Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?

[Anonymous]

Damn.. Uva came in with beer muscles .. and got dropped 😂

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with UMD but Virginia has better affordable options for the highest achievers; it just does. I grew up in Virginia and went to UVA. I would also have been happy at W&M, or at least I considered going there. In-state was what my parents could afford and it was a fantastic deal. My family is in Maryland and I do not want to limit my kids to in-state.

Highest achievers ?

UMD alum

Larry David - Seinfeld
Jim Henson- muppets
David Simon - the wire
Kenny Kramm- FlavorX
Alex Severinsky - hybrid engine
Harry Smith- pulse Doppler radar
Kevin Plank- underarmour
Sergey Brin - Google
George Laurer - the Universal Price Bar Code
Robert Briskman - launched Sirius Satellite
James Clark - soft contact lenses
Robert Fischell- artificial pancreas, flexible artery stents , rechargeable pacemaker

Russell Marker- the octane system
Tim Sweeney- Epic Games / Fortnite
George Danzig- linear programming
Carl Bernstein- Broke Watergate


Much larger achievers and world/culture/economic impact than any UVA grass of modern times. Additionally UMD has more Nobel, Pulitzer, Academy Award, Emmy, Fields medal alumni than all the Virginia schools put together. That’s why it’s in the B1G 10.

UVA is superior academically, although you’re right to call out my “high achieving” wording as narrow-minded.

Superior in the easy majors inferior in the rigorous majors. Explains the lack of B1G alumni world impact.

lol whatever dude.

Not wasting time trying to convince you. No one serious thinks this.

[Anonymous]

NY State blows Virginia out of the water in regards to state schools.

First any family in NY making 125k AGI or less there is zero tuition.

A family making 200k easily qualified after 401k, FSA, Mortgage interest deductions.

NYS has four flag ships. It is valid at 64 State University Schools and 25 CUNY schools.

You could go Baruch in Manhattan no Tuition or StonyBrook on Long Island no tuition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with UMD but Virginia has better affordable options for the highest achievers; it just does. I grew up in Virginia and went to UVA. I would also have been happy at W&M, or at least I considered going there. In-state was what my parents could afford and it was a fantastic deal. My family is in Maryland and I do not want to limit my kids to in-state.

Highest achievers ?

UMD alum

Larry David - Seinfeld
Jim Henson- muppets
David Simon - the wire
Kenny Kramm- FlavorX
Alex Severinsky - hybrid engine
Harry Smith- pulse Doppler radar
Kevin Plank- underarmour
Sergey Brin - Google
George Laurer - the Universal Price Bar Code
Robert Briskman - launched Sirius Satellite
James Clark - soft contact lenses
Robert Fischell- artificial pancreas, flexible artery stents , rechargeable pacemaker

Russell Marker- the octane system
Tim Sweeney- Epic Games / Fortnite
George Danzig- linear programming
Carl Bernstein- Broke Watergate


Much larger achievers and world/culture/economic impact than any UVA grass of modern times. Additionally UMD has more Nobel, Pulitzer, Academy Award, Emmy, Fields medal alumni than all the Virginia schools put together. That’s why it’s in the B1G 10.

UVA is superior academically, although you’re right to call out my “high achieving” wording as narrow-minded.

Superior in the easy majors inferior in the rigorous majors. Explains the lack of B1G alumni world impact.

lol whatever dude.

Not wasting time trying to convince you. No one serious thinks this.

They don’t think it. They know it. UMD ranked higher in all rigorous majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NY State blows Virginia out of the water in regards to state schools.

First any family in NY making 125k AGI or less there is zero tuition.

A family making 200k easily qualified after 401k, FSA, Mortgage interest deductions.

NYS has four flag ships. It is valid at 64 State University Schools and 25 CUNY schools.

You could go Baruch in Manhattan no Tuition or StonyBrook on Long Island no tuition.

California says hi.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with UMD but Virginia has better affordable options for the highest achievers; it just does. I grew up in Virginia and went to UVA. I would also have been happy at W&M, or at least I considered going there. In-state was what my parents could afford and it was a fantastic deal. My family is in Maryland and I do not want to limit my kids to in-state.

Highest achievers ?

UMD alum

Larry David - Seinfeld
Jim Henson- muppets
David Simon - the wire
Kenny Kramm- FlavorX
Alex Severinsky - hybrid engine
Harry Smith- pulse Doppler radar
Kevin Plank- underarmour
Sergey Brin - Google
George Laurer - the Universal Price Bar Code
Robert Briskman - launched Sirius Satellite
James Clark - soft contact lenses
Robert Fischell- artificial pancreas, flexible artery stents , rechargeable pacemaker

Russell Marker- the octane system
Tim Sweeney- Epic Games / Fortnite
George Danzig- linear programming
Carl Bernstein- Broke Watergate


Much larger achievers and world/culture/economic impact than any UVA grass of modern times. Additionally UMD has more Nobel, Pulitzer, Academy Award, Emmy, Fields medal alumni than all the Virginia schools put together. That’s why it’s in the B1G 10.

UVA is superior academically, although you’re right to call out my “high achieving” wording as narrow-minded.

Superior in the easy majors inferior in the rigorous majors. Explains the lack of B1G alumni world impact.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with UMD but Virginia has better affordable options for the highest achievers; it just does. I grew up in Virginia and went to UVA. I would also have been happy at W&M, or at least I considered going there. In-state was what my parents could afford and it was a fantastic deal. My family is in Maryland and I do not want to limit my kids to in-state.

Highest achievers ?

UMD alum

Larry David - Seinfeld
Jim Henson- muppets
David Simon - the wire
Kenny Kramm- FlavorX
Alex Severinsky - hybrid engine
Harry Smith- pulse Doppler radar
Kevin Plank- underarmour
Sergey Brin - Google
George Laurer - the Universal Price Bar Code
Robert Briskman - launched Sirius Satellite
James Clark - soft contact lenses
Robert Fischell- artificial pancreas, flexible artery stents , rechargeable pacemaker

Russell Marker- the octane system
Tim Sweeney- Epic Games / Fortnite
George Danzig- linear programming
Carl Bernstein- Broke Watergate


Much larger achievers and world/culture/economic impact than any UVA grass of modern times. Additionally UMD has more Nobel, Pulitzer, Academy Award, Emmy, Fields medal alumni than all the Virginia schools put together. That’s why it’s in the B1G 10.

UVA is superior academically, although you’re right to call out my “high achieving” wording as narrow-minded.

Superior in the easy majors inferior in the rigorous majors. Explains the lack of B1G alumni world impact.

Not that is word salad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlisted my kid and didn't bother applying to Tech because he's high stat and didn't want to ED. Crossing the Potomac as a CS major...Go Terps!

This right here shows why UVA and UMD aren’t in the same league. UVA in state rejects are getting into UMD out of state.

Population of Maryland 6.2 million UMD flagship UG 30,800 1/4 OOS

Population of Virginia 8.7 million UVA flagship UG 17,000 1/3 OOS

Maryland serves its state’s students much better than Virginia. Bragging about how well qualified students are not being admitted to a public flagship is not anything to be proud of. If I were a taxpayer in Virginia, I would not be pleased with these numbers

UMD doesn't match the options provided by UVA + W&M + VT

Three flagships in Virginia eh? Try harder.

The claim was "Maryland serves its state's students much better than Virginia". It does not.

I was comparing UVA vs UMD, just in case you thought I was referring to the states overall.

[Anonymous]

In the case of UVA, I can’t think of another supposedly top flagship public school that is so weak in STEM.

[Anonymous]

I should have said, so mediocre in STEM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The main reason, at least in the case of Virginia, is that the state didn’t grow their flagship school enough. UVA is too small of a flagship for a state with over 8.5 million people in it. It’s half the size of its peers and isn’t serving the people of Virginia nearly as well as it should.

But you forgot to add in William & Mary. No State public system has something like W&M

Noob here .. can you please let us know what W&M offers that no State public system does ?

A $90k small Slac experience at about $38k all in

Oh, come on. My oldest went there and it is not comparable to a “90k slac experience.” You are grossly overstating it.

Can you elaborate? My rising sr really does want WM. As far as we can tell, it does seem to offer pretty much what the 90k SLACs we’ve toured offer at a much better price. It’s a little bigger ((which has pluses and minuses) but we found it quite similar to the SLACs we’ve seen and actually with a nicer campus than some of them. What do you think you don’t get that they offer? I’m not being argumentative / genuinely curious because we can pay for private and trying to decide if a Richmond or Colby or Bates or Middlebury would really be preferable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with UMD but Virginia has better affordable options for the highest achievers; it just does. I grew up in Virginia and went to UVA. I would also have been happy at W&M, or at least I considered going there. In-state was what my parents could afford and it was a fantastic deal. My family is in Maryland and I do not want to limit my kids to in-state.

Highest achievers ?

UMD alum

Larry David - Seinfeld
Jim Henson- muppets
David Simon - the wire
Kenny Kramm- FlavorX
Alex Severinsky - hybrid engine
Harry Smith- pulse Doppler radar
Kevin Plank- underarmour
Sergey Brin - Google
George Laurer - the Universal Price Bar Code
Robert Briskman - launched Sirius Satellite
James Clark - soft contact lenses
Robert Fischell- artificial pancreas, flexible artery stents , rechargeable pacemaker

Russell Marker- the octane system
Tim Sweeney- Epic Games / Fortnite
George Danzig- linear programming
Carl Bernstein- Broke Watergate


Much larger achievers and world/culture/economic impact than any UVA grass of modern times. Additionally UMD has more Nobel, Pulitzer, Academy Award, Emmy, Fields medal alumni than all the Virginia schools put together. That’s why it’s in the B1G 10.

UVA is superior academically, although you’re right to call out my “high achieving” wording as narrow-minded.

Superior in the easy majors inferior in the rigorous majors. Explains the lack of B1G alumni world impact.

Not that is word salad.

I think that poster is dismissing liberal arts as “easy majors” and I assume that’s because s/he either never studied them at a top university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In state = 13th Grade

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with UMD but Virginia has better affordable options for the highest achievers; it just does. I grew up in Virginia and went to UVA. I would also have been happy at W&M, or at least I considered going there. In-state was what my parents could afford and it was a fantastic deal. My family is in Maryland and I do not want to limit my kids to in-state.

Highest achievers ?

UMD alum

Larry David - Seinfeld
Jim Henson- muppets
David Simon - the wire
Kenny Kramm- FlavorX
Alex Severinsky - hybrid engine
Harry Smith- pulse Doppler radar
Kevin Plank- underarmour
Sergey Brin - Google
George Laurer - the Universal Price Bar Code
Robert Briskman - launched Sirius Satellite
James Clark - soft contact lenses
Robert Fischell- artificial pancreas, flexible artery stents , rechargeable pacemaker

Russell Marker- the octane system
Tim Sweeney- Epic Games / Fortnite
George Danzig- linear programming
Carl Bernstein- Broke Watergate


Much larger achievers and world/culture/economic impact than any UVA grass of modern times. Additionally UMD has more Nobel, Pulitzer, Academy Award, Emmy, Fields medal alumni than all the Virginia schools put together. That’s why it’s in the B1G 10.

That’s why it’s the joke of the B1G 10 you mean. It’s one of the doormats of the conference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The main reason, at least in the case of Virginia, is that the state didn’t grow their flagship school enough. UVA is too small of a flagship for a state with over 8.5 million people in it. It’s half the size of its peers and isn’t serving the people of Virginia nearly as well as it should.

But you forgot to add in William & Mary. No State public system has something like W&M

Noob here .. can you please let us know what W&M offers that no State public system does ?

A $90k small Slac experience at about $38k all in

Oh, come on. My oldest went there and it is not comparable to a “90k slac experience.” You are grossly overstating it.

Can you elaborate? My rising sr really does want WM. As far as we can tell, it does seem to offer pretty much what the 90k SLACs we’ve toured offer at a much better price. It’s a little bigger ((which has pluses and minuses) but we found it quite similar to the SLACs we’ve seen and actually with a nicer campus than some of them. What do you think you don’t get that they offer? I’m not being argumentative / genuinely curious because we can pay for private and trying to decide if a Richmond or Colby or Bates or Middlebury would really be preferable.

Yeah we need substantiation for this claim. When my high achieving in state daughter was looking at colleges and focusing on the liberal arts she researched her options with gusto and was very particular about what she wanted. This was her college list. UVA wasn’t even on it.

Brown
Carleton
College of Wooster
Grinnell
St Mary’s of Maryland
Wesleyan
William & Mary