40% of women under 30 voted for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/08/young-voters-trump-gen-z

This group should have been a lock-in for Harris. What is the explanation for why such a large percentage of young women voted for Trump?


I sincerely hope that this vote bites them all in the uterus.


You don't want to listen to the explanations - denial denial denial.


Unfortunately, I do understand the explanations quite well. I accept them and that's why I hope it bites them. That's not denial, hon.
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Anonymous wrote:Common sense mainly.

Kamala is as unauthentic as a human can be. Trump is a lot of things, but you know who he is.

Democrats plan to skip the Primary process and install her blew up magnificently.


We do. He's a serial adulterer, sexual predator, liar, and bully. And someone desiring to be a fascist. And y'all thought that was better than having an accomplished woman at the helm.

Cool.

But that reflects on you, not me.
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Anonymous wrote:You do realize there are other human rights issues going on around the world, including in Ukraine. Do not care about the slaughter of those people? Because that is what a trump presidency gives you


A slight point of history: the Ukraine war began in the Biden presidency as did the Gaza war. Biden led a poorly planned withdrawal from Afghanistan which emboldened terrorist groups around the world. He has done little for refugees in Chad fleeing the war in South Sudan and can't even get a handle on crime in the US, which daily violates human rights.


Trump negotiated with terrorists to plan that withdrawal and he drew down early putting us in a no win situation. You voted for the A- hole who set that up.
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Anonymous wrote:You do realize there are other human rights issues going on around the world, including in Ukraine. Do not care about the slaughter of those people? Because that is what a trump presidency gives you


A slight point of history: the Ukraine war began in the Biden presidency as did the Gaza war. Biden led a poorly planned withdrawal from Afghanistan which emboldened terrorist groups around the world. He has done little for refugees in Chad fleeing the war in South Sudan and can't even get a handle on crime in the US, which daily violates human rights.

Trump negotiated with the Taliban instead of the Afghan government, agreed to draw down our troops and release 5,000 Talibans prisoners from our custody. Trump also agreed to a deadline for complete withdrawal that happened to fall during Biden’s term. Biden delayed the total withdrawal by a few months, but realized we didn’t have enough troops there to keep order. His choices were sending more troops over or just pulling out without putting more US boots on the ground. You can criticize the chaotic withdrawal process all you want, but Trump is not blameless for the parameters he set for the incoming administration.

You can’t seriously believe Trump will lead the way in helping Sudanese refugees?

You’re upset about our support for Israel and the fact that we haven’t done more to help the Palestinians. You cite the fact that we didn’t have this war under Trump, as though he kept Netanyahu in check, while Biden gave him free rein to slaughter Palestinians. It’s Hamas who started this conflict, not Israel. Yes, the US needs to increase the pressure on Israel to stop this genocide, but guess who is actually a friend of Netanyahu’s? Donald Trump! So how does electing him help Palestinians? Also, we don’t support Israel out of the goodness of our hearts. We benefit from having a middle eastern country with a powerful military as our ally. We have a lot of the same enemies. We arm the Israelis so their soldiers fight instead of ours.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a white woman with a graduate degree, an atheist, live in NOVA, mainly get my news from CNN and the Washington Post, and love the Daily Show. I still voted for Trump, and it is entirely due to cultural issues. Don’t underestimate this. The culture is deeply personal and has great importance for people.




Aheits can be dumb and racist too.



With all the minorities who voted for Trump it’s really time to find a new insult.


Racism and sexism are baked into our cultural DNA. It takes deprogramming. Which takes a lot of practice and the will to learn about how it creeps up, even if we’re well intentioned - toward ourselves and others.


Oh yes, the old standby of internalized racism and misogyny. Get over your smug self. Do you have any clue how patronizing this is?


Not at all. I don’t think it’s limited to Trump supporters, and think it’s dishonest to veto it outright. People are cloaked in their own beliefs, which is dangerous. I hear a lot of Trumpsters calling on Dems to self-reflect, but unwilling to do same.


How dare people think for themselves!
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Anonymous wrote:I am a white woman with a graduate degree, an atheist, live in NOVA, mainly get my news from CNN and the Washington Post, and love the Daily Show. I still voted for Trump, and it is entirely due to cultural issues. Don’t underestimate this. The culture is deeply personal and has great importance for people.




Aheits can be dumb and racist too.



With all the minorities who voted for Trump it’s really time to find a new insult.


Racism and sexism are baked into our cultural DNA. It takes deprogramming. Which takes a lot of practice and the will to learn about how it creeps up, even if we’re well intentioned - toward ourselves and others.


Oh yes, the old standby of internalized racism and misogyny. Get over your smug self. Do you have any clue how patronizing this is?


Not at all. I don’t think it’s limited to Trump supporters, and think it’s dishonest to veto it outright. People are cloaked in their own beliefs, which is dangerous. I hear a lot of Trumpsters calling on Dems to self-reflect, but unwilling to do same.


How dare people think for themselves!


Losing teams need to go back to the locker room to review the game to see why they lost. Then make necessary changes to try and win the next game.
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Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.


+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.


All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.


Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat


Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do realize there are other human rights issues going on around the world, including in Ukraine. Do not care about the slaughter of those people? Because that is what a trump presidency gives you


A slight point of history: the Ukraine war began in the Biden presidency as did the Gaza war. Biden led a poorly planned withdrawal from Afghanistan which emboldened terrorist groups around the world. He has done little for refugees in Chad fleeing the war in South Sudan and can't even get a handle on crime in the US, which daily violates human rights.


Trump negotiated with terrorists to plan that withdrawal and he drew down early putting us in a no win situation. You voted for the A- hole who set that up.


Kamala said she wouldn’t have done anything differently. Remember that?
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Anonymous wrote:I am a white woman with a graduate degree, an atheist, live in NOVA, mainly get my news from CNN and the Washington Post, and love the Daily Show. I still voted for Trump, and it is entirely due to cultural issues. Don’t underestimate this. The culture is deeply personal and has great importance for people.




Aheits can be dumb and racist too.



With all the minorities who voted for Trump it’s really time to find a new insult.


You underestimate self hate.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do realize there are other human rights issues going on around the world, including in Ukraine. Do not care about the slaughter of those people? Because that is what a trump presidency gives you


A slight point of history: the Ukraine war began in the Biden presidency as did the Gaza war. Biden led a poorly planned withdrawal from Afghanistan which emboldened terrorist groups around the world. He has done little for refugees in Chad fleeing the war in South Sudan and can't even get a handle on crime in the US, which daily violates human rights.


Who invited the taliban ar Camp David and negotiated the withdrawal?

And don’t make me laugh with your concern for refugees


No one is buying the BS that the chaotic withdrawal wasn’t Biden’s fault. Give me a break. He was the one responsible - who delayed the withdrawal date of May 1 of that plea deal but then pushed forward rapidly in August even when it was clear the Taliban wasn’t cooperating with the agreement.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.


+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.


All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.


Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat


Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.


Tell that to the doctors who are refusing to be residents in red states. Their numbers are significantly down. The impact is going to be that OBGYNs are not going to those places and women will have to drive hours for care. It's already happening.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.


+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.


All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.


Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat


Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.


+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.


All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.


Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat


Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.


Tell that to the doctors who are refusing to be residents in red states. Their numbers are significantly down. The impact is going to be that OBGYNs are not going to those places and women will have to drive hours for care. It's already happening.


If that were really a problem, red states would respond. They aren’t struggling to fill their obgyn residency slots.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.


+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.


All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.


Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat


Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.


There is zero evidence that the cases amplified in the media were caused by doctors fearful of prosecution rather than medical error and no evidence that there are more pregnancy related malpractice cases now vs a decade ago, or in red states vs blue. You’re responding to anecdotal media stories being promoted as part of an agenda.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women’s sports, bathrooms as safe spaces for women and crime in the stores and streets affect women more than men.

Also, young women have brains and are also concerned about national issues like the economy and illegal immigration.


+1

I voted for Harris, but if it hadn’t been for Jan 6, I would have voted for Trump because of these issues.

Competing against biological males in sports is more concerning to you than possibly being denied appropriate medical care during/after a miscarriage? Only one of those two things can kill you and leave any older children of yours without a mother. The number of women who want or need to terminate a pregnancy is far higher than the number of biological female athletes competing against transgender women.


All states, every single one, allow for miscarriage care and abortions when needed in medical emergencies to save the mother, so stop with the misinformation.


Tell that to the women who died from sepsis because their unviable fetus still had a heartbeat


Cases of medical malpractice even for pregnant women existed prior to the overturn of Roe Vs Wade. We will always have to handle cases of malpractice - it’s a leading cause of death in the US. But again, treatment of miscarriages has always been allowed and that won’t change, neither will a mother’s ability to get an abortion to save her life.

There’s the law as it’s intended in theory and then there’s the law as it is actually applied in real life circumstances. You can write these cases off as malpractice, but these bans incentivize malpractice over intervening when a pregnant woman’s health goes south. Some women have already died because of the type of callous disregard you’re exhibiting in this thread. Accepting more malpractice, incentivized by the law, is not pro life.


No one accepts malpractice. We all want these cases to result in consequences for the doctors that make terrible calls. That’s true for pregnancy care as well as all the other forms of medical malpractice that exist. It’s idiotic to suggest that someone “accepts” doctor error.
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