Interesting Reddit post exposes a big problem modern dating

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some of us married in our 30s because we didn’t settle.


Nah you settled
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was so interesting:



So apparently women think all men are ugly. A thoroughly mid looking woman who rates only a 4-5 is probably looking for a man who is 6-7, which is basically an entire standard deviation or more away from the mean for how women are rating looks for men.

It seems like men evaluate the looks of women much more fairly given that the mean is about a 4/10, which should be expected (5/10). Women seem to have insane expectations for how their partners should look. I guess if you aren't Henry Cavill you're an instant 1 or 2. Modern dating cultures and apps have ruined all expectations, no doubt.


Him and his girlfriend have the same Jaws both very square looks Manish on her
Anonymous
It’s all about money. A woman who works a high paying job really doesn’t need a man for anything. The best relationships are usually when the man works and the woman is at home even if just a few years post baby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, the charts don't mean what people think they mean --

This was originally posted on Reddit. Here is the discussion: "Okay this is interesting. From the data's source article:


Women pursue men they consider worse looking than themselves. This means women don’t necessarily pursue their so-called “looks match”. This is in line with data from old-school dating website hotornot.com, where researchers found that “female members were significantly less influenced by the consensus physical attractiveness of their potential dates than male members were”. Meanwhile, the story for men is completely different.

Men pursue women significantly more beautiful than themselves. Perhaps this seems obvious, Given the widely reported finding that males focus more on physical attractiveness in mate selection than females do. Aslo, men are much less influenced by their own desirability. For instance, one study found that “men’s self-worth was not related to the popularity of the women they contacted”

Which is actually the opposite of the argument many people will take from the comparative attractiveness chart. The argument I have seen before is that the difference in ratings means women's standards are too high."


But the bolded is possible because there are more women who are significantly more attractive than men than vice versa. Women take better care of themselves and put more effort into their looks so men have many women who more attractive than the men are to pursue.

While women date men less attractive than themselves, that steep drop off in the curve is a little too much. Women would rather be single.


This must all be self reported or just perception because I'm not seeing a bunch of seriously mismatched couples anywhere in real life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, the charts don't mean what people think they mean --

This was originally posted on Reddit. Here is the discussion: "Okay this is interesting. From the data's source article:


Women pursue men they consider worse looking than themselves. This means women don’t necessarily pursue their so-called “looks match”. This is in line with data from old-school dating website hotornot.com, where researchers found that “female members were significantly less influenced by the consensus physical attractiveness of their potential dates than male members were”. Meanwhile, the story for men is completely different.

Men pursue women significantly more beautiful than themselves. Perhaps this seems obvious, Given the widely reported finding that males focus more on physical attractiveness in mate selection than females do. Aslo, men are much less influenced by their own desirability. For instance, one study found that “men’s self-worth was not related to the popularity of the women they contacted”

Which is actually the opposite of the argument many people will take from the comparative attractiveness chart. The argument I have seen before is that the difference in ratings means women's standards are too high."


But the bolded is possible because there are more women who are significantly more attractive than men than vice versa. Women take better care of themselves and put more effort into their looks so men have many women who more attractive than the men are to pursue.

While women date men less attractive than themselves, that steep drop off in the curve is a little too much. Women would rather be single.


This must all be self reported or just perception because I'm not seeing a bunch of seriously mismatched couples anywhere in real life.


I see them all the time and it drives me crazy. Lol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Men don’t try. I’m tired of it.


I’m jealous, tbh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was so interesting:



So apparently women think all men are ugly. A thoroughly mid looking woman who rates only a 4-5 is probably looking for a man who is 6-7, which is basically an entire standard deviation or more away from the mean for how women are rating looks for men.

It seems like men evaluate the looks of women much more fairly given that the mean is about a 4/10, which should be expected (5/10). Women seem to have insane expectations for how their partners should look. I guess if you aren't Henry Cavill you're an instant 1 or 2. Modern dating cultures and apps have ruined all expectations, no doubt.
. Men are visual, it’s not surprise they find women more attractive. Women like different things.

At the end of the day just because a man thinks a woman is attractive and will sleep with him doesn’t mean he wants her as a partner.

Single moms for instance, most are for recreational use only, they may be hot and guys will sleep with them, but most guys won’t wife them up. No man wants to continue another man’s saved game because the women he’s sleeping with made bad decisions in the past.

Too much at stake and family courts are a mess. That’s why most women will be unmarried and childless now. Men don’t need marriage to sleep with women as they give it up easily anyways…why by the cow when you get the milk for free and all that.


My friend, back slowly away from the Internet. Maybe try a hike in the woods? You are not OK.


Are you stupid? What part of what she said is not true? I love the apps for booty calls but that’s about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s all about money. A woman who works a high paying job really doesn’t need a man for anything. The best relationships are usually when the man works and the woman is at home even if just a few years post baby.

Absolutely incorrect. That's literally the worst time in relationships.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Attractiveness matters less to women than to men though, resources matter much more. You really think Elon musk is good looking? Men care about looks (because she’s more likely to be fertile and produce healthy offspring) women care about mens resources (because bearing and caring for children is a high resource vulnerability). This is evolutionary biology 101.


If this were true, 13 year old girls would have pictures of Warren Buffet in their lockers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Attractiveness matters less to women than to men though, resources matter much more. You really think Elon musk is good looking? Men care about looks (because she’s more likely to be fertile and produce healthy offspring) women care about mens resources (because bearing and caring for children is a high resource vulnerability). This is evolutionary biology 101.


If this were true, 13 year old girls would have pictures of Warren Buffet in their lockers.


DP.

Ewww. You did not have to go that far to make your point. 😅

Where are the gorgeous women with Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Besos etc? If men only cared about looks and women about money, these men should be getting the most beautiful women, and the most beautiful women should be flocking to them.

Money and looks matter to a certain extent, but they are not all that matters. An ogre looking, smelly billionaire is not getting more beautiful girls than a tall handsome well groomed multi millionaire.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Attractiveness matters less to women than to men though, resources matter much more. You really think Elon musk is good looking? Men care about looks (because she’s more likely to be fertile and produce healthy offspring) women care about mens resources (because bearing and caring for children is a high resource vulnerability). This is evolutionary biology 101.


If this were true, 13 year old girls would have pictures of Warren Buffet in their lockers.


DP.

Ewww. You did not have to go that far to make your point. 😅

Where are the gorgeous women with Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Besos etc? If men only cared about looks and women about money, these men should be getting the most beautiful women, and the most beautiful women should be flocking to them.

Money and looks matter to a certain extent, but they are not all that matters. An ogre looking, smelly billionaire is not getting more beautiful girls than a tall handsome well groomed multi millionaire.


The funny thing about these guys and a quote on how 13 year olds are going too far to make a point..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was so interesting:



So apparently women think all men are ugly. A thoroughly mid looking woman who rates only a 4-5 is probably looking for a man who is 6-7, which is basically an entire standard deviation or more away from the mean for how women are rating looks for men.

It seems like men evaluate the looks of women much more fairly given that the mean is about a 4/10, which should be expected (5/10). Women seem to have insane expectations for how their partners should look. I guess if you aren't Henry Cavill you're an instant 1 or 2. Modern dating cultures and apps have ruined all expectations, no doubt.


What is surprising about this? Go outside and spend 10 minutes looking at the people walking by and tell me your surprised to find out that the average man is uglier than the average woman. I'm a man and this is just obvious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was so interesting:



So apparently women think all men are ugly. A thoroughly mid looking woman who rates only a 4-5 is probably looking for a man who is 6-7, which is basically an entire standard deviation or more away from the mean for how women are rating looks for men.

It seems like men evaluate the looks of women much more fairly given that the mean is about a 4/10, which should be expected (5/10). Women seem to have insane expectations for how their partners should look. I guess if you aren't Henry Cavill you're an instant 1 or 2. Modern dating cultures and apps have ruined all expectations, no doubt.


What is surprising about this? Go outside and spend 10 minutes looking at the people walking by and tell me your surprised to find out that the average man is uglier than the average woman. I'm a man and this is just obvious.


Yeah, as a “man” I’ll leave it to you to evaluate the attractiveness of other men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was so interesting:



So apparently women think all men are ugly. A thoroughly mid looking woman who rates only a 4-5 is probably looking for a man who is 6-7, which is basically an entire standard deviation or more away from the mean for how women are rating looks for men.

It seems like men evaluate the looks of women much more fairly given that the mean is about a 4/10, which should be expected (5/10). Women seem to have insane expectations for how their partners should look. I guess if you aren't Henry Cavill you're an instant 1 or 2. Modern dating cultures and apps have ruined all expectations, no doubt.


What is surprising about this? Go outside and spend 10 minutes looking at the people walking by and tell me your surprised to find out that the average man is uglier than the average woman. I'm a man and this is just obvious.


Yeah, as a “man” I’ll leave it to you to evaluate the attractiveness of other men.


Woman here.

Well, women have evaluated, as seen in the study and you don't seem to believe women either. Lol
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Attractiveness matters less to women than to men though, resources matter much more. You really think Elon musk is good looking? Men care about looks (because she’s more likely to be fertile and produce healthy offspring) women care about mens resources (because bearing and caring for children is a high resource vulnerability). This is evolutionary biology 101.


If this were true, 13 year old girls would have pictures of Warren Buffet in their lockers.


DP.

Ewww. You did not have to go that far to make your point. 😅

Where are the gorgeous women with Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Besos etc? If men only cared about looks and women about money, these men should be getting the most beautiful women, and the most beautiful women should be flocking to them.

Money and looks matter to a certain extent, but they are not all that matters. An ogre looking, smelly billionaire is not getting more beautiful girls than a tall handsome well groomed multi millionaire.


I would take a sexy good looking professional man of my own age anytime over someone like Bezos or other ugly billionaire. when women have their own money they reject ugly men even in case of very large assets differential between potential “contenders”. example: Sophia Vergara rejected Bezos and dates fellow actors and like

We all witnessed that top ugly wealthy men had literally to create a secret sex trafficking scheme to get access to pretty women . Under the disguise of “modeling career” etc
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