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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never once seen an example of a book that was actually being read in class that was actually offensive. The examples they have in the lawsuit seemed to be books that were on lists to possibly be read but no one ever seemed to say “yes my kids second grade teacher is reading this.”
It just seems like a huge non issue.


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Not one of these books was ever used in the classroom

The people are lying. They don't even have kids in public school. This lawsuit is absurd.

SCOTUS will give them this win God help all of us. It is not going to end well. UGH


When this first started, teachers at our elementary school were required to read one book. Each grade level team had to choose the same book. Parents were allowed to opt out, and we let parents know the date the book would be read. This directive came from central office. Later that school year, MCPS sent a letter stating that parents could no longer opt out. Sets of these books were given to schools the following school year, along with a detailed training script for staff developers to read verbatim for staff training. Book sets were placed in the bookroom or classrooms, and the books were suddenly part of the ELA curriculum. Our ELA curriculum was actually Benchmark (now it's CKLA).
Anonymous
The public schools need to teach and reflect every student. Don't want your privileged white snow-flake to learn about Joe with 2 mommies, or Juan with a Trans parent or whatever? Send them to Catholic school (and get financial aid from your church if you can't afford it). But every kid in public school deserves to see themselves in the curriculum.

It's laughable some of the charges here (teachers forcing kids to be something they are not), it's about exposure to people in real life. Reading any one of these books is not going to change any kid, but might be a breath of fresh air, or a sigh of relief, to kid who doesn't have what you consider a traditional family

-white, heterosexual, married for 25+ years parent of three who is happy our kids went to diverse schools and were able to see and learn about those who have a different family experience than what they have
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never once seen an example of a book that was actually being read in class that was actually offensive. The examples they have in the lawsuit seemed to be books that were on lists to possibly be read but no one ever seemed to say “yes my kids second grade teacher is reading this.”
It just seems like a huge non issue.


+1

Not one of these books was ever used in the classroom

The people are lying. They don't even have kids in public school. This lawsuit is absurd.

SCOTUS will give them this win God help all of us. It is not going to end well. UGH


That’s not true. My DD’s 4th grade class had to read the Boy Named Penelope book. I think that book is absolutely ridiculous and dangerous.

Exactly.


I am not familiar with the book. Can you describe the danger?
Anonymous
Boy Named Penelope by Jodie Patterson is a picture book that chronicles the coming-out experience of her transgender son, Penelope, just before his fifth birthday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Boy Named Penelope by Jodie Patterson is a picture book that chronicles the coming-out experience of her transgender son, Penelope, just before his fifth birthday.

Do you remember the Trump ad "Kamala is for they/them, President Trump is for you?”

It was one of the most memorable and effective ads of the last election, and it’s because of overreaches like this.

Most parents want to stay away from controversial topics in elementary school, and the trans ideology debate is the definition of controversial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of the content is pretty inappropriate for young kids and older kids are tired of it as they go on and on, non-stop and often overlook other groups. Parents should get to opt out.


No it is not.

Get your stupid mind out of the gutter.

Not only that many of the people in that lawsuit have no kids in MCPS they are liars.

Keep your bible thumping crap out of our schools.

You never read those books I have they are fine! You are the one with the porn problem and child abuse Christian Nationalists not draq queens Church!


As you can see from the PP, schools should focus on both argumentation and writing, and leave the social justice instruction at home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of the content is pretty inappropriate for young kids and older kids are tired of it as they go on and on, non-stop and often overlook other groups. Parents should get to opt out.


No it is not.

Get your stupid mind out of the gutter.

Not only that many of the people in that lawsuit have no kids in MCPS they are liars.

Keep your bible thumping crap out of our schools.

You never read those books I have they are fine! You are the one with the porn problem and child abuse Christian Nationalists not draq queens Church!


As you can see from the PP, schools should focus on both argumentation and writing, and leave the social justice instruction at home.


Reading books which include characters from families that differ from yours is not "social justice instruction."
Anonymous
If the argument is based on religion, shouldn't then book about single parent families be banned, what about interfaith families? Which kind of diversity is allowed? It seems like 1 group of people gets to decide for all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If the argument is based on religion, shouldn't then book about single parent families be banned, what about interfaith families? Which kind of diversity is allowed? It seems like 1 group of people gets to decide for all.


I think these are complex and nuanced things to debate and discuss. Unfortunately, MCPS and the BOE opted to not have this debate and discussion publicly, overruling the opinion of their elementary school principals who advised pushing this down to the elementary level was premature and would lead to problems.

Most surveys show that MCPS parents are ok with LGBT content at the secondary level, but there's great opposition at the elementary level, which is what this lawsuit and fight is about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Boy Named Penelope by Jodie Patterson is a picture book that chronicles the coming-out experience of her transgender son, Penelope, just before his fifth birthday.

Do you remember the Trump ad "Kamala is for they/them, President Trump is for you?”

It was one of the most memorable and effective ads of the last election, and it’s because of overreaches like this.

Most parents want to stay away from controversial topics in elementary school, and the trans ideology debate is the definition of controversial.


Republicans do like to push BS narratives. They tend to trigger the bigots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve never once seen an example of a book that was actually being read in class that was actually offensive. The examples they have in the lawsuit seemed to be books that were on lists to possibly be read but no one ever seemed to say “yes my kids second grade teacher is reading this.”
It just seems like a huge non issue.


+1

Not one of these books was ever used in the classroom

The people are lying. They don't even have kids in public school. This lawsuit is absurd.

SCOTUS will give them this win God help all of us. It is not going to end well. UGH


That’s not true. My DD’s 4th grade class had to read the Boy Named Penelope book. I think that book is absolutely ridiculous and dangerous.


Huh? What on earth is "dangerous" about it? I've read it, it's a simple kids book about a kid who's trans... It honestly seems fine even for 5 year olds let alone 4th graders, nothing about genitals or sex or anything else folks might think is age-inappropriate, just a little trans kid being a kid. I can't imagine anything offensive or problematic about it, unless you don't think kids should know that trans kids exist? And even then, dangerous suggests someone could somehow be hurt by it and unless your kid is such a fragile snowflake you think they're going to collapse upon learning of the existence of trans kids (super weird if so), how could a book like this possibly hurt anyone?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of the content is pretty inappropriate for young kids and older kids are tired of it as they go on and on, non-stop and often overlook other groups. Parents should get to opt out.


No it is not.

Get your stupid mind out of the gutter.

Not only that many of the people in that lawsuit have no kids in MCPS they are liars.

Keep your bible thumping crap out of our schools.

You never read those books I have they are fine! You are the one with the porn problem and child abuse Christian Nationalists not draq queens Church!


As you can see from the PP, schools should focus on both argumentation and writing, and leave the social justice instruction at home.


Reading books which include characters from families that differ from yours is not "social justice instruction."


It is and you know it is. Just because you say this doesn’t make it not true. Children should not be subjected to your mental illness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of the content is pretty inappropriate for young kids and older kids are tired of it as they go on and on, non-stop and often overlook other groups. Parents should get to opt out.


No it is not.

Get your stupid mind out of the gutter.

Not only that many of the people in that lawsuit have no kids in MCPS they are liars.

Keep your bible thumping crap out of our schools.

You never read those books I have they are fine! You are the one with the porn problem and child abuse Christian Nationalists not draq queens Church!


As you can see from the PP, schools should focus on both argumentation and writing, and leave the social justice instruction at home.


Reading books which include characters from families that differ from yours is not "social justice instruction."


It is and you know it is. Just because you say this doesn’t make it not true. Children should not be subjected to your mental illness.


You're the one who seems deranged.
Anonymous
My 4 yo was read a book about pride parade in his SpEd program.

If MoCo had a charter school program with school vouchers like DC, people would leave in droves.

My take: it's OK to teach about accepting differences and respecting all people, but this goes into something else. I am appalled that MoCo is spending money on this program and on the lawsuit while cutting other programs due to MD budget defficit. Activism at it's extreme doesn't serve anyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My 4 yo was read a book about pride parade in his SpEd program.

If MoCo had a charter school program with school vouchers like DC, people would leave in droves.

My take: it's OK to teach about accepting differences and respecting all people, but this goes into something else. I am appalled that MoCo is spending money on this program and on the lawsuit while cutting other programs due to MD budget defficit. Activism at it's extreme doesn't serve anyone.


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