Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

My parent recently died of covid, but they had multiple boosters, including one recently.

I’m sorry for your loss. Do you mind sharing how old they were?

They were older, and had covid a few times so it was surprising covid did them in. I'm not doing any more boosters. They aren't stopping transmission.

Yes, it is always shocking when old people die. You're supposed to live forever as long as you don't do anything wrong.

It's shocking when they had Covid several times and were ok, and then all of the sudden got it and died within a week. If it had not been for covid, they would be ok and alive. And they were boosted every six months.

I am so sorry for you and your family.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

Some people are testing but no one is reporting it anymore and many of us never reported it when we had it in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:I had the initial 2 shot series and 2 boosters, and had Covid once in 2021. I’m good. The Covid boosters leave me sick for days and mess up my cycle. I may never get another one.

I get the flu shot because I don’t experience any side effects whatsoever.

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Had the og vaccine and booster, got Covid twice. Incredibly mild both times. Vaccine completely messes with my cycle. At this time, I don’t plan on getting another Covid shot.

Same experience here with all 4 of my covid shots, but I also had cycle disruptions the 2 times I had covid. I understand Novavax doesn't cause the same problems with menstrual cycle, so I am planning to look for it next time I get a covid shot.

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Awesome.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

I actually think you can get free test sent to your house (up to two) by the government

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

Some people are testing but no one is reporting it anymore and many of us never reported it when we had it in the past.

I think you can get tested at an urgent care or doctor’s office if you have symptoms or if you’re concerned you’re an asymptomatic carrier. If so don’t they report to the CDC?

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

I actually think you can get free test sent to your house (up to two) by the government

You can get free ones in the mail a few times a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

Some people are testing but no one is reporting it anymore and many of us never reported it when we had it in the past.

I think you can get tested at an urgent care or doctor’s office if you have symptoms or if you’re concerned you’re an asymptomatic carrier. If so don’t they report to the CDC?

Our doctors will not see us for Covid and send us to the er.

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Anonymous wrote:US public health has totally screwed it up. The focus needs to be on the elderly, esp. those in nursing homes, since that's 90% of the deaths. But instead everything they put out is "ages 6 months and up", implying every age has the same level of risk.

Additionally adding in unsupported messaging, e.g., this will help prevent long covid, or outright untruths, "this will keep you from transmitting to Grandma" continues to turn people off to the vaccine.

Totally agree! I think if the recommendation was "it's important for XYZ groups to get her vaccine," those ppl would pay more attention.

Saying young kids should be on their 4th+ shot just sounds really silly.

+1. I have friends and family in the UK, Germany, Norway, and Japan. Annual boosters are recommended only for at-risk populations in ALL of those countries. The US recommendation really is the outlier and I have a hard time believing that all of those countries are wrong and we're right. Most likely, the actual science doesn't show a clear benefit, but also no clear risks, so countries with a more robust public health system can be more nuanced than in the US.

This is from Germany and is the most logical and concise explanation of the advice I've seen. I've had three rounds of COVID vaccines and it's been in our house three times (only once did the kids and I test positive during the initial Omicron wave). We all get our flu shots and I'm sure we have plenty of immune-boosting environmental exposure to COVID, but until there's clear enough evidence that makes everywhere else change their guidelines, I don't feel the need to put my needle-phobic kids and myself through more boosters.

Basic knowledge
Who is recommended a vaccination?
Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, infection trends have changed greatly. At this point in time, it can be assumed that SARS-CoV-2 is transitioning to an endemic wave-like event. This means that while the virus will continue to circulate within the population, the milder disease progressions of Omicron virus variants and the high immunity within the population on account of vaccination and past infection have resulted in there now being significantly fewer instances of severe illness.

In contrast with earlier virus variants, infections with the Omicron variant also appear to result in fewer cases of long COVID. Furthermore, various studies indicate that full vaccination may provide a certain level of protection against long COVID (Useful information for patients and interested parties).

The Standing Committee on Vaccination (STIKO) has entered its COVID-19 vaccination recommendations in the immunisation schedule for recommended standard vaccinations. Healthy people aged between 18 and 59 years (including pregnant people) are recommended a basic immunisation as well as a booster to build up a basic immunity. It is important that the immune system is exposed to pathogen components (through vaccination) or the pathogen itself (through infection) three times. At least two such exposures should occur through vaccination.

Groups of people who are at increased risk are recommended an additional booster vaccination once a year. The vaccination should be administered with a variant-adapted vaccine and generally at least 12 months after the previous vaccination or infection. Preferably vaccinations should be administered in autumn, so that in case of growing infection rates, vulnerable people still have the best-possible protection in autumn and winter.

This applies to:

All people aged 60 or over
Residents of long-term care facilities
Anyone over the age of 6 months with an underlying condition
People of all ages with an increased infection risk on account of their occupation in medical or long-term care
Family members and close contacts of people for whom the COVID-19 vaccination is unlikely to produce a protective immune response
For people with an immune deficiency and a relevant limited immune response, additional vaccine doses in shorter intervals may be beneficial. Whether additional vaccine doses are needed is determined by the attending physician.

https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/en/coronavirus/faq-covid-19-vaccination

I understand not recommending it but are they saying younger people shouldn’t get it? why get the flu vaccine and not the Covid shot? I get the flu vaccine every year because it has been shown in many cases to give you a milder case even if it doesn’t totally prevent the flu. I have never, not once in my life, been concerned about being hospitalized or dead, because of the flu… I just want a milder case if I get it.

That’s how I feel about Covid, and I would rather have a milder case. I got it once last year about two months after my booster and it was such a mild cold. I can’t help but think that is because I had been vaccinated, especially since I know young healthy people who ended up in the hospital with it prior to vaccination.

I also think vaccine rates are lower than the flu in part because I knew a lot of people who got it COVID this spring or summer and there is solid evidence that most people have natural immunity for many months after, so there’s no need to get the shot right now.

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All the people screaming to get covid shots to not make you an "antivaxxer" are people who don't get side effects from the covid shots, every time, no matter the brand.

After my first booster (2 years ago) I decided I was done. The side effects aren't worth it when compared to how mild covid was when I recently got it for the first time.

Flu shots don't knock me out for 1-2 days, so I'll happily get them. And the flu is way worse than covid, in my experience (and the experience of many others I've talked to).

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

Some people are testing but no one is reporting it anymore and many of us never reported it when we had it in the past.

I think you can get tested at an urgent care or doctor’s office if you have symptoms or if you’re concerned you’re an asymptomatic carrier. If so don’t they report to the CDC?

The thing is most people I know test at home and if it’s negative they go to the dr to test for flu/strep/sinus inf etc.

Nice there they are tested again for COVID.

My college aged kids will go to CVS if sick and get tested without testing at home because they have run through the tests I gave them.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.

Yea and it causes autism too! 🙄

Yeah, that’s not helpful. The myocarditis causation is already established.

But the myocarditis risk from getting covid is significantly higher for those "same young men". That has been established. So get the Novavax if you are that concerned. But not getting the mRNA is also silly if you look at the data---your risk is significantly higher of heart issues from getting covid itself. Science and facts are amazing

DP. You're certainly right that the myocarditis risk is higher from covid itself than from the vaccine, but that doesn't really demonstrate value given that the vaccine doesn't prevent covid. Honest question: is there reasonably good data showing that the myocarditis risk from covid is lower after being vaccinated? And, given that nearly all of us have had covid already, is the myocarditis risk from infection lower after being vaccinated versus having a prior infection?

The vaccine prevents covid. Not 100% but that doesn’t mean 0 either. Why do you keep repeating false info?

It only provides significant protection against infection for a few weeks. PP’s point is that research into the risks & benefits of a booster/annual vax cannot just compare “covid infection” to “annual vax,” because many people will get covid with the vax.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone actually dying from covid anymore?

I just heard that COVID is the 4th leading cause of death in the U.S.

That was for 2022. And that includes deaths where covid was the main driver as well as where it was only a contributory cause.

For 2023, it's not clear that covid will even make the top ten causes of death in the US. Covid deaths fell off sharply once the milder Omicron strain became dominant in early 2022 and are presently near their historical lows. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Is there going to be a post Thanksgiving spike? A holiday time spike? Post Christmas and New Year’s Spike?

Sorry but no. The majority of people aren’t testing anymore. Sure there will Covid but no one is really reporting anymore.

Some people are testing but no one is reporting it anymore and many of us never reported it when we had it in the past.

I think you can get tested at an urgent care or doctor’s office if you have symptoms or if you’re concerned you’re an asymptomatic carrier. If so don’t they report to the CDC?

Our doctors will not see us for Covid and send us to the er.

They won’t see you for Covid but they will see you if you are sick and they will test for Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I say the quiet part out loud? I am not convinced that the mRNA technology is safe. It’s brand new and there are only 3 years of experience with it. We know it risks heart damage for young men. It’s entirely possible that repeated mRNAs could pose a heart risk for more people in the long run. We just do not know and as far as I can tell the research is not being done. We don’t even know if repeated covid vaccination actually reduces risk. There has been research in flu vaccines suggesting that repeated vaccination can actually dampen immune response.

Yea and it causes autism too! 🙄

Yeah, that’s not helpful. The myocarditis causation is already established.

But the myocarditis risk from getting covid is significantly higher for those "same young men". That has been established. So get the Novavax if you are that concerned. But not getting the mRNA is also silly if you look at the data---your risk is significantly higher of heart issues from getting covid itself. Science and facts are amazing

DP. You're certainly right that the myocarditis risk is higher from covid itself than from the vaccine, but that doesn't really demonstrate value given that the vaccine doesn't prevent covid. Honest question: is there reasonably good data showing that the myocarditis risk from covid is lower after being vaccinated? And, given that nearly all of us have had covid already, is the myocarditis risk from infection lower after being vaccinated versus having a prior infection?

The vaccine prevents covid. Not 100% but that doesn’t mean 0 either. Why do you keep repeating false info?

It only provides significant protection against infection for a few weeks. PP’s point is that research into the risks & benefits of a booster/annual vax cannot just compare “covid infection” to “annual vax,” because many people will get covid with the vax.

And people will get the flu with that vax but it’s significantly shorter period of illness, milder symptoms and lessens the likelihood of death.

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Anonymous wrote:Research published in The Lancet medical journal in April 2022 shows that there is no greater risk of developing heart inflammation after a Covid-19 vaccine than after other common vaccines, including the flu jab.

Researchers from Singapore looked at the findings of 22 different studies, covering 405 million doses of different vaccines around the world – including flu, smallpox, polio, measles, mumps and rubella. Overall the rates of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid vaccines weren’t significantly different to other vaccines, including flu, although rates of myocarditis or pericarditis in young men were higher following mRNA-based Covid vaccines such as Moderna or Pfizer.

The researchers, writing in The Lancet medical journal, suggested that the rare cases of post-vaccine myocarditis and pericarditis might be connected to the overall immune response to vaccination, not specifically because of the Covid-19 vaccination or the spike protein it is based on. They suggested that the reports of myocarditis and pericarditis might be because of the large scale of Covid-19 vaccination and the close scrutiny it has had.

Based on these findings, the researchers said that the benefits of Covid-19 vaccines (including a reduced risk of severe illness or death) far outweigh the very small risk of myocarditis or pericarditis, which is also seen for other vaccines.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-your-questions-answered/myocarditis-and-covid-19-vaccines-should-you-be-worried

Notably that is from the UK where the covid annual vax/booster is not recommended for low-risk people. Also the cited study doesn’t stratify for age or look at long-term impacts. The blog post overall makes pretty clear that the research into the cardiac side effects is ongoing.