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Anonymous
I’d like to know how much MCPS is spending on this lawsuit (taxpayer dollars) and how they spent on these books as well as the trainings that went along with them.
Anonymous
This was the main reason I left MCPS. My last year teaching they made rounds to make sure we read the book. No way was I reading these books to 1st graders. It stayed in my closet never to be seen.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Your dishonest framing of the narrative and this issue isn't going to work. What people are calling "sick" and "disgusting" is the manipulative agenda of the LGBTQ activists to use schools to indoctrinate children into aligning with their preferred worldview.

1. People don't have a problem with LGBTQ characters being represented in literature in school. Most MCPS parents were fine with LGBTQ content at the secondary level. There is less acceptance at the elementary level, where many parents think it's too soon to introduce kids to complex and unsettled debates about gender identity and sexuality.

2. The books that caused an uproar were NOT innocuous. They pushed controversial ideologies (such as A Boy Named Penelope) and uncomfortably adult language (Pride Puppy). These were not normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters. Their philosophies on gender identity and sexuality were central to the narrative and pushed an ideological point of view. If you can't admit that, then we can't have an honest debate about the issue.
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Anonymous wrote:This was the main reason I left MCPS. My last year teaching they made rounds to make sure we read the book. No way was I reading these books to 1st graders. It stayed in my closet never to be seen.


See and this is another lie that MCPS is trying to tell. That they made it an "option" for teachers to teach. It's not true. They definitely forced teachers to read and instruct with these books. Older, veteran teachers might have had the political clout and confidence to resist this, but younger teachers folded and caved.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Your dishonest framing of the narrative and this issue isn't going to work. What people are calling "sick" and "disgusting" is the manipulative agenda of the LGBTQ activists to use schools to indoctrinate children into aligning with their preferred worldview.

1. People don't have a problem with LGBTQ characters being represented in literature in school. Most MCPS parents were fine with LGBTQ content at the secondary level. There is less acceptance at the elementary level, where many parents think it's too soon to introduce kids to complex and unsettled debates about gender identity and sexuality.

2. The books that caused an uproar were NOT innocuous. They pushed controversial ideologies (such as A Boy Named Penelope) and uncomfortably adult language (Pride Puppy). These were not normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters. Their philosophies on gender identity and sexuality were central to the narrative and pushed an ideological point of view. If you can't admit that, then we can't have an honest debate about the issue.


I think you're kidding yourself if you think supposed "normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters" would have been welcomed by these families alleging their freedom of religion has been violated.
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Anonymous wrote:Not only did MCPS push this, members of the County Council wrote letters in support of it (and are now running trying to keep their jobs or get promoted to County Executive). This will cost MoCo millions and yet the council will just pass it along to us taxpayers. They need to be fired as well!


No the opt out will cost millions.

You guys just make things up constantly.


If the opt out will cost millions, then the reality is likely most people would like to opt out. That should signal administration that these books should not be allowed in elementary schools. Certainly, public libraries can carry these books and parents can op in with these books at home.


But even if MCPS reverses course and removes these particular books, this still opens up the floodgates for any parent to ask to opt out of whatever else they claim goes against their religion. It will become a huge time suck for teachers and staff, and yes, will cost millions.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Your dishonest framing of the narrative and this issue isn't going to work. What people are calling "sick" and "disgusting" is the manipulative agenda of the LGBTQ activists to use schools to indoctrinate children into aligning with their preferred worldview.

1. People don't have a problem with LGBTQ characters being represented in literature in school. Most MCPS parents were fine with LGBTQ content at the secondary level. There is less acceptance at the elementary level, where many parents think it's too soon to introduce kids to complex and unsettled debates about gender identity and sexuality.

2. The books that caused an uproar were NOT innocuous. They pushed controversial ideologies (such as A Boy Named Penelope) and uncomfortably adult language (Pride Puppy). These were not normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters. Their philosophies on gender identity and sexuality were central to the narrative and pushed an ideological point of view. If you can't admit that, then we can't have an honest debate about the issue.


I think you're kidding yourself if you think supposed "normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters" would have been welcomed by these families alleging their freedom of religion has been violated.
Elementary school is not the battleground for this. Leave it to a sex ed class.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Your dishonest framing of the narrative and this issue isn't going to work. What people are calling "sick" and "disgusting" is the manipulative agenda of the LGBTQ activists to use schools to indoctrinate children into aligning with their preferred worldview.

1. People don't have a problem with LGBTQ characters being represented in literature in school. Most MCPS parents were fine with LGBTQ content at the secondary level. There is less acceptance at the elementary level, where many parents think it's too soon to introduce kids to complex and unsettled debates about gender identity and sexuality.

2. The books that caused an uproar were NOT innocuous. They pushed controversial ideologies (such as A Boy Named Penelope) and uncomfortably adult language (Pride Puppy). These were not normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters. Their philosophies on gender identity and sexuality were central to the narrative and pushed an ideological point of view. If you can't admit that, then we can't have an honest debate about the issue.


I think you're kidding yourself if you think supposed "normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters" would have been welcomed by these families alleging their freedom of religion has been violated.


DP .That’s where you’re wrong. I’m Christian and I have no problem with my children reading stories that feature LGBTQ characters. It’s about what’s age appropriate, however, and how the content is being covered. MCPS got this one wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Your dishonest framing of the narrative and this issue isn't going to work. What people are calling "sick" and "disgusting" is the manipulative agenda of the LGBTQ activists to use schools to indoctrinate children into aligning with their preferred worldview.

1. People don't have a problem with LGBTQ characters being represented in literature in school. Most MCPS parents were fine with LGBTQ content at the secondary level. There is less acceptance at the elementary level, where many parents think it's too soon to introduce kids to complex and unsettled debates about gender identity and sexuality.

2. The books that caused an uproar were NOT innocuous. They pushed controversial ideologies (such as A Boy Named Penelope) and uncomfortably adult language (Pride Puppy). These were not normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters. Their philosophies on gender identity and sexuality were central to the narrative and pushed an ideological point of view. If you can't admit that, then we can't have an honest debate about the issue.


I think you're kidding yourself if you think supposed "normal stories that happened to feature LGBTQ characters" would have been welcomed by these families alleging their freedom of religion has been violated.


DP .That’s where you’re wrong. I’m Christian and I have no problem with my children reading stories that feature LGBTQ characters. It’s about what’s age appropriate, however, and how the content is being covered. MCPS got this one wrong.


Then how is it a violation of freedom of religion?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know how much MCPS is spending on this lawsuit (taxpayer dollars) and how they spent on these books as well as the trainings that went along with them.


+1

As a taxpayer I concerned about spending hard earned money on political agenda of this LGBTQ.


Anonymous
MCPS higher up has been highjacked by LGBTQ lobby.

Entire upper management should be fired for using elementary school kid for pushing their agenda and wasting tax payers money.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is sick.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Yah, 5 year old gay and tans kids? It's just disgusting that this gay, trans, sex parade idea gets pushed into 5 years old elementary school kids. Keep this for high school.

We had one Gay parent pushing their kid for this as early as K in Richard Montomery cluster( Bell Elementary). Now the same parent wanted everyone else to normalize the idea that 5 years old should be thinking about Gay, trans etc.

It's just sick. Trying to indoctrinate 5 years old kids for this is not helping any kid, it's destoying the life. I felt so sorry that little kid.

It's one thing to realize your sexual orientation when you grow up. But totally another to be indoctrinated by LGBTQ lobby in elementary school and have your life destroyed. Worse it's done by their own parents.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS higher up has been highjacked by LGBTQ lobby.

Entire upper management should be fired for using elementary school kid for pushing their agenda and wasting tax payers money.


Cleaning MCPS upper management is necessary. Using education money for this should be unacceptable for anyone. It's really amazing that something like this went to supreme court.

Entire MCPS board and upper management is incompetent. They should be held accountable. Some one should lose thier job here.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Yah, 5 year old gay and tans kids? It's just disgusting that this gay, trans, sex parade idea gets pushed into 5 years old elementary school kids. Keep this for high school.

We had one Gay parent pushing their kid for this as early as K in Richard Montomery cluster( Bell Elementary). Now the same parent wanted everyone else to normalize the idea that 5 years old should be thinking about Gay, trans etc.

It's just sick. Trying to indoctrinate 5 years old kids for this is not helping any kid, it's destoying the life. I felt so sorry that little kid.

It's one thing to realize your sexual orientation when you grow up. But totally another to be indoctrinated by LGBTQ lobby in elementary school and have your life destroyed. Worse it's done by their own parents.



Often it’s the parents pushing it at that age.
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