Can we just agree that the only way democracy will be saved is if we all vote Democrat in next

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I’ve always been an independent voter and chose people based on their merits. I still will, however I know I’ll be choosing blue all the way down the ticket. Too many crazy conservative GOP candidates nowadays.

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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.

Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.

This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??

Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time

It was never a constitutional right.

The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.

The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

We already have a well regulated militia that ensures the security and freedom of our nation. It’s called the US army and it’s the best in the world. We don’t need uncle Gary and his Walmart bought AR 15 to ensure the security and freedom of this country. The second amendment is very clear in its intent, it’s MAGAs who are literalist and take an excerpt of the 2nd amendment out of its very clear context.

The right “of the people”.

Not the right “of the US Army”.


Just as the first amendment protects the people’s right to free speech. Those same people have the right to keep and bear arms.

Only if they are well regulated. That means you are not allowed to bear arms without training(initial 6 weeks training plus 2 days a month), licensing and storage at a government controlled armory.

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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.

Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.

This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??

Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time

It was never a constitutional right.

The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.

The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

We already have a well regulated militia that ensures the security and freedom of our nation. It’s called the US army and it’s the best in the world. We don’t need uncle Gary and his Walmart bought AR 15 to ensure the security and freedom of this country. The second amendment is very clear in its intent, it’s MAGAs who are literalist and take an excerpt of the 2nd amendment out of its very clear context.

The right “of the people”.

Not the right “of the US Army”.


Just as the first amendment protects the people’s right to free speech. Those same people have the right to keep and bear arms.

The US Army is the people’s militia. They bear arms on behalf of the people, to provide security and freedom to the people. If the people want to dissolve the US Army, bring on a draft and arm every household to defend the country, than say so. 2nd amendment is clear, right to bear arms for express purpose of fighting in a militia, not for individual protection, for hunting or for shooting ranges.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll vote against the party that sees everything through the prism of race and which celebrates and promotes dependency on government.

This right here is why I’m going to stop reading this depressing AF thread. I think it’s on page 2.

The comment about race is just racist.

The second half is mystifying. If you don’t want dependency on government allow abortions. But that’s the GOP model; you can pull yourself up from your bootstraps. It also has such a scarcity mindset. There have been articles about whites hurting economically, and they’d rather all stay poor rather than seeing anyone get anything they may not. Besides, I’m sure this poster got or had friends getting Covid assistance. The cognitive dissonance is real.

OP good for you. But the op’s are truly disheartening.

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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.

Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.

This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??

Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time

It was never a constitutional right.

The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.

The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

We already have a well regulated militia that ensures the security and freedom of our nation. It’s called the US army and it’s the best in the world. We don’t need uncle Gary and his Walmart bought AR 15 to ensure the security and freedom of this country. The second amendment is very clear in its intent, it’s MAGAs who are literalist and take an excerpt of the 2nd amendment out of its very clear context.

The right “of the people”.

Not the right “of the US Army”.


Just as the first amendment protects the people’s right to free speech. Those same people have the right to keep and bear arms.

The US Army is the people’s militia. They bear arms on behalf of the people, to provide security and freedom to the people. If the people want to dissolve the US Army, bring on a draft and arm every household to defend the country, than say so. 2nd amendment is clear, right to bear arms for express purpose of fighting in a militia, not for individual protection, for hunting or for shooting ranges.

National guard is most analogous to a militia.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just agree that the only way the democratic agenda will be saved is if we all vote Democrat in next election

Fixed the title for you, OP. Hey guess what? Not everyone values your definition of "democracy" whereby only Democrats can run their agenda. In fact, considering Republicans garner around half the national vote, such a system you propose is anything BUT democratic! What irony! I'll continue to participate in our *representative democracy* by voting for those who best align with my views: Republicans.

It's not "Representative Democracy" when you gerrymander, when you cheat people out of their votes, when you undermine democracy by promoting false Big Lies about a "stolen election" what wasn't stolen, when you steal Supreme Court seats and pack them with seats for life in a way that is totally out of kilter with the actual population and they then go ahead and start overturning laws made by the actual representative democracy. Sorry but when you vote Republican you don't get to talk about representative democracy because you don't actually support representative democracy. You support tyranny by the minority.

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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need

Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.

You are incredibly stupid is what you are. Please don’t ever use that uterus. Best your DNA stops here.

^^ dem messaging right here. "Shut up, we know whats best for you, you morons." Completely dismissive of issues people actually care about like crime, schools, and the economy.

Yep, that’s the messaging. Don’t worry, it comes through loud and clear. I hear it from my Democrat friends in person and all over social media. It is an effective way to shut people down and I guess it works since Biden runs the country. But I am not a fan of the condescending, patronizing Democrats that run my county and state.

Yes, those horrid Dems are condescending and patronizing because they keep rubbing inconvenient truths in your face - how about getting on the side of truth if you don't like that happening all the time?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, But am voting Republican. Dems have not fixed border issue, economy is in the crapper, gas prices are higher than ever with NO plan to fix them. No thanks.

Economy is cyclical. If you have a GOP plan, I'll be happy to take a look at it. I have not seen any.
GOP did not fix the border issue either.

At least GOP wants to fix the border.

Biden administration says it is “secure.”

Abbot’s corrupt border control plan has blown up in your face. No accounting of taxpayers money, fake numbers, and fake fentanyl bottles that they claimed were allegedly confiscated distributed at an Abbot rally. I’d tip his wheelchair like you whackos tip cows. Go find the 10 page article yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm not voting for any Republicans now. Not even "reasonable" ones like Larry Hogan.

Ii am never voting for a Republican again. The ones like Hogan who have refused to denounce their party are just as despicable as the Trumpers who continue to spout the Big Lie.

No matter what your party, folks, you have to vote for Democrats if you want our country to remain a democracy.

The SCOTUS has turned the corner, and will soon turn control of voting over to state legislatures.

Democrats must retain control and the local, state and national levels. Congress must remain the hands of the Democrats.

Mitch McConnel has his Supreme Court, and God Help Us what this radical-right court will dismantle next.

I don't want to return to 1950, do you?

If not, VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, straight ticket up and down. SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY!!!!!

You can’t be this dumb! The Constitution already delegates control of elections to the states. No wonder so many of you are apoplectic, you don’t know the most basic civics about the country you live in.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just agree that the only way the democratic agenda will be saved is if we all vote Democrat in next election

Fixed the title for you, OP. Hey guess what? Not everyone values your definition of "democracy" whereby only Democrats can run their agenda. In fact, considering Republicans garner around half the national vote, such a system you propose is anything BUT democratic! What irony! I'll continue to participate in our *representative democracy* by voting for those who best align with my views: Republicans.

It's not "Representative Democracy" when you gerrymander, when you cheat people out of their votes, when you undermine democracy by promoting false Big Lies about a "stolen election" what wasn't stolen, when you steal Supreme Court seats and pack them with seats for life in a way that is totally out of kilter with the actual population and they then go ahead and start overturning laws made by the actual representative democracy. Sorry but when you vote Republican you don't get to talk about representative democracy because you don't actually support representative democracy. You support tyranny by the minority.

It's not really "tyranny of the minority" if ~half the country voted for it. It sounds like you're just mad that you're losing control of the narrative and people are seeing Dems for what they're worth. Good luck in November, sweetie.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm not voting for any Republicans now. Not even "reasonable" ones like Larry Hogan.

Ii am never voting for a Republican again. The ones like Hogan who have refused to denounce their party are just as despicable as the Trumpers who continue to spout the Big Lie.

No matter what your party, folks, you have to vote for Democrats if you want our country to remain a democracy.

The SCOTUS has turned the corner, and will soon turn control of voting over to state legislatures.

Democrats must retain control and the local, state and national levels. Congress must remain the hands of the Democrats.

Mitch McConnel has his Supreme Court, and God Help Us what this radical-right court will dismantle next.

I don't want to return to 1950, do you?

If not, VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, straight ticket up and down. SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY!!!!!

You can’t be this dumb! The Constitution already delegates control of elections to the states. No wonder so many of you are apoplectic, you don’t know the most basic civics about the country you live in.

They mean sole control to state legislatures, not the state constitution and not the state courts. A few bad actors could overturn the popular vote of a state.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just agree that the only way the democratic agenda will be saved is if we all vote Democrat in next election

Fixed the title for you, OP. Hey guess what? Not everyone values your definition of "democracy" whereby only Democrats can run their agenda. In fact, considering Republicans garner around half the national vote, such a system you propose is anything BUT democratic! What irony! I'll continue to participate in our *representative democracy* by voting for those who best align with my views: Republicans.

It's not "Representative Democracy" when you gerrymander, when you cheat people out of their votes, when you undermine democracy by promoting false Big Lies about a "stolen election" what wasn't stolen, when you steal Supreme Court seats and pack them with seats for life in a way that is totally out of kilter with the actual population and they then go ahead and start overturning laws made by the actual representative democracy. Sorry but when you vote Republican you don't get to talk about representative democracy because you don't actually support representative democracy. You support tyranny by the minority.

It's not really "tyranny of the minority" if ~half the country voted for it. It sounds like you're just mad that you're losing control of the narrative and people are seeing Dems for what they're worth. Good luck in November, sweetie.

Half the country by area, not by population.

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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.

Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.

This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??

Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time

It was never a constitutional right.

The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.

The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

We already have a well regulated militia that ensures the security and freedom of our nation. It’s called the US army and it’s the best in the world. We don’t need uncle Gary and his Walmart bought AR 15 to ensure the security and freedom of this country. The second amendment is very clear in its intent, it’s MAGAs who are literalist and take an excerpt of the 2nd amendment out of its very clear context.

The right “of the people”.

Not the right “of the US Army”.


Just as the first amendment protects the people’s right to free speech. Those same people have the right to keep and bear arms.

And the Ninth Amendment gives the unenumerated right of reproductive liberty and bodily integrity to the People.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve always been an independent voter and chose people based on their merits. I still will, however I know I’ll be choosing blue all the way down the ticket. Too many crazy conservative GOP candidates nowadays.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll vote against the party that sees everything through the prism of race and which celebrates and promotes dependency on government.

This right here is why I’m going to stop reading this depressing AF thread. I think it’s on page 2.

The comment about race is just racist.

The second half is mystifying. If you don’t want dependency on government allow abortions. But that’s the GOP model; you can pull yourself up from your bootstraps. It also has such a scarcity mindset. There have been articles about whites hurting economically, and they’d rather all stay poor rather than seeing anyone get anything they may not. Besides, I’m sure this poster got or had friends getting Covid assistance. The cognitive dissonance is real.

OP good for you. But the op’s are truly disheartening.

Whites - especially in the south - usually vote against broader societal interests to maintain their racial hierarchy. Obviously with men. Perplexing with women.