Why is Notre Dame bot as selective as it's peers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

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If this poster knew anything, she would know that the states in this country with the most restrictive abortion laws are almost invariably the states with the lowest percentage of Catholics in their population. The states with the most liberal laws - Massachusetts, New York, NJ, California, MD, etc - are the most heavily Catholic in the country.

You aren’t gonna find a lot of Catholics in Alabama, Mississippi or South Carolina.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

What do you call someone who clearly has no personal experience with Notre Dame and so little knowledge about the Catholic Church that it labels ND’s administration as “evangelical?”

A bigot.

I do have personal experience with ND. And extremists pushing their religious beliefs on you sounds “evangelical” to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

We are discussing ND. The SCOTUS justice from ND is a religious extremist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

Do you know what Evangelicals are? That isn't a term for generic extremists. Evangelical is a specific type of Christian who focuses on "evangelizing" or converting people. Most evangelical christians don't even think Catholics are "true" Christians.
You can make a solid case for some Catholic extremists, but conflating Catholic extremism and evangelicalism just shows a real ignorance on your part of both groups.

A Catholic from Notre Dame who pushes her religion on others sounds like she’s trying to (forcefully) convert others to follow her beliefs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

Right? The same person that screams about Barrett's Catholicism will conveniently ignore just how much Biden's Catholicism has shaped him and his politics.

Biden isn’t trying to force his beliefs on others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

Right? The same person that screams about Barrett's Catholicism will conveniently ignore just how much Biden's Catholicism has shaped him and his politics.

Biden isn’t trying to force his beliefs on others.

No, he definitely is. All politicians are. It's just that his beliefs align more closely to yours (and to mine, for what it's worth) so you can't imagine that many of those beliefs actually stem from his deep faith.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

What do you call someone who clearly has no personal experience with Notre Dame and so little knowledge about the Catholic Church that it labels ND’s administration as “evangelical?”

A bigot.

I do have personal experience with ND. And extremists pushing their religious beliefs on you sounds “evangelical” to me.

Define your personal experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

Do you know what Evangelicals are? That isn't a term for generic extremists. Evangelical is a specific type of Christian who focuses on "evangelizing" or converting people. Most evangelical christians don't even think Catholics are "true" Christians.
You can make a solid case for some Catholic extremists, but conflating Catholic extremism and evangelicalism just shows a real ignorance on your part of both groups.

A Catholic from Notre Dame who pushes her religion on others sounds like she’s trying to (forcefully) convert others to follow her beliefs.

Justice Coney Barrett is a Notre Dame Law grad, not an ND undergrad. The law school is the most conservative part of the university. That much is clearly true. But it’s only 5 percent of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

+1

If this poster knew anything, she would know that the states in this country with the most restrictive abortion laws are almost invariably the states with the lowest percentage of Catholics in their population. The states with the most liberal laws - Massachusetts, New York, NJ, California, MD, etc - are the most heavily Catholic in the country.

You aren’t gonna find a lot of Catholics in Alabama, Mississippi or South Carolina.

This isn’t about Catholicism. Many Catholics are pro-choice. This is about how Indiana wants to take away women’s rights.

Indiana was the first state to pass anti-abortion laws after the SCOTUS ruling. The state legislature banned *nearly all* abortion procedures. It would only allow abortions in the cases of rape and incest, before 10 weeks post-fertilization; to protect the life and physical health of the mother; and if a fetus is diagnosed with a lethal anomaly.

It would be one of the most restrictive bans in the US if it weren’t blocked by the courts. Indiana is no place for women or people who care about women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

Right? The same person that screams about Barrett's Catholicism will conveniently ignore just how much Biden's Catholicism has shaped him and his politics.

Biden isn’t trying to force his beliefs on others.

When Maryland outlawed the death penalty - driven in huge part by O'Malley's Catholic beliefs and support from the Catholic Archdiocese of Baltimore - was that forcing his beliefs on others?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

What do you call someone who clearly has no personal experience with Notre Dame and so little knowledge about the Catholic Church that it labels ND’s administration as “evangelical?”

A bigot.

I do have personal experience with ND. And extremists pushing their religious beliefs on you sounds “evangelical” to me.

Define your personal experience.

I took a class there during HS and almost attended (accepted). I also have family members who are alumni.

The school has great traditions - it’s a shame the school/state is going downhill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

+1

If this poster knew anything, she would know that the states in this country with the most restrictive abortion laws are almost invariably the states with the lowest percentage of Catholics in their population. The states with the most liberal laws - Massachusetts, New York, NJ, California, MD, etc - are the most heavily Catholic in the country.

You aren’t gonna find a lot of Catholics in Alabama, Mississippi or South Carolina.

This isn’t about Catholicism. Many Catholics are pro-choice. This is about how Indiana wants to take away women’s rights.

Indiana was the first state to pass anti-abortion laws after the SCOTUS ruling. The state legislature banned *nearly all* abortion procedures. It would only allow abortions in the cases of rape and incest, before 10 weeks post-fertilization; to protect the life and physical health of the mother; and if a fetus is diagnosed with a lethal anomaly.

It would be one of the most restrictive bans in the US if it weren’t blocked by the courts. Indiana is no place for women or people who care about women.

Lol ok.

Don’t send your kids to Rice, Vanderbilt, Emory, Duke, Wash U, etc. We’re talking about the University of Notre Dame, not the State of Indiana.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

What do you call someone who clearly has no personal experience with Notre Dame and so little knowledge about the Catholic Church that it labels ND’s administration as “evangelical?”

A bigot.

I do have personal experience with ND. And extremists pushing their religious beliefs on you sounds “evangelical” to me.

Define your personal experience.

I took a class there during HS and almost attended (accepted). I also have family members who are alumni.

The school has great traditions - it’s a shame the school/state is going downhill.

No, you didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

Right? The same person that screams about Barrett's Catholicism will conveniently ignore just how much Biden's Catholicism has shaped him and his politics.

Biden isn’t trying to force his beliefs on others.

When Maryland outlawed the death penalty - driven in huge part by O'Malley's Catholic beliefs and support from the Catholic Archdiocese of Baltimore - was that forcing his beliefs on others?

What was Biden’s role in that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

You are angry at a handful of politicians and judges who happen to be Catholic (or used to be in the case of Gorsuch and Barrett -- her organization is primarily Protestant), conveniently ignoring the fact that many Catholic politicians and judges, including two on the Supreme Court and the President, hold the same political view that you do. You are incorrectly painting an entire religion and any school associated with that religion, with a single political brush. That is bigotry.

We are discussing ND. The SCOTUS justice from ND is a religious extremist.

So what? She is one person and not even remotely representative of everyone at the school. You can't be that ignorant? And lots of ND law professors wrote a letter not supporting her. You will find differences of opinion at ND and other colleges. If you write off an entire school because of the voice of one or even a handful of its people, you will be writing off every decent school, and giving up on the opportunity to hear all kinds of opinions, which only makes you smarter and better able to hone your own.