Are TJ college admissions a mess this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how many admittances there were from TJ (includes all the cross admits) at these schools?

You won't get any good, reliable answers to this question. Nobody collates these. TJ itself doesn't know.

If you really want to get a feel, the best resource is the internal TJ senior survey on the intranet. If you have a student at TJ, they'll be able to access. That self-reported survey (different from the TJToday senior edition survey for publication) is completely self-reported but allows the senior to disclose where else they got admitted to (if they want to), their GPA, their SAT/ACT. Meant to help the succeeding graduating classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Updated numbers:

5 Harvard
3 Yale
6 Princeton
5 MIT
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 UPenn
17 Michigan
13 CMU
14 Chicago
11 Cornell
2 CIT
2 UCLA
4 UC Berkeley
2 Dartmouth
8 Duke
8 NYU
4 USC
3 Emory
2 Brown
5 Georgetown
1 Vanderbilt
2 Notre Dame
1 Rice
4 Johns Hopkins
3 Northwestern

In Virginia,
49 UVA
28 William and Mary
24 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

is this mess compared to previous year's admissions?

It is compared to 10-15 years ago. Back then, TJ typically had 20+ acceptances to MIT each year, 17+ to Princeton, 9+ for Yale, Harvard etc.

There are so many other factors beyond TJ that you can't come to this conclusion. 15 years ago Fairfax County was *the* prime location near the federal government. It still is, but there are plenty of new tech-oriented metro centers that are stealing away wealthy families who otherwise would have moved here to go to TJ. Raleigh, Austin, Huntsville, Phoenix, just to name a few.

TJ will never again have the concentration of high-achieving, wealthy, post-grad educated families that it once had because wealthy tech families have spread out. That fact alone means other high schools will "take away" acceptances from TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did not the supreme court just reject race-based admission?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is the difference between "a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds" and "mostly excellent students from a single background"?

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

The colleges want more racial diversity, and now they have a larger selection to choose from at TJ.

I am still puzzled as to why we treat Indians, Pakistanis, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodians, etc. as a single racial group.

We treat Greeks, Irish, Saudis, French and English all the same group as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Updated numbers:

5 Harvard
3 Yale
6 Princeton
5 MIT
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 UPenn
17 Michigan
13 CMU
14 Chicago
11 Cornell
2 CIT
2 UCLA
4 UC Berkeley
2 Dartmouth
8 Duke
8 NYU
4 USC
3 Emory
2 Brown
5 Georgetown
1 Vanderbilt
2 Notre Dame
1 Rice
4 Johns Hopkins
3 Northwestern

In Virginia,
49 UVA
28 William and Mary
24 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

is this mess compared to previous year's admissions?

It is compared to 10-15 years ago. Back then, TJ typically had 20+ acceptances to MIT each year, 17+ to Princeton, 9+ for Yale, Harvard etc.

There are so many other factors beyond TJ that you can't come to this conclusion. 15 years ago Fairfax County was *the* prime location near the federal government. It still is, but there are plenty of new tech-oriented metro centers that are stealing away wealthy families who otherwise would have moved here to go to TJ. Raleigh, Austin, Huntsville, Phoenix, just to name a few.

TJ will never again have the concentration of high-achieving, wealthy, post-grad educated families that it once had because wealthy tech families have spread out. That fact alone means other high schools will "take away" acceptances from TJ.

In the cases you described it would be the high-schools out of state (Raleigh, Austin, Huntsville, Phoenix, etc.). Current situation is the local FCPS high schools (compared to Loudon, Arlington, and of course PW) are "stealing" more students from TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Updated numbers:

5 Harvard
3 Yale
6 Princeton
5 MIT
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 UPenn
17 Michigan
13 CMU
14 Chicago
11 Cornell
2 CIT
2 UCLA
4 UC Berkeley
2 Dartmouth
8 Duke
8 NYU
4 USC
3 Emory
2 Brown
5 Georgetown
1 Vanderbilt
2 Notre Dame
1 Rice
4 Johns Hopkins
3 Northwestern

In Virginia,
49 UVA
28 William and Mary
24 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

is this mess compared to previous year's admissions?

It is compared to 10-15 years ago. Back then, TJ typically had 20+ acceptances to MIT each year, 17+ to Princeton, 9+ for Yale, Harvard etc.

There are so many other factors beyond TJ that you can't come to this conclusion. 15 years ago Fairfax County was *the* prime location near the federal government. It still is, but there are plenty of new tech-oriented metro centers that are stealing away wealthy families who otherwise would have moved here to go to TJ. Raleigh, Austin, Huntsville, Phoenix, just to name a few.

TJ will never again have the concentration of high-achieving, wealthy, post-grad educated families that it once had because wealthy tech families have spread out. That fact alone means other high schools will "take away" acceptances from TJ.

In the cases you described it would be the high-schools out of state (Raleigh, Austin, Huntsville, Phoenix, etc.). Current situation is the local FCPS high schools (compared to Loudon, Arlington, and of course PW) are "stealing" more students from TJ.

Ah, what I meant was that high schools in those other attractive metro areas are taking up elite college acceptance spots that would otherwise have belonged to TJ. Northern VA and TJ no longer have a monopoly on the best STEM-obsessed families. They're sharing a piece of the pie with other regions and that is leading to decreased dominance in TJ elite college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how many admittances there were from TJ (includes all the cross admits) at these schools?

You won't get any good, reliable answers to this question. Nobody collates these. TJ itself doesn't know.

If you really want to get a feel, the best resource is the internal TJ senior survey on the intranet. If you have a student at TJ, they'll be able to access. That self-reported survey (different from the TJToday senior edition survey for publication) is completely self-reported but allows the senior to disclose where else they got admitted to (if they want to), their GPA, their SAT/ACT. Meant to help the succeeding graduating classes.

TJ used to publish accepted numbers by institution in a flyer, but they stopped that a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how many admittances there were from TJ (includes all the cross admits) at these schools?

You won't get any good, reliable answers to this question. Nobody collates these. TJ itself doesn't know.

If you really want to get a feel, the best resource is the internal TJ senior survey on the intranet. If you have a student at TJ, they'll be able to access. That self-reported survey (different from the TJToday senior edition survey for publication) is completely self-reported but allows the senior to disclose where else they got admitted to (if they want to), their GPA, their SAT/ACT. Meant to help the succeeding graduating classes.

TJ used to publish accepted numbers by institution in a flyer, but they stopped that a few years ago.

Because these stats had been in decline for years since admission was more about prep than talent, but I'm guessing they will turn around with the new criteria making talent their priority rather than family income.

[Anonymous]

Oh puhleeez, my kid takes tests cold, no prep. Guvvie family, no cash money here. Enough with your sweeping generalizations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Updated numbers:

5 Harvard
3 Yale
6 Princeton
5 MIT
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 UPenn
17 Michigan
13 CMU
14 Chicago
11 Cornell
2 CIT
2 UCLA
4 UC Berkeley
2 Dartmouth
8 Duke
8 NYU
4 USC
3 Emory
2 Brown
5 Georgetown
1 Vanderbilt
2 Notre Dame
1 Rice
4 Johns Hopkins
3 Northwestern

In Virginia,
49 UVA
28 William and Mary
24 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

is this mess compared to previous year's admissions?

It is compared to 10-15 years ago. Back then, TJ typically had 20+ acceptances to MIT each year, 17+ to Princeton, 9+ for Yale, Harvard etc.

MIT has been reducing the number of students it accepts and bragging about the high number of different high schools they come from.

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/mit-regular-action-decisions-now-available-online-6/

It’s not all within TJ’s control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Updated numbers:

5 Harvard
3 Yale
6 Princeton
5 MIT
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 UPenn
17 Michigan
13 CMU
14 Chicago
11 Cornell
2 CIT
2 UCLA
4 UC Berkeley
2 Dartmouth
8 Duke
8 NYU
4 USC
3 Emory
2 Brown
5 Georgetown
1 Vanderbilt
2 Notre Dame
1 Rice
4 Johns Hopkins
3 Northwestern

In Virginia,
49 UVA
28 William and Mary
24 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

Very impressive.

[Anonymous]

Where are the other TJ students going to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Updated numbers:

5 Harvard
3 Yale
6 Princeton
5 MIT
3 Stanford
4 Columbia
5 UPenn
17 Michigan
13 CMU
14 Chicago
11 Cornell
2 CIT
2 UCLA
4 UC Berkeley
2 Dartmouth
8 Duke
8 NYU
4 USC
3 Emory
2 Brown
5 Georgetown
1 Vanderbilt
2 Notre Dame
1 Rice
4 Johns Hopkins
3 Northwestern

In Virginia,
49 UVA
28 William and Mary
24 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

is this mess compared to previous year's admissions?

It is compared to 10-15 years ago. Back then, TJ typically had 20+ acceptances to MIT each year, 17+ to Princeton, 9+ for Yale, Harvard etc.

MIT has been reducing the number of students it accepts and bragging about the high number of different high schools they come from.

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/mit-regular-action-decisions-now-available-online-6/

It’s not all within TJ’s control.

That's not a bad thing at all. These new policies by elite colleges to reach deep across all corners of the US is beneficial for the development and progress of the entire country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are the other TJ students going to college?

Usually there are 1or 2 going to West Point, Annapolis and other service academies, 1 or 2 to Oxford/Cambridge, 1 or 2 to European/Asian universities and several usually attend Illinois, Washington, Texas, Florida, Indiana, Purdue, RPI, NC, UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the other TJ students going to college?

Usually there are 1or 2 going to West Point, Annapolis and other service academies, 1 or 2 to Oxford/Cambridge, 1 or 2 to European/Asian universities and several usually attend Illinois, Washington, Texas, Florida, Indiana, Purdue, RPI, NC, UMD.

Great that TJ grads go on to Service Academies. Future leaders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the other TJ students going to college?

Usually there are 1or 2 going to West Point, Annapolis and other service academies, 1 or 2 to Oxford/Cambridge, 1 or 2 to European/Asian universities and several usually attend Illinois, Washington, Texas, Florida, Indiana, Purdue, RPI, NC, UMD.

Great that TJ grads go on to Service Academies. Future leaders.

There are three this year, if memory serves.