Can we just agree that the only way democracy will be saved is if we all vote Democrat in next

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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.


Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.


This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??


Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time


It was never a constitutional right.


The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, But am voting Republican. Dems have not fixed border issue, economy is in the crapper, gas prices are higher than ever with NO plan to fix them. No thanks.



A vote for the gop since roe is literally a vote against women. Your argument held water before last week but now everything changed


Ok, fine. So be it. I’m voting against women. Whatever.

I guess the only way to REALLY preserve “democracy” (as you define it) is just to keep me from voting.

Then you’ll have your “democracy”
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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.


Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.


This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??


Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time


It was never a constitutional right.


The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.



The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.
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Anonymous wrote:Only Democrats running things has not my idea of democracy. The fact is Republicans don't seem to care about the insurrection and the war on the rights of American citizens


GOP has been usurped by a monster, a monster GOP establishment has been feeding for decades. They have lost control but are still delusional enough to think they can wrangle it back. The GOP is fast becoming an all out NeoNazi party. Vote them out now or watch this country devolve in chaos and poverty.
Decent Republicans need to pull their head out of the sand and build a different platform
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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.


Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.


This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??


Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time


It was never a constitutional right.


The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.



The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

We already have a well regulated militia that ensures the security and freedom of our nation. It’s called the US army and it’s the best in the world. We don’t need uncle Gary and his Walmart bought AR 15 to ensure the security and freedom of this country. The second amendment is very clear in its intent, it’s MAGAs who are literalist and take an excerpt of the 2nd amendment out of its very clear context.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.


Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.


This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??


Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time


It was never a constitutional right.


The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.


I'm saying this as a dem. Abortion rights were on borrowed time as soon as the roe v Wade ruling. All abortion rights activists knew that, many of us got roe codified at the system level. Dems in Congress never wanted to waste political capital on abortion when they had the votes. Bringing on menses in the first three months of pregnancy was an acceptable practice in early America but never would have been considered important enough for the constitution. I guess we can just be glad they didn't include coverture.
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You are correct, OP, it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US. A lot of people are terrified of where the GOP is trying to take us and this is reflected in their defensive and ignorant posting here.

You can count on Republican pps to obfuscate and dissemble about what their party is doing and where it’s going (like 7:41 above; this is clearly a person in denial about what the abortion ruling actually means and what their party is doing), but it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US.
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Anonymous wrote:You are correct, OP, it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US. A lot of people are terrified of where the GOP is trying to take us and this is reflected in their defensive and ignorant posting here.

You can count on Republican pps to obfuscate and dissemble about what their party is doing and where it’s going (like 7:41 above; this is clearly a person in denial about what the abortion ruling actually means and what their party is doing), but it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US.



What do you all mean when you say things like, "vote D or its the end of the US"? Do you mean you intend to do something to end the US?
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Anonymous wrote:You are correct, OP, it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US. A lot of people are terrified of where the GOP is trying to take us and this is reflected in their defensive and ignorant posting here.

You can count on Republican pps to obfuscate and dissemble about what their party is doing and where it’s going (like 7:41 above; this is clearly a person in denial about what the abortion ruling actually means and what their party is doing), but it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US.



What do you all mean when you say things like, "vote D or its the end of the US"? Do you mean you intend to do something to end the US?


No, it means if SCOTUS decides as we think they will regarding elections next year, your vote won't count.
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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need


Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.


You are incredibly stupid is what you are. Please don’t ever use that uterus. Best your DNA stops here.


^^ dem messaging right here. "Shut up, we know whats best for you, you morons." Completely dismissive of issues people actually care about like crime, schools, and the economy.


Yep, that’s the messaging. Don’t worry, it comes through loud and clear. I hear it from my Democrat friends in person and all over social media. It is an effective way to shut people down and I guess it works since Biden runs the country. But I am not a fan of the condescending, patronizing Democrats that run my county and state.
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Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need


Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.


You are incredibly stupid is what you are. Please don’t ever use that uterus. Best your DNA stops here.


^^ dem messaging right here. "Shut up, we know whats best for you, you morons." Completely dismissive of issues people actually care about like crime, schools, and the economy.


Yep, that’s the messaging. Don’t worry, it comes through loud and clear. I hear it from my Democrat friends in person and all over social media. It is an effective way to shut people down and I guess it works since Biden runs the country. But I am not a fan of the condescending, patronizing Democrats that run my county and state.


LOL. Like the GQP does not do that. Puhleeze. Asking for votes is politics. Do what you want. But don't complain about the leopard eating your face.
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Anonymous wrote:You are correct, OP, it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US. A lot of people are terrified of where the GOP is trying to take us and this is reflected in their defensive and ignorant posting here.

You can count on Republican pps to obfuscate and dissemble about what their party is doing and where it’s going (like 7:41 above; this is clearly a person in denial about what the abortion ruling actually means and what their party is doing), but it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US.

What do you all mean when you say things like, "vote D or its the end of the US"? Do you mean you intend to do something to end the US?

This is exactly the obfuscation I was talking about, thank you for proving my point.
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Anonymous wrote:You are correct, OP, it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US. A lot of people are terrified of where the GOP is trying to take us and this is reflected in their defensive and ignorant posting here.

You can count on Republican pps to obfuscate and dissemble about what their party is doing and where it’s going (like 7:41 above; this is clearly a person in denial about what the abortion ruling actually means and what their party is doing), but it’s vote Democratic or it’s the end of the US.


And plenty of us live in deep blue states - we saw what the Democrats did to us and our kids over the past few years with respect to Covid. We see where the economy is. We see how crime has increased as a direct result of Democrat policy choices.

A lot of us are terrified of where the Democrats are trying to take us. We don’t want to end up like New York or CA. Hard pass.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is this debate not moot since roe?
Gop stacked the court to pass a law that will literally kill women. That’s over half this country.
Hard to care about gas prices or the border if you or close family member is dead from not being able to access medical services they need


Because; and this will shock democrats and progressives alike, I am not a walking uterus. I am a whole person that is tired of being scared to take the metro because of elevated crime. I’m over paying $5+ for a gallon of gas. I am furious that schools stayed closed far to long in order to own Trump. Because I am watching men get placed into Womens segregated sex spaces on the behest of democrats and being told to shut up and take it.
Because I also believe in bodily autonomy and watching the left forcing medical interventions on people so we can feed our families and keep a roof over our head was horrible.
You think we have short memories or are single issue voters, but not all women are willing to sell our souls for abortion. Sorry not sorry.


You are incredibly stupid is what you are. Please don’t ever use that uterus. Best your DNA stops here.


^^ dem messaging right here. "Shut up, we know whats best for you, you morons." Completely dismissive of issues people actually care about like crime, schools, and the economy.


Yep, that’s the messaging. Don’t worry, it comes through loud and clear. I hear it from my Democrat friends in person and all over social media. It is an effective way to shut people down and I guess it works since Biden runs the country. But I am not a fan of the condescending, patronizing Democrats that run my county and state.


LOL. Like the GQP does not do that. Puhleeze. Asking for votes is politics. Do what you want. But don't complain about the leopard eating your face.

+1 I love how regressives pretend that they’re so pure and that their party would never stoop to base politics. They’re pure id.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Democrat here. I’m not rewarding Democrats for:

-using women’s reproductive rights as a wedge issue
-never moving to codify Roe until we literally had a leaked draft showing Roe was over
-throwing the economy into recession
-causing inflation and ignoring numerous economists’ warnings in the process
-destroying education and setting back disabled, poor, and minority children for at least two generations
-relaunching the cold war
-eroding women’s rights by leading the charge of trans-identified men lying about biological realities and invading women’s spaces
-wasting my time with these foolish Jan 6 hearings while letting off the few defendants they indicted with slaps on the wrist
-letting that thieving traitor Hunter continue to influence peddle and enjoy ill-gotten gains
-being all around freaking incompetent, useless, money grubbing buffoons

I’m voting R to save the Democratic party. Only through massive, painful losses does this party stand a chance of making the change needed.


Good idea. Now we'll be on a fast track to the time when contraception and abortion are illegal. That is not going to be the utopia you envision. Read up on what happened when Romania outlawed them.

Democrats let things get to this point in order to exploit the situation for votes. Let that sink in.


This is true. Why on earth didn't Democrats codify abortion rights into law when Obama was president (for eight years)??


Because you don't codify constitutional rights. Which is what it was at the time


It was never a constitutional right.


The supreme Court had upheld that it was protected under the constitutional right of privacy. So yes it was seen as a right.



The same people who tell us that “abortion is protected in the constitution” also say “the second amendment only applies to muskets because that’s all they had when it was written”.


You can’t have it both ways.


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

We already have a well regulated militia that ensures the security and freedom of our nation. It’s called the US army and it’s the best in the world. We don’t need uncle Gary and his Walmart bought AR 15 to ensure the security and freedom of this country. The second amendment is very clear in its intent, it’s MAGAs who are literalist and take an excerpt of the 2nd amendment out of its very clear context.



The right “of the people”.

Not the right “of the US Army”.


Just as the first amendment protects the people’s right to free speech. Those same people have the right to keep and bear arms.


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