40% of women under 30 voted for Trump

[Anonymous]

I don't know how we change the shift where Republicans can say and do anything they want and people will still vote for them even if they don't agree with everything that they stand for 100%. But by God if a Democrat takes a position that you are even lukewarm about, they lose votes and never get them back... So basically, a Democrat can never take a position on anything for fear of alienating voters for life and so you're stuck in this weird limbo and are held to a completely different standard than Republicans

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Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.

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I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.

All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.

Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat

Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.

No one accepts malpractice. We all want these cases to result in consequences for the doctors that make terrible calls. That’s true for pregnancy care as well as all the other forms of medical malpractice that exist. It’s idiotic to suggest that someone “accepts” doctor error.

The family members of some of these women, who were with them at the hospital, say that doctors said they couldn’t intervene.

If in a few years, when we have the data, there’s been a significant uptick in deaths of pregnant women due to sepsis in states with abortion bans, but no increase in sepsis deaths for any other population, will you admit you were wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how we change the shift where Republicans can say and do anything they want and people will still vote for them even if they don't agree with everything that they stand for 100%. But by God if a Democrat takes a position that you are even lukewarm about, they lose votes and never get them back... So basically, a Democrat can never take a position on anything for fear of alienating voters for life and so you're stuck in this weird limbo and are held to a completely different standard than Republicans

This is it exactly. Young people would rather not vote than vote for a Democratic candidate who doesn't tick every box on their magic wish list of qualities/ideals.

I think the only way to fix it would to be with a younger candidate who 'speaks' their language and who can motivate them.

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Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.

+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.

All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.

Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat

Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.

No one accepts malpractice. We all want these cases to result in consequences for the doctors that make terrible calls. That’s true for pregnancy care as well as all the other forms of medical malpractice that exist. It’s idiotic to suggest that someone “accepts” doctor error.

The family members of some of these women, who were with them at the hospital, say that doctors said they couldn’t intervene.

If in a few years, when we have the data, there’s been a significant uptick in deaths of pregnant women due to sepsis in states with abortion bans, but no increase in sepsis deaths for any other population, will you admit you were wrong?

That was not in the pro publica reports. Regardless, those family members can start a malpractice lawsuit just like any other family member who has experienced medical error. And no, there has been no significant uptick. You’re pulling that out of your butt.

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Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.

+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.

All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.

Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat

Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.

No one accepts malpractice. We all want these cases to result in consequences for the doctors that make terrible calls. That’s true for pregnancy care as well as all the other forms of medical malpractice that exist. It’s idiotic to suggest that someone “accepts” doctor error.

The family members of some of these women, who were with them at the hospital, say that doctors said they couldn’t intervene.

If in a few years, when we have the data, there’s been a significant uptick in deaths of pregnant women due to sepsis in states with abortion bans, but no increase in sepsis deaths for any other population, will you admit you were wrong?

That was not in the pro publica reports. Regardless, those family members can start a malpractice lawsuit just like any other family member who has experienced medical error. And no, there has been no significant uptick. You’re pulling that out of your butt.

And that physician will just point out to state law.

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Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.

+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.

All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.

Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat

Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.

No one accepts malpractice. We all want these cases to result in consequences for the doctors that make terrible calls. That’s true for pregnancy care as well as all the other forms of medical malpractice that exist. It’s idiotic to suggest that someone “accepts” doctor error.

The family members of some of these women, who were with them at the hospital, say that doctors said they couldn’t intervene.

If in a few years, when we have the data, there’s been a significant uptick in deaths of pregnant women due to sepsis in states with abortion bans, but no increase in sepsis deaths for any other population, will you admit you were wrong?

That was not in the pro publica reports. Regardless, those family members can start a malpractice lawsuit just like any other family member who has experienced medical error. And no, there has been no significant uptick. You’re pulling that out of your butt.

And that physician will just point out to state law.

There is zero evidence in the record that that physician was influenced by the law. But yes, all states allow for medical emergencies requiring abortion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how we change the shift where Republicans can say and do anything they want and people will still vote for them even if they don't agree with everything that they stand for 100%. But by God if a Democrat takes a position that you are even lukewarm about, they lose votes and never get them back... So basically, a Democrat can never take a position on anything for fear of alienating voters for life and so you're stuck in this weird limbo and are held to a completely different standard than Republicans

This is it exactly. Young people would rather not vote than vote for a Democratic candidate who doesn't tick every box on their magic wish list of qualities/ideals.

I think the only way to fix it would to be with a younger candidate who 'speaks' their language and who can motivate them.

You don't want to hear this, but Democrats need to find someone who not only will "speak" their language and motivate them, but someone who is strong enough to lead with common sense and moderation. No more extremist talk. No more my way or the high way talk. No more nonsense that only appeals to 1-2% of the base. Learn to read the room and cater to the majority of what people want when it comes to key issues. Stop dismissing people's perceptions and beliefs on crime, economy, illegal immigration, etc.

[Anonymous]

I work with a lot of young women and a surprising number voted for Trump. I have a few theories why...
First of all the young men who are Republican are infinitely more attractive than the liberal ones. Just in my workplace, the Harris-voting young men were all either gay or obese man-children. The Trump-voting young men are muscular and masculine and obviously young women eat that up.
Secondly there was a big thing with the Covid vaccine. A couple years ago my boss announced who had not gotten their shot yet (total HIPAA violation) and it was all young women. They were worried about their periods stopping and other side effects they'd heard about from friends. Supposedly there was going to be a mass firing of them in April 2023 but nothing ended up happening. Reading about this sent them into some interesting corners of the internet.
Finally, yes, cultural issues. I can't go into detail without this post getting deleted but we had not one but two coworkers who caused a lot of drama and got away with murder because of their identity. A bunch of young women confessed to me that they thought the whole thing was a sham.

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Anonymous wrote:For the youngest, COVID policy was undoubtedly a factor. Many of these kids had their high school and/or college experience almost entirely ruined. They saw who was pushing to drag restrictions on and on and on, and it definitely wasn’t the Republicans.

Along with the other factors mentioned already.

Trump was president then.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of young women and a surprising number voted for Trump. I have a few theories why...
First of all the young men who are Republican are infinitely more attractive than the liberal ones. Just in my workplace, the Harris-voting young men were all either gay or obese man-children. The Trump-voting young men are muscular and masculine and obviously young women eat that up.
Secondly there was a big thing with the Covid vaccine. A couple years ago my boss announced who had not gotten their shot yet (total HIPAA violation) and it was all young women. They were worried about their periods stopping and other side effects they'd heard about from friends. Supposedly there was going to be a mass firing of them in April 2023 but nothing ended up happening. Reading about this sent them into some interesting corners of the internet.
Finally, yes, cultural issues. I can't go into detail without this post getting deleted but we had not one but two coworkers who caused a lot of drama and got away with murder because of their identity. A bunch of young women confessed to me that they thought the whole thing was a sham.

+A lot of young women are from conservative families and date conservative men. I’m sure many decided their vote on their own but many people just go with the flow of the people around them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how we change the shift where Republicans can say and do anything they want and people will still vote for them even if they don't agree with everything that they stand for 100%. But by God if a Democrat takes a position that you are even lukewarm about, they lose votes and never get them back... So basically, a Democrat can never take a position on anything for fear of alienating voters for life and so you're stuck in this weird limbo and are held to a completely different standard than Republicans

This is it exactly. Young people would rather not vote than vote for a Democratic candidate who doesn't tick every box on their magic wish list of qualities/ideals.

I think the only way to fix it would to be with a younger candidate who 'speaks' their language and who can motivate them.

They just got a giant lesson about the lie of a “protest vote”. They may not realize it yet, but they will, and it will shame them for generations just like the “good” Germans of the 30s and 40s.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how we change the shift where Republicans can say and do anything they want and people will still vote for them even if they don't agree with everything that they stand for 100%. But by God if a Democrat takes a position that you are even lukewarm about, they lose votes and never get them back... So basically, a Democrat can never take a position on anything for fear of alienating voters for life and so you're stuck in this weird limbo and are held to a completely different standard than Republicans

This is it exactly. Young people would rather not vote than vote for a Democratic candidate who doesn't tick every box on their magic wish list of qualities/ideals.

I think the only way to fix it would to be with a younger candidate who 'speaks' their language and who can motivate them.

You don't want to hear this, but Democrats need to find someone who not only will "speak" their language and motivate them, but someone who is strong enough to lead with common sense and moderation. No more extremist talk. No more my way or the high way talk. No more nonsense that only appeals to 1-2% of the base. Learn to read the room and cater to the majority of what people want when it comes to key issues. Stop dismissing people's perceptions and beliefs on crime, economy, illegal immigration, etc.

Sir or Ma'am, that wAs Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t experienced much sexism in the workplace, yet.

Nor have I and I’m 52.
Most women really aren’t as easily triggered as those who claim to speak for us are.

This. I'm flattered when a male co-worked tells me I my hair looks nice or my outfit is nice. Those who think that's negative is any way really do need to get a life.

Most of us normal women feel the same way.

What does any of the above have to do with this election? Seriously, what are you talking about? Men complimenting you? How did this come up in the election exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of young women and a surprising number voted for Trump. I have a few theories why...
First of all the young men who are Republican are infinitely more attractive than the liberal ones. Just in my workplace, the Harris-voting young men were all either gay or obese man-children. The Trump-voting young men are muscular and masculine and obviously young women eat that up.
Secondly there was a big thing with the Covid vaccine. A couple years ago my boss announced who had not gotten their shot yet (total HIPAA violation) and it was all young women. They were worried about their periods stopping and other side effects they'd heard about from friends. Supposedly there was going to be a mass firing of them in April 2023 but nothing ended up happening. Reading about this sent them into some interesting corners of the internet.
Finally, yes, cultural issues. I can't go into detail without this post getting deleted but we had not one but two coworkers who caused a lot of drama and got away with murder because of their identity. A bunch of young women confessed to me that they thought the whole thing was a sham.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL. I mean just look at the parade of misfits around Trump and then Trump himself. One more attractive than the other.

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t experienced much sexism in the workplace, yet.

Nor have I and I’m 52.
Most women really aren’t as easily triggered as those who claim to speak for us are.

This. I'm flattered when a male co-worked tells me I my hair looks nice or my outfit is nice. Those who think that's negative is any way really do need to get a life.

Most of us normal women feel the same way.

What does any of the above have to do with this election? Seriously, what are you talking about? Men complimenting you? How did this come up in the election exactly?

That's how dumb America is.