The federal government needs to set a floor below which abortion access cannot be restricted. In other words— exactly what Roe did. States can decide at what point they want to restrict care but only after a federally mandated timeline. |
When you select members of the Supreme Court you put in motion the upholding of laws that support that you (and your constituents) want. Cue roe vs. Wade |
Because the Dobbs decision didn’t leave the issue up to the states, it left it up to “the people and their representatives” which includes Congress. |
So we find him scary. He's telling us he's scary. But your defense of him is that he's a giant liar so that means he's not actually scary? Hm. No, not convinced. |
Biden has deported more people that Trump did. fact. |
I totally agree. I just mean the bad faith “OMG ITS A STATES ISSUE” posters need to explain why the republicans tripped over themselves to try to pass a federal ban in 2022 if this was understood to be a states issue. |
It’s no secret to anyone that Roe was the best thing to ever happen to Republican fundraising. A national abortion ban has been their North Star goal, and chief wedge issue, for nearly 50 years, medical science and the views of women notwithstanding. Dobbs was absolutely a victory for them regardless of whether it achieved the goal. Relevant to this thread, though, the president can do very little to take it the rest of the way; as noted, this is up to Congress, SCOTUS, and voters. So all of this bickering doesn’t answer the question: what rights might Donald Trump personally be able to and likely to remove? Conversely, what rights might Kamala Harris personally be able to and likely to restore? Not abortion, obviously. |
BECAUSE HE LET MORE IN. Fact. |
Yes abortion obviously. This election will be a referendum on Dobbs and it will not go Trump's way. |
He's saying whatever it is he thinks he needs to say to get elected. |
It's simply not a states issue. That poster(s) is disingenuously representing that position or just doesn't understand government. It's currently with the states, but they don't have exclusive domain over it. Congress can act. Regardless of whether they will or won't, they have the power to. |
And are you suggesting Biden issue an executive order reinstalling abortion rights in all 50 states? You cons would go ballistic over that, calling him a dictator. |
It's untrue that Trump can't and won't do immediate damage to abortion rights. He can ban mifepristone from being shipped via the Comstock Act with a stroke of a pen. He can also declare IUDs and birth control pills as abortifacients, and ban those as well. |
Imagine if blood transfusions suddenly became a "states rights" issue and some states decided to ban them. Is that their right to ban this? Is it a states right to ban all organ transplants if a state wanted to? How about banning chemotherapy - is that a states right, too? Why does a state "and the people" get to determine the health care of the people in that state? |
+1 Also that platform statement interprets the 14th Amendment as covering embryos and fetuses which is the justification that will make all that happen. |