable news sources to support her claims…because she and all the other ghouls are LYING.

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

Pp won’t provide any links from reputable news sources to support her claims…because she and all the other ghouls are LYING.

DP. Google took me 2 minutes.

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/16/nx-s1-5400266/georgia-brain-dead-fetus-abortion-ban-hospital

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

The relatives have been quoted as saying that the fetus is not doing well.

The only other cases where this has gone on so long involved constant infections for the mother and one high profile one, a severely deformed fetus.

To believe you can easily keep a brain dead body alive for months doing some thing as physiologically complex as gestation is a fantasy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Marlise_Mu%C3%B1oz

Provide a link to the relatives saying the baby “isn’t doing well.”

You can’t, because you are a liar.

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/16/nx-s1-5400266/georgia-brain-dead-fetus-abortion-ban-hospital

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Nothing in those articles are different than the one op posted.

Cut and paste the information you are using from the article.

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Anonymous wrote:These posters are the (fortunately rare) “celebrate your abortion!” crowd. They are not representative of nearly all of the US.

Not a single person said that.

If you don’t get why it is ghoulish to keep a woman’s dead body alive to gestate a likely severely disabled child (who will not be supported by the lawmakers who forced this) … don’t know what to say.

Most Americans who hear this story, aside from abortion fanatics, will believe that the mother would have done anything she could to keep her baby alive. They just are not going to see this as something the mother would not have wanted, because most mothers would do anything to protect their babies.

DCUM is an extreme outlier on abortion sentiment and has historically been unable to self-comprehend that fact.

From 9 weeks???? No way. That is your warped assumption. Also she was an RN so even less likely she would choose this, medical professionals are leas likely to choose extreme long term interventions, especially when those interventions harm the developing fetus.

-RN

Look, I don’t know what to tell you. You are just wrong and out of touch.

Ah well that settles it.

Are you taking the position that DCUM has been consistently in line with the position of most American voters when it comes to abortion? The shock and gnashing of teeth after the last election—which was entirely predictable outside the DCUM bubble—shows how wrong you are.

Most voters don’t view abortion and abortion rights the same way DCUM does. They are uncomfortable with it at best. I am deeply skeptical that DCUMs general posture on this case is anything other than a far extreme.

you are so out of touch with current national polling on abortion opinion, it is laughable. JFC, google is your friend.

Odd. We were confidently told repeatedly here, in the weeks leading up to the election, that DCUM’s position on abortion was correct, reflected by the voters, and would easily decide the election for Harris.

You think everyone who voted for Trump is also anti abortion for major medical events? Ok.

But sure ignore polling.

Can you show me the polling that shows that most Americans disagree with what has happened here, and would want her to be allowed to die?

Look, I am not actually in support of this. I think, in this case, her family has expressed her wishes, and she should be allowed to pass, given the age of the fetus in particular. But I recognize that it’s not at all clear that most Americans feel the same way, and in fact many of them would take the position that the brain dead mother would in fact want whatever chance at life her baby could get. This is what I’m frustrated about, because DCUM is so far off the mainstream and is continually surprised by that where it matters (elections). I am not at all clear that most Americans think anything wrong has happened here at all, and certainly do not view this in the apocalyptic language of DCUM (“biological material,” “incubator,” etc.).

I would like the US to return to “safe, legal, and rare,” but I don’t think we will ever get there at this rate, because the opposition sounds so outright crazy.

the fact is, this is such a ghoulish and unusual circumstance that most Americans have no correct frame of reference. If you envision it as the mom peacefully on a respirator for two weeks until the viable baby reaches 33 weeks, then sure. But this case is keeping the mother’s body alive through repeated infections, limbs seizing up, pressure sores, to gestate a severely disabled fetus.

How do you know this as fact? Has it been verified?

Pp won’t provide any links from reputable news sources to support her claims…because she and all the other ghouls are LYING.

DP. Google took me 2 minutes.

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/16/nx-s1-5400266/georgia-brain-dead-fetus-abortion-ban-hospital

You just posted a link with the same information included in op’s associated press link.

Liar.

You all are a bunch of liars.

[Anonymous]

“It’s torture for me,” she said. “I see my daughter breathing, but she’s not there.”

“It should have been left up to the family,” Newkirk said, telling the station that doctors informed the family they are legally not allowed to consider any other options."

“I’m not saying that we would have chose to terminate her pregnancy, but what I’m saying is, we should have had a choice,” she said."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna207002

[Anonymous]

Lies told thus far in this thread about this case:

baby is blind: no facts, evidence, links
family wants mother taken off life support: no facts, evidence, links
baby is disabled: no facts, evidence, links

This is the only blurb published by multiple news sources:


“Smith's family, including her five-year-old son, still visit her in the hospital.

Newkirk told WXIA that doctors told the family that the fetus has fluid on the brain and that they're concerned about his health.

"She's pregnant with my grandson. But he may be blind, may not be able to walk, may not survive once he's born," Newkirk said. She has not said whether the family wants Smith removed from life support.”

But the democrats here take short breaks from calling Trump/republicans amoral liars in other threads to lie in this thread.

Lie about an unborn baby. Let that sink in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“It’s torture for me,” she said. “I see my daughter breathing, but she’s not there.”

“It should have been left up to the family,” Newkirk said, telling the station that doctors informed the family they are legally not allowed to consider any other options."

“I’m not saying that we would have chose to terminate her pregnancy, but what I’m saying is, we should have had a choice,” she said."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna207002

Of course her family is upset- their loved one is dead.

Nobody is saying they aren’t sad. Where are you seeing posters say that her family isn’t sad and distressed?

[Anonymous]

“I’m not saying that we would have chose to terminate her pregnancy, but what I’m saying is, we should have had a choice,” she said."

So the family doesn’t want to terminate the pregnancy. Why does dcum want to do so?