What is the obsession with UVA for out of staters?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.[b]

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That’s a good comparison. UC Merced is not known on the east coast and UVA is not known on the west coast.

This is such a hilariously sly attack on UVA

-Californian in the DMV

[Anonymous]

When I was growing up in the 1990s, UVA out of state from MD was considered equivalent to going to Vanderbilt or Carnegie Mellon and other schools of that caliber. Same with Chapel Hill, Berkeley and Ann Arbor.

It was seen as a big step up from College Park.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.[b]

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That’s a good comparison. UC Merced is not known on the east coast and UVA is not known on the west coast.

This is such a hilariously sly attack on UVA

-Californian in the DMV

Californian and UCLA grad here, why the need to attack UVA? Childish

[Anonymous]

I’ve lived in the DMV for decades and only know one UC grad. From UC-Davis. A bartender. But I’m not so that I’m gonna draw any conclusions from that.

The hatred of UVA is insane.

[Anonymous]

...I'm the parent of a second year OOS student at UVA. I started visiting the College and University Discussion on DCUM after she was accepted, and man this is a weird and hostile place more times than not.

With that in mind, here's my perspective on why UVA is popular with out of staters (we are from Florida).

- UVA is indeed well known and viewed as prestigious (especially with OOS acceptance). I have friends/colleagues in many different fields (including some very well-connected NY finance folks). The idea that no one out of the mid-Atlantic knows/cares/or has heard of UVA is laughable. I was out visiting old friends in Seattle last spring and mentioned my daughter is going to UVA - everyone knew it and mentioned that it was a great school. It's been in the top 25 university lists for years and years. Good grief.
- Although it's a 'big' state school, it's on the smaller side and gives a mix of big and small schools. It's less than half the undergrad enrollment at UF (where I went). It definitely feels smaller than my college experience.
- Great setting. Beautiful campus in a nice college town (and also relatively easy to get to from DC or Richmond).
- It is cheaper than comparably ranked privates. Tuition is high ~$53K/year, but still cheaper than the comparable privates at $62K or higher.
- Work hard / play hard culture is definitely there. She is consistently challenged and pushed in classes, but still enjoys the weekend fun (she has friends in greek life, but she isn't in it).

...just my two cents.

[Anonymous]

As a parent of an in-state UVA first-year student, the campus is stunningly beautiful.

I studied at Northwestern, widely considered one of the best campuses in US. But, I would like to say UVA is better with its historic architecture and layout. Northwestern is kind of "overpacked".

One of the reasons why we chose UVA.

Anonymous wrote:...I'm the parent of a second year OOS student at UVA. I started visiting the College and University Discussion on DCUM after she was accepted, and man this is a weird and hostile place more times than not.

With that in mind, here's my perspective on why UVA is popular with out of staters (we are from Florida).

- UVA is indeed well known and viewed as prestigious (especially with OOS acceptance). I have friends/colleagues in many different fields (including some very well-connected NY finance folks). The idea that no one out of the mid-Atlantic knows/cares/or has heard of UVA is laughable. I was out visiting old friends in Seattle last spring and mentioned my daughter is going to UVA - everyone knew it and mentioned that it was a great school. It's been in the top 25 university lists for years and years. Good grief.
- Although it's a 'big' state school, it's on the smaller side and gives a mix of big and small schools. It's less than half the undergrad enrollment at UF (where I went). It definitely feels smaller than my college experience.
- Great setting. Beautiful campus in a nice college town (and also relatively easy to get to from DC or Richmond).
- It is cheaper than comparably ranked privates. Tuition is high ~$53K/year, but still cheaper than the comparable privates at $62K or higher.
- Work hard / play hard culture is definitely there. She is consistently challenged and pushed in classes, but still enjoys the weekend fun (she has friends in greek life, but she isn't in it).

...just my two cents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:...I'm the parent of a second year OOS student at UVA. I started visiting the College and University Discussion on DCUM after she was accepted, and man this is a weird and hostile place more times than not.

With that in mind, here's my perspective on why UVA is popular with out of staters (we are from Florida).

- UVA is indeed well known and viewed as prestigious (especially with OOS acceptance). I have friends/colleagues in many different fields (including some very well-connected NY finance folks). The idea that no one out of the mid-Atlantic knows/cares/or has heard of UVA is laughable. I was out visiting old friends in Seattle last spring and mentioned my daughter is going to UVA - everyone knew it and mentioned that it was a great school. It's been in the top 25 university lists for years and years. Good grief.
- Although it's a 'big' state school, it's on the smaller side and gives a mix of big and small schools. It's less than half the undergrad enrollment at UF (where I went). It definitely feels smaller than my college experience.
- Great setting. Beautiful campus in a nice college town (and also relatively easy to get to from DC or Richmond).
- It is cheaper than comparably ranked privates. Tuition is high ~$53K/year, but still cheaper than the comparable privates at $62K or higher.
- Work hard / play hard culture is definitely there. She is consistently challenged and pushed in classes, but still enjoys the weekend fun (she has friends in greek life, but she isn't in it).

...just my two cents.

UVA all in for college of ARts & Sciences (UVA's largest) is only $37K instate, which is why we chose it.

[Anonymous]

I don't know about obsession but when USC is now $92,000 a year, $75-76K for UVA OOS looks pretty darn attractive

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

[b]I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That's why. VA folks apparently don't know much about outside of VA.

And from the PPs from California who say that they had never heard of UVA, apparently CA folks don't know much about places outside of CA.

I’m from CA and this is absolutely true.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

[b]I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That's why. VA folks apparently don't know much about outside of VA.

And from the PPs from California who say that they had never heard of UVA, apparently CA folks don't know much about places outside of CA.

I’m from CA and this is absolutely true.

I'm also from CA, and this is false. If true, how do you explain the 560 Californians there?



No. 68 Californians in the freshman class. 276 total undergraduates. 560 including graduate, law, med etc.
https://ira.virginia.edu/university-data-home/enrollment

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That’s a good comparison. UC Merced is not known on the east coast and UVA is not known on the west coast.

This is such a hilariously sly attack on UVA

-Californian in the DMV

Californian and UCLA grad here, why the need to attack UVA? [b]Childish

Not only childish but a terribly analogy. UC Merced has an admittance rate of 86.6 percent and is a hispanic-serving UC in California. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Merced.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That’s a good comparison. UC Merced is not known on the east coast and UVA is not known on the west coast.

This is such a hilariously sly attack on UVA

-Californian in the DMV

Californian and UCLA grad here, why the need to attack UVA? [b]Childish

Not only childish but a terribly analogy. UC Merced has an admittance rate of 86.6 percent and is a hispanic-serving UC in California. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Merced.

Thanks for stating the obvious 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in NYC and UVA is almost never mentioned. Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, UVM, UCs have more interest. Then MN and OH for merit. Alabama, South Carolina, UTD, Tulsa for free rides. IL for CS. UC Bolder and U of Utah for merit + outdoorsy. Florida bcs there's some grandparent thing?

UVA really far far down on list of OOS public schools here these days. So much so I just inquired with friends about it and nobody had any interest.

I’m in Manhattan and it is very desirable in our private school

I'm from California and literally had never heard of UVA before moving to the East Coast for college in 2000.

No one out west is considering UVA, unless you have some sort of familial ties to the DMV area or the school itself.

I’m from Virginia and had never heard of any of the UC schools except Berkeley and UCLA before reading DCUM.

That’s a good comparison. UC Merced is not known on the east coast and UVA is not known on the west coast.

This is such a hilariously sly attack on UVA

-Californian in the DMV

Californian and UCLA grad here, why the need to attack UVA? [b]Childish

Not only childish but a terribly analogy. UC Merced has an admittance rate of 86.6 percent and is a hispanic-serving UC in California. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Merced.

Thanks for stating the obvious 🙄

Well, you sure didn't and as a DC resident I have no idea what UC Merced is!

[Anonymous]

Same today.

UMD just broke into T50 this year for the first time in history, while UVA has been T25 for decades.

Berkeley is way better than UVA.

Vandy, CMU, Michigan and UNC are peers of UVA.

For in-state VA students, UVA is much harder to get into than Michigan or UNC.

For OOS students, I am not surprised that Michigan or UNC is more favored, given UVA's ridiculous OOS tuition.

Anonymous wrote:When I was growing up in the 1990s, UVA out of state from MD was considered equivalent to going to Vanderbilt or Carnegie Mellon and other schools of that caliber. Same with Chapel Hill, Berkeley and Ann Arbor.

It was seen as a big step up from College Park.

[Anonymous]

It’s really difficult to get into UNC or UVA due to state regs giverning %in-state v. OOS. Michigan is 50-50 in-state v. OOS.
UNC is the most difficult for OOS admission with 10% OOS limit. They love their MD applicants (OOS cash) & private schoolers. Hate VAers unless legacy, Maggie Walker, TJ, Oakton, Langley, McLean…they have their favorites.