MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday

[Anonymous]

The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

[Anonymous]

Where were these theatrics when mcea was spineless cutting teachers with no protections and non renewing contracts of teachers who were working way beyond contract hours with the most needy (and dangerous) populations. They talk a big game but when it matters they show themselves as weak then complain that no one wants to teach. Well I paid alot of money for nothing it seems when a union is two faced money grabbing lame ducks.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

It seems like a stretch to blame the government for whether some kids choose to study or prioritize education. People have free well and public schools for the most part provide the same opportunities to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

The government absolutely did play a massive role, and most of those laws have been abolished. However, systemic disparities remain that the government will not be able to undo without creating a massive nanny state. And even then, it may not work. Because people are individuals with free will and may make choices that do not help improve their own outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

The government absolutely did play a massive role, and most of those laws have been abolished. However, systemic disparities remain that the government will not be able to undo without creating a massive nanny state. And even then, it may not work. Because people are individuals with free will and may make choices that do not help improve their own outcomes.

After 100+ years, it may be time for people to take some personal responsibility and stop blaming others.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

The government absolutely did play a massive role, and most of those laws have been abolished. However, systemic disparities remain that the government will not be able to undo without creating a massive nanny state. And even then, it may not work. Because people are individuals with free will and may make choices that do not help improve their own outcomes.

After 100+ years, it may be time for people to take some personal responsibility and stop blaming others.

It hasn't been 100+ years, don't be obtuse

[Anonymous]

Also I am not sure how you equate reparations to a "nanny state"

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

The government absolutely did play a massive role, and most of those laws have been abolished. However, systemic disparities remain that the government will not be able to undo without creating a massive nanny state. And even then, it may not work. Because people are individuals with free will and may make choices that do not help improve their own outcomes.

After 100+ years, it may be time for people to take some personal responsibility and stop blaming others.

It hasn't been 100+ years, don't be obtuse

Not only has it not been 100 + years but many of the positive changes that we see in society have been because the marginalize took personal responsibility and then some to ensure as a society we progressed forward. They are now asking that as we move forward we not leave behind those that society marginalized.

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Anonymous wrote:Natali Fani-Gonzalez also tore them up about the piss poor literacy rates:

She said they ARE NOT closing the Achievement Gap, despite this being Monifa's supposed top priority. She went after Bench from a literacy curriculum perspective.

Because the achievement gap exists because of factors outside of MCPS control, no amount of money can fix this. Instead, they just dumb down classes to pretend they've made progress.

That's true about everything government touches, and the huge failure of the county's racial equity law. The law and the entire machine the county has built to do equity work focus solely on equitable outcomes, rather than understanding that many contributing factors are outside government's control. We need to focus on making governmental systems fair, but not judge that fairness based on precisely equal outcomes. Instead, look for progress across the board.

That's not the problem. Government can be very effective. Examples include the Manhattan Project and the Apollo Missions.

The problem with equity is people have different goals and values. Pretending that everyone wants the same outcome is doomed to failure.

I'm discussing government's role in closing outcome disparities by race and ethnicity. It is not effective in closing gaps because there are too many external confounding factors that lead to the disparities in the first place.

Wjat is happening is that the government played a massive role in creating the disparities and the electorate is unwilling to fund reparations that would actually address them.

The government absolutely did play a massive role, and most of those laws have been abolished. However, systemic disparities remain that the government will not be able to undo without creating a massive nanny state. And even then, it may not work. Because people are individuals with free will and may make choices that do not help improve their own outcomes.

After 100+ years, it may be time for people to take some personal responsibility and stop blaming others.

It hasn't been 100+ years, don't be obtuse

Not only has it not been 100 + years but many of the positive changes that we see in society have been because the marginalize took personal responsibility and then some to ensure as a society we progressed forward. They are now asking that as we move forward we not leave behind those that society marginalized.

I agree. That's why I firmly believe schools should make the same opportunities available to everyone. Dumbing down classes to claim we've fixed the achievement gap isn't helping anyone. It's patronizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing that resonated was the fact that teachers are highly criticized with their planning but it is taken away many times unpaid by the demand for subs. So we naturally fill the hole but then admin ticks us all the time on our plans when the time was given up free for the "do it for the kids" bs. Well who is doing right by the teachers.

I think back about how I tried so hard to keep my job, jumped through all the hoops, to be a teacher. I heard the horror stories and I chose to be a teacher anyway. I don't know what I was thinking.

So, you’re saying we should raise the ridiculously low compensation for subs rather than increasing the pay of teachers making six figures?