No surprise - Clarence Thomas is completely corrupt

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: People - even Supreme Court Justices - are friends with and vacation with people who are like-minded. Some of them are even wealthy!!!
Shocker!!!

Vacationing with people who are likeminded is one thing. Having those friends pay every cent of your luxurious vacation is quite another. I don’t vacation on my friends’ dimes …. Particularly not to the tune of $500,000 a vacation.

Agree 100% I have never had any friend pay or subsidize my vacation expenses to Justice Corrupt's extent. Even when I am invited to a beach house, I make sure to bring an expensive bottle of wine and/or pay for dinner out at the beach. I would not even dream about accepting this sort of vacation. [And I certainly have plenty of friends in the top 1%.] Justice Thomas is simply corrupt.

How do you know he didn't reciprocate with gifts?

please be serious.

The op has unwittingly hit on why Thomas’s corruption is so rotting to the country. He did reciprocate - with decisions beneficial to Crow and the far right interests Crow represents.

That poster brought up an expensive bottle of wine, but yeah that's totally outside of the realm of possibility for CT to give to a friend.

If you don’t think the reciprocation calculus changes from some nobody (sorry, PP, you’re not a nobody, you’re just not on the SC) who has rich friends to the situation in which a SCJ has a friendship magically cultivated by a billionaire who just happens to be involved in all these groups who put court cases before the judge. #samesies

This dude is super rich. All of these expenses are chumps change to him.

When people are talking division of labor or expenses in the household, don't think like to calibrate it by percentage of income or available free time? Similar concept here. It's the the thought and effort brought to the friendship.

Was the justice taking random trips that Crow wasn't involved in and milking it like that? Seems like the travel expenses were in the interest of spending time together.

Congratulations, you’ve missed the point. Everyone knows these expenses are chump change to the billionaire. The expenses are NOT chump change to the equally corrupt chump on the bench though, thus guaranteeing Clarence’s obedience and favors in all rulings. And we already know that Clarence doesn’t recuse. He even presided over a case affecting his traitor wife (and since not a one of you RWNJs follows the news, she helped plan the insurrection. That makes her, literally, a traitor).

Whoosh. You've just devalued the low paying job wife's contribution to the house because her time isn't "worth as much" as her Managing Director husband.

Lol. No, I haven’t, and if that’s the issue upon which your argument hinges… yikes.

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Reciprocal exchange of gifts commensurate with financial wherewithal to furnish such gifts = indicia of genuine personal friendship.

You can make as many noises as you wish; you’re still missing the point.

You can keep repeating that as many times as you wish, you're still missing the point.

I’m a different poster and certainly don’t get your point.

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As true today as it was then.....

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Anonymous wrote:CT has spoken. Says he was advised that personal hospitality didn't need to be disclosed, but he will start to comply with the newly revised guidance that closes the personal hospitality loophole next year.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3939159-clarence-thomas-said-he-was-advised-he-didnt-have-to-disclose-trips-paid-for-by-gop-donor/

That’s BS. He WAS disclosing it earlier in his tenure but then he stopped.

He says 25 years. That would mean they weren't friends when he first joined the court.

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I think the PP who posted Heather Cox Richardson’s post had a Chris Murphy quote in it that Crow only sought out Thomas after he made it onto the court. Blatant corruption.

So in your view, there would've been no way for Thomas to form a genuine friendship and personal relationship with someone as rich as Crow?

Let's just assume these guys are soulmates. Thomas would love to just hang out with Crow at Walmarts and barbeques and whatnot but Crow has more exotic tastes. Thomas has no choice but to go along with these lavish accommodations. The alternative would be a painful, unendurable separation from his dear, dear friend. In that situation, Thomas should recuse himself from cases involving Crow, the companies from which he benefits, and the causes for which he advocates.

Gotcha, has anyone identified which cases Thomas should've recused himself from in which Crow had interests?

Another issue I have heard is spouses who work or associate with law firms that have Supreme Court practices that come before the courts. Should those Justices similarly recuse themselves?

Thomas should have just paid his own way. If he cannot afford to do that, he cannot afford to go (just like the vast majority of Americans)

Thanks. So you know about which cases or nah?

It doesn't matter. No federal employee should be accepting huge gifts from anybody. They should live off their salary.

Fully agree. How did the Bidens get so wealthy again?

He sold a lot of books: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-book-sales-declined-during-his-first-year-in-office-11652483247

Yeah, that’s how he did it

If you don’t think so you can check his tax returns.
https://joebiden.com/financial-disclosure/#

You are your pesky facts.

It shows $9M from a company. Doesn’t show what that company paid him for. Access?

What company? Which return? Which year?

2017 on the schedule E.

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Anonymous wrote:As true today as it was then.....

It's left wing to criticize corruption and lack of ethics in the judiciary? Huh.

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Thomases' wealthy friend is also an avid collector of Hitler memorabilia.

Harlan Crow, the billionaire Republican donor who we learned this week has gifted hundreds of thousands of dollars in luxury travel to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas (which Thomas did not disclose), has filled his property with Nazi memorabilia and Hitler artifacts and has a garden full of dictator sculptures, the Washingtonian reports. The artifacts reportedly include two of Hitler’s paintings and a signed copy of the Nazi dictator’s manifesto, Mein Kampf.

A source the Washingtonian spoke with who had visited Harlan’s Texas home told the magazine that the evening was “just strange—they had family photos in one room, then all this WWII stuff in another room, and dictators in the backyard.” Cool, cool.

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This seems pretty illegal.

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Anonymous wrote:As true today as it was then.....

It's left wing to criticize corruption and lack of ethics in the judiciary? Huh.

The right wing keeps telling on itself, doesn’t it?

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Anonymous wrote:As true today as it was then.....

It's left wing to criticize corruption and lack of ethics in the judiciary? Huh.

Corruption is a right wing value.

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Anonymous wrote:CT has spoken. Says he was advised that personal hospitality didn't need to be disclosed, but he will start to comply with the newly revised guidance that closes the personal hospitality loophole next year.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3939159-clarence-thomas-said-he-was-advised-he-didnt-have-to-disclose-trips-paid-for-by-gop-donor/

That’s BS. He WAS disclosing it earlier in his tenure but then he stopped.

He says 25 years. That would mean they weren't friends when he first joined the court.

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I think the PP who posted Heather Cox Richardson’s post had a Chris Murphy quote in it that Crow only sought out Thomas after he made it onto the court. Blatant corruption.

So in your view, there would've been no way for Thomas to form a genuine friendship and personal relationship with someone as rich as Crow?

Let's just assume these guys are soulmates. Thomas would love to just hang out with Crow at Walmarts and barbeques and whatnot but Crow has more exotic tastes. Thomas has no choice but to go along with these lavish accommodations. The alternative would be a painful, unendurable separation from his dear, dear friend. In that situation, Thomas should recuse himself from cases involving Crow, the companies from which he benefits, and the causes for which he advocates.

Gotcha, has anyone identified which cases Thomas should've recused himself from in which Crow had interests?

Another issue I have heard is spouses who work or associate with law firms that have Supreme Court practices that come before the courts. Should those Justices similarly recuse themselves?

Thomas should have just paid his own way. If he cannot afford to do that, he cannot afford to go (just like the vast majority of Americans)

Thanks. So you know about which cases or nah?

It doesn't matter. No federal employee should be accepting huge gifts from anybody. They should live off their salary.

Fully agree. How did the Bidens get so wealthy again?

He sold a lot of books: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-book-sales-declined-during-his-first-year-in-office-11652483247

Yeah, that’s how he did it

If you don’t think so you can check his tax returns.
https://joebiden.com/financial-disclosure/#

You are your pesky facts.

It shows $9M from a company. Doesn’t show what that company paid him for. Access?

Book royalties, and payments made as an advance against royalties, generate a 1099-MISC that gets reported to the IRS on Schedule E. There is a corresponding accounting of what was sold and what the author's take is.

I haven't looked at the returns, but it is highly unlikely that he's hiding payments for access on a Schedule E corresponding to the sale of books including on at least one title that was (let's not forget) actually a NYT Bestseller.

Troll.

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There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

You do know that after WWII, lots of people displayed Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory. It is not unusual for that to occur in wars. Japanese swords, hats, etc, were also trophies. It does not mean he admires Nazis. You are really grasping here.


Gee, and the horrors of donating money to libraries in poor communities. How awful!

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

You do know that after WWII, lots of people displayed Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory. It is not unusual for that to occur in wars. Japanese swords, hats, etc, were also trophies. It does not mean he admires Nazis. You are really grasping here.


Gee, and the horrors of donating money to libraries in poor communities. How awful!

While what you type is true, that isn't the context in this circumstance as documented by many others who have also been at this house/museum.

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by way of comparison

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Anonymous wrote:by way of comparison

Begs the question which of the courts personnel/his colleagues told him that it wasn't necessary to disclose these gifts because it looks like everybody else understood the intent of disclosure

I'd honestly believe him more if he said I get so many gifts I couldn't keep track anymore that's why I stopped that would at least be partially honest

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

You do know that after WWII, lots of people displayed Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory. It is not unusual for that to occur in wars. Japanese swords, hats, etc, were also trophies. It does not mean he admires Nazis. You are really grasping here.

Gee, and the horrors of donating money to libraries in poor communities. How awful!

Nope, my dad brought home memorabilia from Nazi Germany and I destroyed it after he died, in order that people like Cox would.not be able to get their hands on it to glorify racism with their display. Like Cox.

The people displaying this now are likely fascists, not the brave men who fought against fascism.

It's telling republicans are beholden to these guys.