Your experiences at Va. public universities...

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Anonymous wrote:Oklahoma has way more prestige. JMU is ranked in the 150s. If you want the prestige factor, go to Oklahoma. Not as much prestige as some schools like Penn State but still

^^demented thinking on display

Wow you are rude. Ever consider being nice? Also, it's trues. Oklahoma prestige is on par with most prestigious southern schools.

"Prestigious southern schools?" What is a prestigious southern school? Most "prestige" is in the NE/Ivies/specific other private and state schools....none of which are "southern." The South is not really known for its prestigious academic institutions. They may be very old and very well known, some may have strong football teams.

You know what? 100% correct, as long as you’re also placing Virginia in the south!

Sure. But I'd list W&M along with those other prestigious southern schools.
UVA is only prestigious in Virginia and to UVA alumnae.

W&M is in no way comparable to Duke.

I know, W&M alums are way less annoying.

Not on this forum. They now equal the officious UVA boosters.

Those aren’t alums. Those are parents of current students. There is no one more annoying than a NOVA parent of a kid at UVA or W&M.

Yes there is - the bitter parent of a kid who didn't get into those schools. Determined to fling poo on them in every college thread.

No, honey. People are simply reacting to the obnoxious boosterism which almost always seems to come from those two schools on this forum. Sorry, you can't trot out your "sour grapes" excuse whenever boosters are called out.
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I'm sorry your kid didn't get in.

"Sorry, you can't trot out your "sour grapes" excuse whenever boosters are called out."

Why would you need to "call out boosters" if you weren't mad about something? But what could it be, hmmmm?

My kids haven't yet applied to colleges, but neither have any interest in those two particular schools. And when you read obnoxious posts by boosters - the Northeastern booster, for instance - don't you get irritated and/or call them out? Sure you do. Stop being so defensive that you have to insist someone's kid didn't get in. It just makes you look desperate and frankly, is a turn off for those of us with future college students.

I have no connection to Northeastern so I don’t care at all when someone boosts them. Nothing they say about that school can trigger any reaction in me. If you feel the need to “call out” the boosters of a particular school, then it’s obvious that something about that school is triggering you emotionally. And there aren’t many things that could be.

If you prevent your kids from applying to a school because of something that was said on DCUM, I pity your kids for having such a dumb parent.

DP. Wow. The PP is correct - boosters (of any school) are incredibly annoying. Especially those who are clearly deluded about the “status” of the school they’re boosting.

And nowhere did the PP say they would prevent their kids from applying due to DCUM boosters. She said her kids *weren’t interested* in the schools being discussed. And neither are mine - I imagine that’s triggering for you to hear.

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Anonymous wrote:VT, JMU and even UVA

the outcomes after 4 years are mixed.

Besides govt or big 4 consulting or fed contractors - most graduates have a hard time finding jobs ( yeah.. a few smart coolies get into amazon etc)

for that reason alone I would not send dc in state in Virginia.

Much better outcomes in mid west and west coast/tx

cookies..noy coolies

no really would like to hear from parents whose kids graduated from vt, jmu, uva - where did the kids go after graduation? was it the intended outcome?

why not ask about all the University of Oklahoma grads who go into management consulting?

are you actually trying to imply that students graduating from the Virginia public university system don’t get good jobs?

This is such a ridiculous idea. All you have to do is look around your neighborhoods and workplaces. Doesn't take long to see how many VT, JMU, UVA grads there are, all doing fine

FWIW VT publishes a lot of details on employers and salaries by major so you can see what jobs they get
https://fds.career.vt.edu/EmployerList?cohort=2022-2023

Yes, DC-area consulting, govt contractors are big recruiters since that's the local industry.

DS just graduated from VT and is starting a job as a data scientist at a government contractor doing something in data analytics systems for the military. Chose it over a couple other offers that were not in DC because those jobs sounded less interesting and he'd prefer to stay in DC.

What did you son major in at VT? My junior is debating between CS or CMDA (https://data.science.vt.edu/programs/cmda.html)

CMDA. It's a great program with opportunities to build your resume while in school through the Databridge program and capstone with industry partners. One of his job offers was from the company he was assigned for his capstone project.

https://news.vt.edu/articles/2024/04/univlib-databridge-Mayfield.html
https://www.databridge.dev/

It also seems often overlooked and so has an easier acceptance rate than Engineering/CS so if it's appealing it makes more sense to apply to CMDA. A lot of the students also minor or double major in CS.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

Trolly McTrollster, hard at work on a Sunday evening.

NP. "Public Ivies" is a real
term snd has been in use 40 years. We college counselors use it: Read wiki and here is AI on it whoch you will find if you google:

Public Ivy schools are highly regarded public universities that are considered to be comparable to the Ivy League:
University of California, Berkeley: A top Public Ivy
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: A top Public Ivy
University of Virginia: A top Public Ivy
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: A top Public Ivy
University of Texas at Austin: A leading research institution with a lively campus culture
College of William & Mary: A historic and prestigious school with a strong tradition of public service
Other Public Ivy schools include ....

UT UNC are the same schools just slapped in different states

UT is really strong in areas that are lightly covered at UNC like engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you considered OOS auto merit awards?

Oklahoma

http://www.ou.edu/admissions/affordability/scholarships.html

Alabama

https://afford.ua.edu/scholarships/out-of-state-freshman/

Arizona (The Arizona Tuition Award)

https://financialaid.arizona.edu/2025-2026-terms-and-conditions

lol why would you send your kid to college in Oklahoma instead of JMU? you people have truly lost the plot.

Because Oklahoma’s merit makes COA competitive while also offering more programs, sports, etc. So it’s an option for some who want to go OOS - oh and it’s higher ranked than JMU (132 vs 148).

That’s the point - it’s demented to put so much store in going out of state and on rankings like that.

"Demented" seems a bit extreme.
Some people WANT a change of scenery. Going to a school where 40 other kids from your class, plus dozens of others that you know from church, out of school ECs, etc. isn't what everyone wants.

Some VA schools are large enough you hardly if ever run into, never mind see across the way, other kids from hs, church, ECs, etc. This is the case for my kid at UVA.

I wouldn't know because my kids didn't go to in-state schools. But talking with friends with kids at in state schools, they often run into old classmates and such-living in the same dorms, joining the same clubs, going to the same parties... The ones I've heard of are specifically at Virginia tech and JMU.

Most of the kids I know at JMU live with at least one high school friend.

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UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/e19_report.asp

Radford: 91.8%
UMW: 89.7%
VCU: 91.0%
CNU: 94.4%

Would you rather I say 75-95?

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UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

Look it up on SCHEV (https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B8_Report_new.asp). All the data is there. For 2023/24- ~27% of students enrolled in VA 4 year public colleges and universities were OOS. At W&M-~38%, VT- ~39%, UVA--35%. JMU--~30%, GMU--~27%. W&M and VT both have better OOS yields than UVA, which explains part of the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:VT, JMU and even UVA

the outcomes after 4 years are mixed.

Besides govt or big 4 consulting or fed contractors - most graduates have a hard time finding jobs ( yeah.. a few smart coolies get into amazon etc)

for that reason alone I would not send dc in state in Virginia.

Much better outcomes in mid west and west coast/tx

cookies..noy coolies

no really would like to hear from parents whose kids graduated from vt, jmu, uva - where did the kids go after graduation? was it the intended outcome?

why not ask about all the University of Oklahoma grads who go into management consulting?

are you actually trying to imply that students graduating from the Virginia public university system don’t get good jobs?

This is such a ridiculous idea. All you have to do is look around your neighborhoods and workplaces. Doesn't take long to see how many VT, JMU, UVA grads there are, all doing fine

FWIW VT publishes a lot of details on employers and salaries by major so you can see what jobs they get
https://fds.career.vt.edu/EmployerList?cohort=2022-2023

Yes, DC-area consulting, govt contractors are big recruiters since that's the local industry.

DS just graduated from VT and is starting a job as a data scientist at a government contractor doing something in data analytics systems for the military. Chose it over a couple other offers that were not in DC because those jobs sounded less interesting and he'd prefer to stay in DC.

What did you son major in at VT? My junior is debating between CS or CMDA (https://data.science.vt.edu/programs/cmda.html)

CMDA. It's a great program with opportunities to build your resume while in school through the Databridge program and capstone with industry partners. One of his job offers was from the company he was assigned for his capstone project.

https://news.vt.edu/articles/2024/04/univlib-databridge-Mayfield.html
https://www.databridge.dev/

It also seems often overlooked and so has an easier acceptance rate than Engineering/CS so if it's appealing it makes more sense to apply to CMDA. A lot of the students also minor or double major in CS.

Oh wow! Congratulations! I'd love to talk more about this with you. Did your son live in Digerati LLC? This is my first and I love all the things the living learning Hypatia offers so what we worry about with her switching to CMDA is no CEED support and no Hypatia. Did he get support as a CMDA major?

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Anonymous wrote:VT, JMU and even UVA

the outcomes after 4 years are mixed.

Besides govt or big 4 consulting or fed contractors - most graduates have a hard time finding jobs ( yeah.. a few smart coolies get into amazon etc)

for that reason alone I would not send dc in state in Virginia.

Much better outcomes in mid west and west coast/tx

cookies..noy coolies

no really would like to hear from parents whose kids graduated from vt, jmu, uva - where did the kids go after graduation? was it the intended outcome?

why not ask about all the University of Oklahoma grads who go into management consulting?

are you actually trying to imply that students graduating from the Virginia public university system don’t get good jobs?

This is such a ridiculous idea. All you have to do is look around your neighborhoods and workplaces. Doesn't take long to see how many VT, JMU, UVA grads there are, all doing fine

FWIW VT publishes a lot of details on employers and salaries by major so you can see what jobs they get
https://fds.career.vt.edu/EmployerList?cohort=2022-2023

Yes, DC-area consulting, govt contractors are big recruiters since that's the local industry.

DS just graduated from VT and is starting a job as a data scientist at a government contractor doing something in data analytics systems for the military. Chose it over a couple other offers that were not in DC because those jobs sounded less interesting and he'd prefer to stay in DC.

What did you son major in at VT? My junior is debating between CS or CMDA (https://data.science.vt.edu/programs/cmda.html)

CMDA. It's a great program with opportunities to build your resume while in school through the Databridge program and capstone with industry partners. One of his job offers was from the company he was assigned for his capstone project.

https://news.vt.edu/articles/2024/04/univlib-databridge-Mayfield.html
https://www.databridge.dev/

It also seems often overlooked and so has an easier acceptance rate than Engineering/CS so if it's appealing it makes more sense to apply to CMDA. A lot of the students also minor or double major in CS.

Oh wow! Congratulations! I'd love to talk more about this with you. Did your son live in Digerati LLC? This is my first and I love all the things the living learning Hypatia offers so what we worry about with her switching to CMDA is no CEED support and no Hypatia. Did he get support as a CMDA major?

Digerati didn't exist when he was a freshman so he was in Orion (College of Science). He didn't love it, CMDA is a bit of an outlier among science majors, so I think Digerati would be better. But I think all of them put the students in small groups that meet weekly which helps with getting to know others.
He seemed to get help when needed from professors and was himself a TA for a math professor. There's also a CMDA club which seems like it might be helpful. DS didn't do that one -- he started in the first post-covid year and things were weird. He also strongly recommends Databridge for building skills and relationships with professors. Says that's really how he got an internship last year, which turned into a post-grad job.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you considered OOS auto merit awards?

Oklahoma

http://www.ou.edu/admissions/affordability/scholarships.html

Alabama

https://afford.ua.edu/scholarships/out-of-state-freshman/

Arizona (The Arizona Tuition Award)

https://financialaid.arizona.edu/2025-2026-terms-and-conditions

lol why would you send your kid to college in Oklahoma instead of JMU? you people have truly lost the plot.

Because Oklahoma’s merit makes COA competitive while also offering more programs, sports, etc. So it’s an option for some who want to go OOS - oh and it’s higher ranked than JMU (132 vs 148).

That’s the point - it’s demented to put so much store in going out of state and on rankings like that.

"Demented" seems a bit extreme.
Some people WANT a change of scenery. Going to a school where 40 other kids from your class, plus dozens of others that you know from church, out of school ECs, etc. isn't what everyone wants.

Some VA schools are large enough you hardly if ever run into, never mind see across the way, other kids from hs, church, ECs, etc. This is the case for my kid at UVA.

I wouldn't know because my kids didn't go to in-state schools. But talking with friends with kids at in state schools, they often run into old classmates and such-living in the same dorms, joining the same clubs, going to the same parties... The ones I've heard of are specifically at Virginia tech and JMU.

Most of the kids I know at JMU live with at least one high school friend.

Anecdotes are fun! None of the kids I know at JMU (including my own) live with or see people from high school.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

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So stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/e19_report.asp

Radford: 91.8%
UMW: 89.7%
VCU: 91.0%
CNU: 94.4%

Would you rather I say 75-95?

DP. Weird that you chose different schools for your response, as opposed to the other three in your previous post.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/e19_report.asp

Radford: 91.8%
UMW: 89.7%
VCU: 91.0%
CNU: 94.4%

Would you rather I say 75-95?

DP. Weird that you chose different schools for your response, as opposed to the other three in your previous post.

You're gonna be shocked when you get to the percentages unit in math.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, W&M, VT all have around 60-66% in state percentage, JMU, GMU, ODU, UMW, etc. all have 75-100% in state percentage.

Troll, cite your source. I don't think any of these schools have 100% in-state percentage.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/e19_report.asp

Radford: 91.8%
UMW: 89.7%
VCU: 91.0%
CNU: 94.4%

Would you rather I say 75-95?

DP. Weird that you chose different schools for your response, as opposed to the other three in your previous post.

You're gonna be shocked when you get to the percentages unit in math.

That’s not at all what I was talking about. Sorry your reading comprehension sucks.