If you had the money, would you raise your kids in NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming you have the money for a good life - a suitable apartment for your family, good schools, extra curriculars, vacation, etc.

No. Don't like it enough for that. There are much better cities than NY, IMO

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Anonymous wrote:No. I would consider raising kids in NYC a form of endangerment and abuse.

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Me too. There’s not even fresh air there.

I guess there are really all types of people in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I would consider raising kids in NYC a form of endangerment and abuse.

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Me too. There’s not even fresh air there.

I guess there are really all types of people in the world.

Miserably hot summers.

Miserably cold and long winter.

Plus, on the rare occasion it snows, you can’t enjoy it in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC and certainly don't think its garbage but I do agree that a lot of the posters trashing NYC sound a wee bit jealous. NY does have an energy that you don't find anywhere else. Its certainly not for everyone, but I love it and would raise my kids there if I was wealthy.

People can just not like a place, you know? I mean a lot of Californians don’t even like flying east past the Rockies, let alone living in NYC. There are also a lot of New Yorkers who flat-out won’t leave the city let alone contemplate living in California.

It is so weird to me that people believe that dislike must secretly be jealousy. That just smacks of insecurity.

Its the vitriol about a place that they have never lived in. The vitriol is what makes these posters sound jealous.

I’m sorry, but that’s just silly insecurity on your part.

I have visited Colorado two times in my life. Both times the dryness made my skin split horribly and painfully. I didn’t like it. I’d never live there, even if I could live in the fanciest of Aspen houses. That doesn’t make me jealous of Colorado residents, it just makes me someone who doesn’t like Colorado. Claiming everyone who doesn’t like NYC is “just jealous” is kind of pathetic.

PP explained that she lives in DC now. why would she be insecure about discussing pros and cons of living in NYC?

and, while you live in california, majority of people here live in or around DC. people who live in this area typically share a lot of preferences with people who live in NYC. it's weird that they are so vehemently opposed to NYC lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t deal well with crowds or too much noise, so no. Even the DC area is more crowded that I really prefer.

I live next to a park in NYC. I am also noise sensitive and hate crowds. I love my neighborhood and NYC. That's the advantage of a huge city - you can live many different ways. You can find a way that suits your needs. You can go out to dinners, parties and concerts every night, or never. You can send your kids to a neighborhood public school, or to a gifted & talented charter school, or to a traditional/progressive/co-ed/single sex/uptown/downtown/Brooklyn private school. There are many, many choices for a lifestyle in a city unlike in the suburbs, where life is more or less the same for everyone.

+1. My NYC neighborhood is quiet and leafy and adjacent to a huge park and innumerable playgrounds. I was actually thinking of this thread when I was walking home from the subway yesterday to pick up my daughter at her elementary school, wishing I could share photos of the glorious fall day in the neighborhood, with beautiful brownstones, kids laughing, families at the corner restaurant, and her quaint little school 4 blocks from home. It just doesn't align whatsoever with how people are describing their reasons for not wanting to raise a family in NYC. Still, I get the aversion - some people want the convenience of a big backyard or a finished basement or whatever, or they just don't like density, or don't like walking, want to be 30 minutes from skiing, or any number of things. No doubt my neighborhood is noisier and more crowded than most suburbs. But it's hardly the skyscraper filled, trash and rat laden, money fueled metropolis described over the past 10 pages. I work for the city government, most families in my neighborhood are civil servants, creatives, tech, journalism, media, etc. I don't have a single friend in finance, or if I'm friendly with a parent who is in finance, I don't know it. Because we don't talk about work all the time so I don't really know what many people do.

May I ask what neighborhood you live in? Sounds lovely.

Park Slope/Windsor Terrace. We don't have tons of money by dcum standards but we own a very small apartment that works for us.

Hi, neighbor! <waves> It really is a beautiful part of the city.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t deal well with crowds or too much noise, so no. Even the DC area is more crowded that I really prefer.

I live next to a park in NYC. I am also noise sensitive and hate crowds. I love my neighborhood and NYC. That's the advantage of a huge city - you can live many different ways. You can find a way that suits your needs. You can go out to dinners, parties and concerts every night, or never. You can send your kids to a neighborhood public school, or to a gifted & talented charter school, or to a traditional/progressive/co-ed/single sex/uptown/downtown/Brooklyn private school. There are many, many choices for a lifestyle in a city unlike in the suburbs, where life is more or less the same for everyone.

+1. My NYC neighborhood is quiet and leafy and adjacent to a huge park and innumerable playgrounds. I was actually thinking of this thread when I was walking home from the subway yesterday to pick up my daughter at her elementary school, wishing I could share photos of the glorious fall day in the neighborhood, with beautiful brownstones, kids laughing, families at the corner restaurant, and her quaint little school 4 blocks from home. It just doesn't align whatsoever with how people are describing their reasons for not wanting to raise a family in NYC. Still, I get the aversion - some people want the convenience of a big backyard or a finished basement or whatever, or they just don't like density, or don't like walking, want to be 30 minutes from skiing, or any number of things. No doubt my neighborhood is noisier and more crowded than most suburbs. But it's hardly the skyscraper filled, trash and rat laden, money fueled metropolis described over the past 10 pages. I work for the city government, most families in my neighborhood are civil servants, creatives, tech, journalism, media, etc. I don't have a single friend in finance, or if I'm friendly with a parent who is in finance, I don't know it. Because we don't talk about work all the time so I don't really know what many people do.

Sorry but you’re delusional. There isn’t a single neighborhood in NYC that is quiet and leafy. Perhaps some parts of Staten Island but you don’t live there since you said the subway. Speaking of the subway, it’s disgusting. The stations aren’t clean and neither is your neighborhood. NYC is the only city I’m aware of where you throw your trash into trashcans and bags on the street. There is just no way that your neighborhood is truly clean and quiet. I have been all over Brooklyn and queens and never seen anything like that. Perhaps if you move from third avenue you might think your neighborhood is clean and quiet, but not if you’ve ever been to a clean and quiet town or neighborhood.

Nope, nope, nope. You don't know the city nearly as well as you think you do. You are just wrong. Stand there in your wrongness and be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t deal well with crowds or too much noise, so no. Even the DC area is more crowded that I really prefer.

I live next to a park in NYC. I am also noise sensitive and hate crowds. I love my neighborhood and NYC. That's the advantage of a huge city - you can live many different ways. You can find a way that suits your needs. You can go out to dinners, parties and concerts every night, or never. You can send your kids to a neighborhood public school, or to a gifted & talented charter school, or to a traditional/progressive/co-ed/single sex/uptown/downtown/Brooklyn private school. There are many, many choices for a lifestyle in a city unlike in the suburbs, where life is more or less the same for everyone.

+1. My NYC neighborhood is quiet and leafy and adjacent to a huge park and innumerable playgrounds. I was actually thinking of this thread when I was walking home from the subway yesterday to pick up my daughter at her elementary school, wishing I could share photos of the glorious fall day in the neighborhood, with beautiful brownstones, kids laughing, families at the corner restaurant, and her quaint little school 4 blocks from home. It just doesn't align whatsoever with how people are describing their reasons for not wanting to raise a family in NYC. Still, I get the aversion - some people want the convenience of a big backyard or a finished basement or whatever, or they just don't like density, or don't like walking, want to be 30 minutes from skiing, or any number of things. No doubt my neighborhood is noisier and more crowded than most suburbs. But it's hardly the skyscraper filled, trash and rat laden, money fueled metropolis described over the past 10 pages. I work for the city government, most families in my neighborhood are civil servants, creatives, tech, journalism, media, etc. I don't have a single friend in finance, or if I'm friendly with a parent who is in finance, I don't know it. Because we don't talk about work all the time so I don't really know what many people do.

Sorry but you’re delusional. There isn’t a single neighborhood in NYC that is quiet and leafy. Perhaps some parts of Staten Island but you don’t live there since you said the subway. Speaking of the subway, it’s disgusting. The stations aren’t clean and neither is your neighborhood. NYC is the only city I’m aware of where you throw your trash into trashcans and bags on the street. There is just no way that your neighborhood is truly clean and quiet. I have been all over Brooklyn and queens and never seen anything like that. Perhaps if you move from third avenue you might think your neighborhood is clean and quiet, but not if you’ve ever been to a clean and quiet town or neighborhood.

Have you been to Victorian Flatbush? There are several adjacent neighborhoods that are quiet and leafy.

Do you mean Ditmas Park? PP clearly has not been there. It's like something out of Norman Rockwell.

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What did a PP say, that they'd consider raising a child here a form of abuse?

https://goo.gl/maps/ZQcTsGcfdge5Tj2MA

6 minute walk to cafe, 10 minute walk to a subway station, 35 minutes to lower Manhattan.

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I like that NYC completely eliminated Gifted and Talented programs in all their schools.

It is far more equitable and inclusive for children.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that NYC completely eliminated Gifted and Talented programs in all their schools.

It is far more equitable and inclusive for children.

Negligence?

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I grew up in NYC. My parents had plenty of money. What many of you may not be thinking about is that for wealthy families raising kids in NYC they almost all have country homes. These homes are in CT, the Hamptons, Berkshires and even as far as Maine. One of my private school classmates family had a private plane fly her to her county home each weekend. That’s where the leafy greens come in. NYC is for the school/work week only. It’s an amazing way to grow up. For art class you go to the Met. You grow up on theater, Opera, the best of most everything others can only dream about. This of course depends on being wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:I like that NYC completely eliminated Gifted and Talented programs in all their schools.

It is far more equitable and inclusive for children.

NP. This is the only good argument I've seen on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in NYC. My parents had plenty of money. What many of you may not be thinking about is that for wealthy families raising kids in NYC they almost all have country homes. These homes are in CT, the Hamptons, Berkshires and even as far as Maine. One of my private school classmates family had a private plane fly her to her county home each weekend. That’s where the leafy greens come in. NYC is for the school/work week only. It’s an amazing way to grow up. For art class you go to the Met. You grow up on theater, Opera, the best of most everything others can only dream about. This of course depends on being wealthy.

yep, so true.

wealthy people live great lives in nyc.

and plenty of quiet neighborhoods.. carnegie hill, ditmas park, mill basin, canarsie. the latter two are far from wealthy but they’re defintely quiet. lol