Missionaries in foreign countries are crass

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders.

[Anonymous]

I used to be one and I agree. If it makes you feel better, Mormon boys are told that if they don’t do it, they are sort of lesser beings, and Mormon men who haven’t gone on missions are undesirable in the marriage market. So, hate the game, not the player, who in the case of Mormons are teenagers who don’t really know what they’re doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to be one and I agree. If it makes you feel better, Mormon boys are told that if they don’t do it, they are sort of lesser beings, and Mormon men who haven’t gone on missions are undesirable in the marriage market. So, hate the game, not the player, who in the case of Mormons are teenagers who don’t really know what they’re doing.

Missionaries are damaged people, probably mentally ill from your experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be one and I agree. If it makes you feel better, Mormon boys are told that if they don’t do it, they are sort of lesser beings, and Mormon men who haven’t gone on missions are undesirable in the marriage market. So, hate the game, not the player, who in the case of Mormons are teenagers who don’t really know what they’re doing.

Missionaries are damaged people, probably mentally ill from your experience.

Not “damaged”. Just brainwashed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders.

So let's say the religion says to sacrifice children and torture virgin girls before marriage, that is fine with you. Because it's their tradition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be one and I agree. If it makes you feel better, Mormon boys are told that if they don’t do it, they are sort of lesser beings, and Mormon men who haven’t gone on missions are undesirable in the marriage market. So, hate the game, not the player, who in the case of Mormons are teenagers who don’t really know what they’re doing.

Missionaries are damaged people, probably mentally ill from your experience.

Not “damaged”. Just brainwashed.

Then they should not be allowed to do that to anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to be one and I agree. If it makes you feel better, Mormon boys are told that if they don’t do it, they are sort of lesser beings, and Mormon men who haven’t gone on missions are undesirable in the marriage market. So, hate the game, not the player, who in the case of Mormons are teenagers who don’t really know what they’re doing.

Missionaries are damaged people, probably mentally ill from your experience.

lol what? Brainwashed yes, but missions are a big part of the reason Mormon men are disproportionately successful and why they become more responsible earlier in life than other men. If that’s damaged and mentally ill, then I don’t think that damaged and mentally ill is such a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders.

So let's say the religion says to sacrifice children and torture virgin girls before marriage, that is fine with you. Because it's their tradition.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders.

So let's say the religion says to sacrifice children and torture virgin girls before marriage, that is fine with you. Because it's their tradition.

Human rights violations are not ok.

They can defend their borders though.

[Anonymous]

It's mind boggling that there's a subset of people who look at missionary work as a good thing. As if it's commendable. OP is right, it's totally crass and horribly offensive.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about “crass” but it is certainly unethical.

[Anonymous]

Many churches see missions as a real calling. Go forth and spread the Good Word. Different strokes for different folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many churches see missions as a real calling. Go forth and spread the Good Word. Different strokes for different folks.

Hypocrites gonna hypocrite.