B-CC lockdown

[Anonymous]

Let's start stationing National Guard troops in all our schools.

[Anonymous]

Real question for PP(s) who commented that things have changed at BCC—when did you notice this change and what do you think caused it? Obviously a lot of systems and communities broke down during the pandemic and extended MCPS closures, but do you think this is stemming from that or something else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Real question for PP(s) who commented that things have changed at BCC—when did you notice this change and what do you think caused it? Obviously a lot of systems and communities broke down during the pandemic and extended MCPS closures, but do you think this is stemming from that or something else?

More pointedly than PP, did these changes coincide with the coming of this current Principal?

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Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

Source? You probably have inside info and any info that can be shared should be without giving kid's name. The other 2399 students or their families should know before sending kids back to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbor kid said today's BCC lockdown was over 2 hours long and then a shelter in place before school ended for the day. What were police doing for that long?

The threat was called at around 11:30am, lockdown implemented, the police arrived, and I suppose took some time to set-up and confer with admin. Police dog teams cleared each schoolroom and all storage and closets one by one, gave the all clear, and THEN there was a shelter in place, not quite sure why. Dismissal was at the regular time.

It sounds like this first poster has not been inside BCC. It is huge. Frankly, I am surprised they finished the sweep in only two hours.

Yes. Thank you. I’m grateful to the police.

Disgusted by the school board and the PTSA “check your privilege” attitude.

You must be thrilled that the PTSA president announced she will not continue on next year, which is something she had agreed to do when no one else stepped up. Will you volunteer?

I'm very sad the PTSA President is leaving. She did a great job. MCPS has ignored concerns for safety (I know they can't fix it all but they won't address anything)
She gently mentioned that some from a more privileged background may not fully understand why SROs are not always the best idea.
She didn't say this but we know data doesn't support the value of SROs but many don't care. I get it. I'm a middle aged white lady. I would feel better with SROs but it doesn't mean I'd actually be safer.

The person whom she responded to is very vocal about SROs but doesn't really acknowledge the other point of view so the President was trying to help (at least that's how I took it)
Look - the SROs won't save anyone from a bomb. Won't save them from a shooting. What they often do is rough kids up for very minor offenses and then the issue is an MCPD issue rather than an MCPS issue. Typically schools with SROs have a high number of arrests for minorities for offenses that didn't need law enforcement.

The SRO issue aside, I've heard the emails sent to the PTSA were horrific and nobody should have to deal with that - especially for a volunteer job that is really an unpaid full time job.
I couldn't do it and I think those who think the PTSA President has so much power to fix everything should step up and do it.

The SRO debate is truly absurd. What’s the alternative - letting kids walk around with guns, beat each other up? The fact is, kids from high-poverty schools engage in more violence and need the presence of the SROs more. The SROs do not create the violence. SROs are also only one piece of the overall discipline puzzle. My kid goes to a high poverty but very well run school (not MCPS) and they keep that place extremely safe for the kids. Here’s what they do:

- metal detector to enter.
- security guard at entrance
- strict no-phones policy (so no social media fueled fights at school )
- fully staffed behavioral response team to quickly descalate any altercations
- very strict and consistent policies on giving detention/suspension for violence
- very tight control over arrival and dismissal

One thing this school also does is, to the extent possible, remove extreme troublemakers by sending them back to their homeschool if they are attending out of bounds. Not all school districts work that way, but the ability of the school to effectively give alternative placements for some kids uninterested in learning makes a big difference.

What will that do? Let's say kid got to go to a special program in one of the special-program HS, does something terrible at the sprcial-program HS, but now is sent back to their homeschool where they do something terrible there too? Then where will the student be sent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

So clearly the kid ditched the gun. What's the consequence for a kid who has a gun, knows it, flees the building and ditches it, and then comes back to the building?

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Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

So, no school personnel saw the actual weapon? It was a 'if you see it say it' moment? Why do you put all the work on students, MCPs? A firearm on school grounds, and the student returns to school with no consequences? Meanwhile, student who told an adult at school (or elsewhere?!?) is still coming to school? With a bodyguard?

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Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

So, no school personnel saw the actual weapon? It was a 'if you see it say it' moment? Why do you put all the work on students, MCPs? A firearm on school grounds, and the student returns to school with no consequences? Meanwhile, student who told an adult at school (or elsewhere?!?) is still coming to school? With a bodyguard?

What should the consequences be for an accusation you can't prove?

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Anonymous wrote:What is swatting?

I’m a dispatcher. I had one a couple of weeks ago, it’s when someone calls in and makes a fake threat to get a huge police response. Mine pretended he had killed family members at his residence. It was a legitimate address and Police went. The poor homeowners had no idea what was going in.
They call from an untraceable number.

Was the incident a month ago considered swatting?:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1199468.page

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Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

So, no school personnel saw the actual weapon? It was a 'if you see it say it' moment? Why do you put all the work on students, MCPs? A firearm on school grounds, and the student returns to school with no consequences? Meanwhile, student who told an adult at school (or elsewhere?!?) is still coming to school? With a bodyguard?

What should the consequences be for an accusation you can't prove?

I'm not sure. But I also don't think doing nothing when a kid who does what MCPS tells them to do: "if you see something, say something," and nothing happens.

What do you think that kid who did the right thing and told about the gun he saw learns from this? He learns that it's not worth telling adults when you see a kid with a weapon, because the kid can just lie and get away with it. I.e. the system doesn't work. This is a real problem.

[Anonymous]

The problem is that there are too many guns in our society.

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Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

So, no school personnel saw the actual weapon? It was a 'if you see it say it' moment? Why do you put all the work on students, MCPs? A firearm on school grounds, and the student returns to school with no consequences? Meanwhile, student who told an adult at school (or elsewhere?!?) is still coming to school? With a bodyguard?

What should the consequences be for an accusation you can't prove?

DP. Do they use security camera footage to see if that student had a firearm? If it was in a bathroom, they won't, but if kid fled building, they could possibly see in video?

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Anonymous wrote:Ref Mondays incident: gun was only seen by a student. The student who allegedly had the gun left school. He came back willingly. No gun was found.

So, no school personnel saw the actual weapon? It was a 'if you see it say it' moment? Why do you put all the work on students, MCPs? A firearm on school grounds, and the student returns to school with no consequences? Meanwhile, student who told an adult at school (or elsewhere?!?) is still coming to school? With a bodyguard?

What should the consequences be for an accusation you can't prove?

DP. Do they use security camera footage to see if that student had a firearm? If it was in a bathroom, they won't, but if kid fled building, they could possibly see in video?

Should interrogate kid as to why he fled the building if he didn't have a firearm or weapon as he claims....

[Anonymous]

Fled to then an alleged knife incident outside school?

[Anonymous]

What was Thursday's school letter to BCC families?