federal employee pay raise 2025

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He couldn't do a higher pay raise because it would have resulted in furloughs and RIFs at agencies where the expenses are almost entirely salaries. If you give everyone a 4.5% raise and there is no budget for it, guess what happens. There are already places that will struggle at 2%.

BULLLLCRAAPPPP.

if some of the agencies function is just to pay their employees and they can't collect their own fees then may be there should be some RIF/cuts needed.

Governments don’t exist to make profits. It’s there to do the things for the public good that would not be done otherwise. Some agencies primarily have human capital, and they probably are relatively inexpensive and work on the equivalent of a fixed income. Federal dollars are also divided between personal services (paying people) and non-personal services (everything else, including contractors). You can’t use one to pay the other. So particularly under a continuing resolution there is no additional PS money to fund the raises, and this hurts those smaller agencies with no wiggle room.

It amazes me that these MAGA cretins need to be told this. Shows how awful the general education system is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

it did not. Under his first administration, feds got 7.4 percent compared to 14.5 under Biden. I think feds need to stop whining.

and while Trump may have given pitiful increases his first administration, I'm convinced it will be nothing or less than his first term. I can see 1% every year. meaning feds will fall further behind. what's different this time is Trump absolutely despises feds. Last time around he didn't know better. but yall got in the way of him accomplishing his agenda (from his point of view). The fact that he wants to fire 75 percent of yall on day #1, I don't see a world where you get equal or better raises than what Biden gave. Now, I'm not silly enough to believe he will actually succeed in firing 75 percent of feds. what I'm saying is his mentality will equal bad raises.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a bad pay raise and it almost keeps up with inflation. I'm just thankful to have a job.

A pay raise that “almost keeps up” is a tiny pay cut, no? I would have made very different decisions had I understood that my Federal career would be twenty years, so far, years of annual pay raises that “almost” or “don’t by a long shot” keep up with inflation.

Have other careers kept up this poorly or is it just us?

I have encouraged DC to stay away from public service. It's neither well rewarded or appreciated. If DC wants to be a do-gooder career wise, DC should make money in the private sector first and then turn to public service in late 40's or early 50's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a bad pay raise and it almost keeps up with inflation. I'm just thankful to have a job.

A pay raise that “almost keeps up” is a tiny pay cut, no? I would have made very different decisions had I understood that my Federal career would be twenty years, so far, years of annual pay raises that “almost” or “don’t by a long shot” keep up with inflation.

Have other careers kept up this poorly or is it just us?

It’s just us.

My private sector DH got 4% this year. So I don’t think many employers are fully keeping up with inflation. However, 2% with everything going on is pitiful.

Highest health insurance premium increase in recent history (average of 13.5%), on top of 8% inflation, and an incoming administration that talks nonstop about how much they hate us and want us to lose our jobs. Oh and possible increased commuting expenses.

I think Trump/DOGE are going to meet their goal of getting a lot of Feds to leave. Sorry to the American public that the best performers are going to leave and not be replaced.

I think they need to go after oldies that are sucking up and poor performers.

You are quite ageist, and are you expecting to die young yourself. How tragic, or maybe not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

Good or bad, it isn't the same people running Trump in the second administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

it did not. Under his first administration, feds got 7.4 percent compared to 14.5 under Biden. I think feds need to stop whining.

and while Trump may have given pitiful increases his first administration, I'm convinced it will be nothing or less than his first term. I can see 1% every year. meaning feds will fall further behind. what's different this time is Trump absolutely despises feds. Last time around he didn't know better. but yall got in the way of him accomplishing his agenda (from his point of view). The fact that he wants to fire 75 percent of yall on day #1, I don't see a world where you get equal or better raises than what Biden gave. Now, I'm not silly enough to believe he will actually succeed in firing 75 percent of feds. what I'm saying is his mentality will equal bad raises.

Its not really intellectually honest to compare a cumulative 7.4% under trump 1 to 14.5% under Biden without comparing to inflation over those same periods. (And both should be compounded (ie multiplied) not just added up).

I’m not optimistic under trump 2, but the real risk is inflation. If inflation is high, he can be much more punitive towards feds. (ie when inflation was ~2%, getting a 1% cola was less punishing than getting a 2.5% cola with 7% inflation would be)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

it did not. Under his first administration, feds got 7.4 percent compared to 14.5 under Biden. I think feds need to stop whining.

and while Trump may have given pitiful increases his first administration, I'm convinced it will be nothing or less than his first term. I can see 1% every year. meaning feds will fall further behind. what's different this time is Trump absolutely despises feds. Last time around he didn't know better. but yall got in the way of him accomplishing his agenda (from his point of view). The fact that he wants to fire 75 percent of yall on day #1, I don't see a world where you get equal or better raises than what Biden gave. Now, I'm not silly enough to believe he will actually succeed in firing 75 percent of feds. what I'm saying is his mentality will equal bad raises.

Its not really intellectually honest to compare a cumulative 7.4% under trump 1 to 14.5% under Biden without comparing to inflation over those same periods. (And both should be compounded (ie multiplied) not just added up).

I’m not optimistic under trump 2, but the real risk is inflation. If inflation is high, he can be much more punitive towards feds. (ie when inflation was ~2%, getting a 1% cola was less punishing than getting a 2.5% cola with 7% inflation would be)

+1. The net raise is important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

it did not. Under his first administration, feds got 7.4 percent compared to 14.5 under Biden. I think feds need to stop whining.

and while Trump may have given pitiful increases his first administration, I'm convinced it will be nothing or less than his first term. I can see 1% every year. meaning feds will fall further behind. what's different this time is Trump absolutely despises feds. Last time around he didn't know better. but yall got in the way of him accomplishing his agenda (from his point of view). The fact that he wants to fire 75 percent of yall on day #1, I don't see a world where you get equal or better raises than what Biden gave. Now, I'm not silly enough to believe he will actually succeed in firing 75 percent of feds. what I'm saying is his mentality will equal bad raises.

It’s not really intellectually honest to compare a cumulative 7.4% under trump 1 to 14.5% under Biden without comparing to inflation over those same periods. (And both should be compounded (ie multiplied) not just added up).

It’s also important to include the broader national household income context, since that’s something approximating the market that the federal government has to compete for talent in. During Trump 1 the median income rose roughly 16%, whereas under Biden it grew by more like 18%. So with both the federal scale increase didn’t keep up with the labor market, but it was worse under Trump 1. If we think federal employees are lazy now, what will it be like when the new hires are the people who couldn’t win a better-paying job in the private sector?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not a bad pay raise and it almost keeps up with inflation. I'm just thankful to have a job.

A pay raise that “almost keeps up” is a tiny pay cut, no? I would have made very different decisions had I understood that my Federal career would be twenty years, so far, years of annual pay raises that “almost” or “don’t by a long shot” keep up with inflation.

Have other careers kept up this poorly or is it just us?

It’s just us.

My private sector DH got 4% this year. So I don’t think many employers are fully keeping up with inflation. However, 2% with everything going on is pitiful.

Highest health insurance premium increase in recent history (average of 13.5%), on top of 8% inflation, and an incoming administration that talks nonstop about how much they hate us and want us to lose our jobs. Oh and possible increased commuting expenses.

I think Trump/DOGE are going to meet their goal of getting a lot of Feds to leave. Sorry to the American public that the best performers are going to leave and not be replaced.

I think they need to go after oldies that are sucking up and poor performers.

You are quite ageist, and are you expecting to die young yourself. How tragic, or maybe not.

I love oldies but don't like how they stay in federal positions and not perform. More than 80% of the oldies at my agency are just chillin or barely doing their jobs. What do you say about that? Have some self-respect and stop sucking the tit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

Good or bad, it isn't the same people running Trump in the second administration.

Obama was the least generous to federal employees. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

Good or bad, it isn't the same people running Trump in the second administration.

Obama was the least generous to federal employees. Full stop.

True- over the past 25 years from most to least generous has been:


Bush
Biden
Trump
Obama

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

Good or bad, it isn't the same people running Trump in the second administration.

Obama was the least generous to federal employees. Full stop.

repeat after me! TRUMP ain't giving feds an increase! There will be a pay freeze. and on there chance there is not a freeze, military will get 3% while everyone else gets 1%. THIS IS YOUR LIFE AS A FED! ADJUST!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall about to get hit with a pay freeze for four consecutive years. Be happy that Biden increased federal salaries by 14.5% during his administration.

This didn’t happen during the first Trump administration. Elon et al. don’t play nice and will get on everybody’s nerves and will be let go and it will be business as usual, again.

Good or bad, it isn't the same people running Trump in the second administration.

Obama was the least generous to federal employees. Full stop.

repeat after me! TRUMP ain't giving feds an increase! There will be a pay freeze. and on there chance there is not a freeze, military will get 3% while everyone else gets 1%. THIS IS YOUR LIFE AS A FED! ADJUST!

No

[Anonymous]

I feel badly for govt workers on so many fronts these days but the pay raise whining needs to stop. In the private and non-profit sector, lots of people haven’t seen raises for a while. DH’s company laid people off and he hasn’t had a raise in years while our insurance premium skyrocketed. His flat salary factoring in inflation and insurance is a huge pay cut from pre-2020. It just feels very entitled and gets under my skin when people complain about small raises. At least they’re raises! Focus on what the govt does provide. Job security. Flex hours. Great health insurance. A pension. My govt relatives are in great shape for retirement. I’ve been trying to move to govt for the last year myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not a bad pay raise and it almost keeps up with inflation. I'm just thankful to have a job.

A pay raise that “almost keeps up” is a tiny pay cut, no? I would have made very different decisions had I understood that my Federal career would be twenty years, so far, years of annual pay raises that “almost” or “don’t by a long shot” keep up with inflation.

Have other careers kept up this poorly or is it just us?

It’s just us.

My private sector DH got 4% this year. So I don’t think many employers are fully keeping up with inflation. However, 2% with everything going on is pitiful.

Highest health insurance premium increase in recent history (average of 13.5%), on top of 8% inflation, and an incoming administration that talks nonstop about how much they hate us and want us to lose our jobs. Oh and possible increased commuting expenses.

I think Trump/DOGE are going to meet their goal of getting a lot of Feds to leave. Sorry to the American public that the best performers are going to leave and not be replaced.

I think they need to go after oldies that are sucking up and poor performers.

You are quite ageist, and are you expecting to die young yourself. How tragic, or maybe not.

I love oldies but don't like how they stay in federal positions and not perform. More than 80% of the oldies at my agency are just chillin or barely doing their jobs. What do you say about that? Have some self-respect and stop sucking the tit.

Your anecdotal data isn’t worth much.