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Anonymous wrote: "I’ve seen a sworn affidavit from Yoel Roth, the former head of Twitter’s trust and safety. He was meeting every week before the election with FBI and other intelligence officials." -

Miranda Devine on @FoxNews

That IS a violation of the 1st

No it isn’t.

Yes it is The FIB and government intelligence officials are (wait for it) government agencies.

Where in the constitution does it say that employees of private businesses can’t meet with government officials?

First paragraph:

“or abridge the freedom of speech”

When government officials tell twitter to ban a user or delete a post because they don’t like what’s said.

That does not say that meetings are prohibited.

You also left out the part about "Congress shall make no law". Can you point me to the law that you believes violates the 1st Amendment in this case?

Enjoy the read. No matter how you spin in or try to parse it, you are incorrect.

The ‘no law’ clause has nothing to do with this. Congress didn’t try to make a law. They bypassed any judicial review as well.

https://www.fox-news.com/politics/fbi-weekly-big-tech-ahead-2020-election-agent-testifies

Let me help a bit:

“ "Since filing our lawsuit, we've uncovered troves of discovery that show a massive 'censorship enterprise,'" Attorney General Eric Schmitt told Fox News Digital. "Now, we're deposing top government officials, and we're one of the first to get a look under the hood — the information we've uncovered through those depositions has been shocking to say the least. It's clear from Tuesday's deposition that the FBI has an extremely close role in working to censor freedom of speech."

Let's see how well this lawsuit does in the court system. I would not put a lot of faith in the plaintiff's attorney. But, let me give a real life example of the type of thing being described here.

A couple of years ago I was contacted by an individual who asked me to remove a thread on DCUM. The individual said that the thread involved an issue in which the police were involved and that the police had warned them that the DCUM thread could put people in danger. I said that I wanted to hear that from the police directly and was subsequently contacted by a police officer. The officer confirmed that it was their opinion that the thread could in fact present a threat to the safety of those involved. I was still reluctant to remove the thread and explained my position and the officer left it at that. I followed up with the original person who contacted me and we agreed upon a solution that did not involve removing the entire thread, but did require removing two or three specific posts.

In this case, I was clearly influenced by a governmental actor to censor a DCUM thread. It was within my rights to ignore the police. I later chose to remove posts but did so due to my own determinations about the appropriateness of the posts rather than by governmental order. As such, there was no First Amendment issue involved here. I suspect that you will find out that the same is true in the legal procedure you are referencing.

Thank you for admitting you choose what gets posted. Unfortunately you have become rather heavy handed with your censorship and it has lowered the quality of conversation on the forum. I posted something the other day and thought my post was thoughtful and respectful but it did argue the opposing view of establishment Democrats. It was removed. Now it seems like if a post doesn’t tow your personal line it gets deleted. I guess maybe you should just get rid of the political forum altogether because it is so heavily edited.

It is his website, if you don't like how he moderates it, you can choose not to visit anymore. No one is forcing you to come here, and further, there are plenty of right wing cesspool websites you can visit, anytime you want.

Then you admit this is a left wing nut cesspool?

I think the point you’re missing is that unmoderated websites soon turn into far right, racist cesspools.

Not suggesting that at all, nowhere near what I posted, and I would generally agree with you.

[Anonymous]

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Lost in the shuffle of all of this is that posting the H****r Biden di*k pic may have been illegal in 2020. Most states have laws making the dissemination of pornographic images without the subject’s consent illegal. Depending on the state law that governed, Twitter may well have refusing to participate in criminal activity.

Furthermore, as of 10/1/2022, H****r Biden has a federal cause of action against anyone who reposts his di*k pics on Twitter. This law was not in place in 2020. But, currently, you post the di*k pick, you could be sued.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10723


This means H****r Biden could sue Ted Cruz.

https://washingtonpress.com/2022/12/03/new-low-ted-cruz-stoops-to-posting-nude-photo-of-hunter-biden/

[Anonymous]

In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

You’re asking what the response would be if there were compromising pictures of Ted Cruz or Trump, or Pence. I despise all of them, but there is absolutely no reason for them to be on any platform, especially without their consent.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

When posters invent hypothetical situations in which roles are reversed, I find that they often forget about actual situations when the roles were reversed. For instance, I have removed every single photo of naked Melania that I've ever found posted on DCUM. I doubt few of those defending Twitter in this thread would not also support Twitter removing those photos as well. So, none of us have to rely on your predictive abilities. We have an actual example with which to compare. If anything, since Melania's photos were taken in order to be published, that is actually a somewhat weaker example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh lord Jeff. You have the patience of a saint. I hope this thread demonstrates the principle that republicans consistently fail to grasp: freedom under the first amendment means people (who own websites sometimes) get to publish (or not publish) what we they want, for whatever reasons they want, subject to very few limitations. Cry more cons.

Are you saying then that you believe this site should only have progressive view points?

As a reader of this site, I prefer it when Jeff leaves up thoughtful conservative comments and critiques that further the discussion and/or provide a sane counterpoint rooted in fact. And I’m glad he deletes the posts that are trolling, abusive and/or a product of the poster’s fever dreams.

Put it’s his site, not mine. So, my only recourse is to take break from DCUM when it feels like the crazies have taken over. Which I do.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

When posters invent hypothetical situations in which roles are reversed, I find that they often forget about actual situations when the roles were reversed. For instance, I have removed every single photo of naked Melania that I've ever found posted on DCUM. I doubt few of those defending Twitter in this thread would not also support Twitter removing those photos as well. So, none of us have to rely on your predictive abilities. We have an actual example with which to compare. If anything, since Melania's photos were taken in order to be published, that is actually a somewhat weaker example.

This focus on Hunter's dick pics is a distraction from the real story. It is odd that a member of the first family loves to document his entire sex life on video prostitute and m and ms and all. Not to mention his drug use.

The real story though is about how he received millions from foreign companies because of who his father was ...

And his father's presidential campaign and their allies in the government successfully suppressed the story ...

There will be hearings ...

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

When posters invent hypothetical situations in which roles are reversed, I find that they often forget about actual situations when the roles were reversed. For instance, I have removed every single photo of naked Melania that I've ever found posted on DCUM. I doubt few of those defending Twitter in this thread would not also support Twitter removing those photos as well. So, none of us have to rely on your predictive abilities. We have an actual example with which to compare. If anything, since Melania's photos were taken in order to be published, that is actually a somewhat weaker example.

This focus on Hunter's dick pics is a distraction from the real story. It is odd that a member of the first family loves to document his entire sex life on video prostitute and m and ms and all. Not to mention his drug use.

The real story though is about how he received millions from foreign companies because of who his father was ...

And his father's presidential campaign and their allies in the government successfully suppressed the story ...

There will be hearings ...

I am still bewildered that he documented his sex life with prostitutes, documented his drug addiction, etc, in full color photographs, and then took that laptop to a computer repair shop. WTH?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

When posters invent hypothetical situations in which roles are reversed, I find that they often forget about actual situations when the roles were reversed. For instance, I have removed every single photo of naked Melania that I've ever found posted on DCUM. I doubt few of those defending Twitter in this thread would not also support Twitter removing those photos as well. So, none of us have to rely on your predictive abilities. We have an actual example with which to compare. If anything, since Melania's photos were taken in order to be published, that is actually a somewhat weaker example.

This focus on Hunter's dick pics is a distraction from the real story. It is odd that a member of the first family loves to document his entire sex life on video prostitute and m and ms and all. Not to mention his drug use.

The real story though is about how he received millions from foreign companies because of who his father was ...

And his father's presidential campaign and their allies in the government successfully suppressed the story ...

There will be hearings ...

I am still bewildered that he documented his sex life with prostitutes, documented his drug addiction, etc, in full color photographs, and then took that laptop to a computer repair shop. WTH?

He had secret service protection and his fathers credit card. It is not like he had to worry that anyone was going to arrest him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

When posters invent hypothetical situations in which roles are reversed, I find that they often forget about actual situations when the roles were reversed. For instance, I have removed every single photo of naked Melania that I've ever found posted on DCUM. I doubt few of those defending Twitter in this thread would not also support Twitter removing those photos as well. So, none of us have to rely on your predictive abilities. We have an actual example with which to compare. If anything, since Melania's photos were taken in order to be published, that is actually a somewhat weaker example.

This focus on Hunter's dick pics is a distraction from the real story. It is odd that a member of the first family loves to document his entire sex life on video prostitute and m and ms and all. Not to mention his drug use.

The real story though is about how he received millions from foreign companies because of who his father was ...

And his father's presidential campaign and their allies in the government successfully suppressed the story ...

There will be hearings ...

They'll be the shortest hearings in history.

"Mr. Biden, is it true that you were employed by Burisma, and that you probably weren't entirely qualified but the company paid you anyway because of who your father is?"

"Yes Senator, this is true."

"And is it also true that private companies can hire whoever they want for whatever reasons they want and pay them whatever they want?"

"Yes Senator, that is also true."

"And is it further true that there is literally nothing illegal about getting a job you're unqualified for because of who your father is, and in fact basically every relative of a rich or influential person has benefitted from this in some way?"

"Yes Senator, you're pretty much just describing the state of privilege that has been happening in America since the very beginning."

"Yep, that covers it. Hearing over!"

[Anonymous]

He graduated from Yale law and is described by his father as the smartest person he knows

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these sort of topics, I always like to think what the reaction were to be if the sides were reversed...ie Hunter was a Rhino? After reading these posts, I feel that most, if not all, reactions would be flipped.

If Tom ever caught Jerry, the cartoon would be over...and round and round we go.

When posters invent hypothetical situations in which roles are reversed, I find that they often forget about actual situations when the roles were reversed. For instance, I have removed every single photo of naked Melania that I've ever found posted on DCUM. I doubt few of those defending Twitter in this thread would not also support Twitter removing those photos as well. So, none of us have to rely on your predictive abilities. We have an actual example with which to compare. If anything, since Melania's photos were taken in order to be published, that is actually a somewhat weaker example.

This focus on Hunter's dick pics is a distraction from the real story. It is odd that a member of the first family loves to document his entire sex life on video prostitute and m and ms and all. Not to mention his drug use.

The real story though is about how he received millions from foreign companies because of who his father was ...

And his father's presidential campaign and their allies in the government successfully suppressed the story ...

There will be hearings ...

I am still bewildered that he documented his sex life with prostitutes, documented his drug addiction, etc, in full color photographs, and then took that laptop to a computer repair shop. WTH?

He had secret service protection and his fathers credit card. It is not like he had to worry that anyone was going to arrest him.

+1

Flip the script to the person who has such a laptop and such photos being Don Trump jr. And Trump is president. I can’t even imagine how outraged people would be.

[Anonymous]

Recall Trump was impeached for suggesting Ukraine investigate Burisma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Recall Trump was impeached for suggesting Ukraine investigate Burisma.

Uhh, no. Trump was impeached for withholding Congressionally appropriated funds from Ukraine unless they conducted a sham "investigation" of Burisma specifically to dig up (or make up) dirt on a political opponent.

Pretty big difference there.