We chose not to redshirt DS without considering the long-term consequences:

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Anonymous wrote:I know a redshirted kid with a September birthday. He's a math whiz, by which I mean he is a grade ahead in math, and gets pulled into the next grade up for math lessons.

His parents think his math aptitude is confirmation that redshirting was the right choice.

Others might argue that the fact this kid has to move up a grade for math, to the grade he would have been in had he not been redshirted, is proof his redshirting was not needed.

Still others will argue this whole scenario is an argument against grades, that we should all adopt the Montessori practice if multi age classrooms.

No need to hold him back. What is a math wiz? They should be doing mvc or linear algebra for graduation. He’s not ahead, he’s on target. He’d be ahead if he were younger. Are you talking about an elementary kid? You do know it’s normal now to start algebra in 6 or 7th.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a redshirted kid with a September birthday. He's a math whiz, by which I mean he is a grade ahead in math, and gets pulled into the next grade up for math lessons.

His parents think his math aptitude is confirmation that redshirting was the right choice.

Others might argue that the fact this kid has to move up a grade for math, to the grade he would have been in had he not been redshirted, is proof his redshirting was not needed.

Still others will argue this whole scenario is an argument against grades, that we should all adopt the Montessori practice if multi age classrooms.

No need to hold him back. What is a math wiz? They should be doing mvc or linear algebra for graduation. He’s not ahead, he’s on target. He’d be ahead if he were younger. Are you talking about an elementary kid? You do know it’s normal now to start algebra in 6 or 7th.

This is objectively true. However, colleges aren’t going to view it that way. To them, a 16-year-old 10th grader taking Calculus is a 10th grader taking Calculus, not a 16-year-old taking Calculus.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a redshirted kid with a September birthday. He's a math whiz, by which I mean he is a grade ahead in math, and gets pulled into the next grade up for math lessons.

His parents think his math aptitude is confirmation that redshirting was the right choice.

Others might argue that the fact this kid has to move up a grade for math, to the grade he would have been in had he not been redshirted, is proof his redshirting was not needed.

Still others will argue this whole scenario is an argument against grades, that we should all adopt the Montessori practice if multi age classrooms.

No need to hold him back. What is a math wiz? They should be doing mvc or linear algebra for graduation. He’s not ahead, he’s on target. He’d be ahead if he were younger. Are you talking about an elementary kid? You do know it’s normal now to start algebra in 6 or 7th.

Some high schools don’t offer those classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

Yes those kids are only a few weeks apart in age. That's how we end up with so many 18yr old seniors that people like PP refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

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I’m sorry, but there’s no way starting K at 4 had anything to do with him failing pre-calc in JUNIOR year or not graduating college on time. This is a him issue.

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5 years to graduate college..not a big deal I don’t get it

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I’m in NY and the cutoff date is Dec, which is less common across the country where it’s usually in Aug/Sept, so yeah A Nov kid should’ve had an extra year before Kindergarten.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

Yes those kids are only a few weeks apart in age. That's how we end up with so many 18yr old seniors that people like PP refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

OMG. The real question is what is the age difference between the youngest child in the class and the eldest. Don’t be obtuse

Poor families need the free childcare of public school to be able to work so they tend to “ green shirt” their kids ie send them as early as possible so possibly 4 to K. Middle class families want to get every advantage that they can get so redshirt to make sure their kid is the eldest, so possibly 6 . The consequence is that the real time gap between the youngest and eldest in the classroom is over 12 months. Malcolm Gladwells research concluded that even in a 12 month age range there is a significant advantage to being on the older side academically and athletically so common sense should tell you that increasing that 12 month gap further will exacerbate the inequality.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

Yes those kids are only a few weeks apart in age. That's how we end up with so many 18yr old seniors that people like PP refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

OMG. The real question is what is the age difference between the youngest child in the class and the eldest. Don’t be obtuse

Poor families need the free childcare of public school to be able to work so they tend to “ green shirt” their kids ie send them as early as possible so possibly 4 to K. Middle class families want to get every advantage that they can get so redshirt to make sure their kid is the eldest, so possibly 6 . The consequence is that the real time gap between the youngest and eldest in the classroom is over 12 months. Malcolm Gladwells research concluded that even in a 12 month age range there is a significant advantage to being on the older side academically and athletically so common sense should tell you that increasing that 12 month gap further will exacerbate the inequality.

4yr olds don’t belong in kindergarten. NY is completely behind the times. I don’t blame parents for doing the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a redshirted kid with a September birthday. He's a math whiz, by which I mean he is a grade ahead in math, and gets pulled into the next grade up for math lessons.

His parents think his math aptitude is confirmation that redshirting was the right choice.

Others might argue that the fact this kid has to move up a grade for math, to the grade he would have been in had he not been redshirted, is proof his redshirting was not needed.

Still others will argue this whole scenario is an argument against grades, that we should all adopt the Montessori practice if multi age classrooms.

No need to hold him back. What is a math wiz? They should be doing mvc or linear algebra for graduation. He’s not ahead, he’s on target. He’d be ahead if he were younger. Are you talking about an elementary kid? You do know it’s normal now to start algebra in 6 or 7th.

This is objectively true. However, colleges aren’t going to view it that way. To them, a 16-year-old 10th grader taking Calculus is a 10th grader taking Calculus, not a 16-year-old taking Calculus.

A young for the grade would be just turning 16 in 11th. There is a big difference when most of the calc students are in 11 or 12.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

Yes those kids are only a few weeks apart in age. That's how we end up with so many 18yr old seniors that people like PP refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

OMG. The real question is what is the age difference between the youngest child in the class and the eldest. Don’t be obtuse

Poor families need the free childcare of public school to be able to work so they tend to “ green shirt” their kids ie send them as early as possible so possibly 4 to K. Middle class families want to get every advantage that they can get so redshirt to make sure their kid is the eldest, so possibly 6 . The consequence is that the real time gap between the youngest and eldest in the classroom is over 12 months. Malcolm Gladwells research concluded that even in a 12 month age range there is a significant advantage to being on the older side academically and athletically so common sense should tell you that increasing that 12 month gap further will exacerbate the inequality.

4yr olds don’t belong in kindergarten. NY is completely behind the times. I don’t blame parents for doing the right thing.

They are turning five within a few weeks. Yes they do. The advantage is having a iq and support at home. My kids were reading by age three.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

Yes those kids are only a few weeks apart in age. That's how we end up with so many 18yr old seniors that people like PP refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

OMG. The real question is what is the age difference between the youngest child in the class and the eldest. Don’t be obtuse

Poor families need the free childcare of public school to be able to work so they tend to “ green shirt” their kids ie send them as early as possible so possibly 4 to K. Middle class families want to get every advantage that they can get so redshirt to make sure their kid is the eldest, so possibly 6 . The consequence is that the real time gap between the youngest and eldest in the classroom is over 12 months. Malcolm Gladwells research concluded that even in a 12 month age range there is a significant advantage to being on the older side academically and athletically so common sense should tell you that increasing that 12 month gap further will exacerbate the inequality.

4yr olds don’t belong in kindergarten. NY is completely behind the times. I don’t blame parents for doing the right thing.

They are turning five within a few weeks. Yes they do. The advantage is having a iq and support at home. My kids were reading by age three.

Many disagree with you. It’s not a race.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you give your son a handmade excuse for every failure. It's not your fault you didn't study for your math test; mommy didn't consider how lazy you'd be 11 years ago when she shipped you to Kindy!

Going to school on time is not why he took an extra year to graduate college. Possibly being raised by parents who told him, "it's not your fault, you're 3 months younger than your BFF how can you be held to the same standard??!" is the reason, though.

Three months can make a big difference when you’re a kid.

There will always be three month differences with kids in school! No, it’s not a big difference once they are past preschool. Not at all.

Ok but then the 3 months older a redshirted August kid is to an on-time October kid equally makes no difference.

That would be a 14-month difference.

No, a redshirted August kindergartener turns six the first week of school. The on time October birthday turns six the 8th-12th week of school.

Yes those kids are only a few weeks apart in age. That's how we end up with so many 18yr old seniors that people like PP refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

January to June would be 18 year only normal seniors. But they are 17-18. 18-19 should be in college. It’s not fun for them being that old while their peers are in college and they are stuck in hs. So many are worried about maturity but you are making your kids less mature when you compare them with students a year or more younger

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a redshirted kid with a September birthday. He's a math whiz, by which I mean he is a grade ahead in math, and gets pulled into the next grade up for math lessons.

His parents think his math aptitude is confirmation that redshirting was the right choice.

Others might argue that the fact this kid has to move up a grade for math, to the grade he would have been in had he not been redshirted, is proof his redshirting was not needed.

Still others will argue this whole scenario is an argument against grades, that we should all adopt the Montessori practice if multi age classrooms.

No need to hold him back. What is a math wiz? They should be doing mvc or linear algebra for graduation. He’s not ahead, he’s on target. He’d be ahead if he were younger. Are you talking about an elementary kid? You do know it’s normal now to start algebra in 6 or 7th.

Some high schools don’t offer those classes.

Correct, ours does not and yet we managed to figure it out, so why couldn’t you.