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Anonymous wrote:This question was added after John Roberts said specifically this is how race could be brought up in an application.
But yes, colleges still are only looking for URM. Not Asian etc.
So if you’re white or Asian, etc, write about the pool or the gym or the neighborhood skate park.
But if you’re in a racial group they want, this is where you add it
If they don't want white and Asian students why do they accept so many?
They don't want white or Asian students.. because there are already so many of them!
Meaning it is just more competitive amongst your peers if you are white or Asian, and less if you're not. Not that schools don't want white or Asian students at all.
Really unpopular opinion but colleges love Asian students and they’re highly overrepresented and nag as if they’re martyrs because they have to go to ucla or brown instead of Harvard- their parents’ dream
Asians are over-represented and that is the problem. They have too many and need to be more selective with asians in order to avoid almost half the students being asian.
Then ask Asian students if they’d be okay with low performing Asian groups receiving a big boost and see how quickly the tides change on their opinions. Same with including them in AA.
I belong to an underrepresented, disadvantaged Asian subgroup. I still very much disagree with using race or ethnicity in admissions even if it were to boost my kid's chances of admission. The problem is that when a group is favored like this, they get to college and are discriminated against because other people assume they are not smart enough to be there. I do not want this happening to my kid.
They’re going to be discriminated anyway. I went to Caltech as a minority, and it had 0% different effect on how people perceived as dumber and less successful than them. This was when Caltech had one of the most “meritocratic” admissions processes: read useless measures of academic performance which mean nothing on a national scale when we have a district-dependent education system.
People are going to discriminate against the black kids no matter if they got in on merit, got in with AA, or hell if they don’t get in, there’ll still be complaints. You can’t goody tissues yourself out of racism.
If admissions were completely race-blind then any complaints about minorities getting in would have a different basis. It would of course still feel very very ugly, and I would feel justified at being angry at people who are racist. However, I would rather not pile on top of this the belief that all members of my minority group did not have to pass the same intellectual standard to get in. That feels worse to me. I get that you feel differently, but this is my stance.
Do you think there’s a societal impact if we stop admitting diverse classes of people to be in our medical schools, congressional halls, leaders of our non profits, etc.
Yes, diversity is important but achieving it by discriminating against other non minority groups is not the answer.
If we do not have physicians of color and wait out improving education for k-12 (which would take maybe 5-6 decades minimum to get on equal footing), we will have a health crisis for our communities of color. Not every thing can just be stalled out for the broaches of Meritocracy.
We've had AA for over 5 decades. Where's all the K-12 progress you say would happen in parallel with racial preferences?
Nobody wants the doctor that got into medical school because of their skin color.
Yes
, luckily those doctors don’t exist and you are just this small thing we call Racist.
There’s a glut of med school applicants and an artificial low amount of seats to keep doctor salaries high. Everyone who gets the chance is qualified, and It’s repulsive that you think med school boards want incompetent people in their classes. If you can’t trust a doctor that had to go through the admissions process, completed board exams and has gone through residency…that’s a you issue.
Yes affirmative action has been in place a while. Turns out economically depriving an entire race for the skin color for centuries kinda pushes people back. If you want examples of highly successful black people who are benefiting from the system, the bulk are foreign born or immigrant parent kids, just like Asian Americans who were selected from the wealthiest in their societies.
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