What did protestor say at Abbott press conference?

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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.


Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."



The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.


I guess you felt it was too soon?


Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.


DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

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And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.


PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.


I am the PP who said that I understand what you're saying. Beto's "stunt" won't move any needle, I agree with you about that. I don't think it will sink him, like you're saying, though.

But Beto isn't the issue - the murdered children are the issue. Beto won't move any needle. But Robb Elementary School may.


If the needle does not move he is 10 plus points down. That is my point. We already know from Sandy Hook that this will not move gun rights supporters. The middle will go for some issues: increased spending on mental health, increased school security and infrastructure, issues like background checks, waiting periods, high capacity magazines. There are likely some others as well like ending gun shows. But those people are not moving on broader issues.
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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.


Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."



The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.


I guess you felt it was too soon?


Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.



Which rock have you been under? All political and "appropriateness" rules have been out the window since 2016.


Sure. But this is not an appropriateness rule. It is a political rule. Even where the the country has changed these rules have not. For the bases sure but not the middle. The middle responds as they did 50 years ago. Not sure why people don’t get it.

1) where oh where is this political rule written down? And you’re sure it’s never been broken? Even though Abbott was flat out telling lies for political purposes?
2) Like fun the “the middle” responds as they did 50 years ago. If “the middle” responded as they did 50 years ago, the GOP would have gone the way of the Whigs years ago. “The middle” is as brainwashed by the soft core GOP propaganda by the major channels as the right is by the hard core GOP propaganda on Fox and OAN and worse.
3) Seriously. Get an effing clue, “MoDeRaTe.” The GOP has declared open season on our children. And you’re out here doing they’re dirty work for them like a simpering ninny who wants to suckle at the hind teat of power.


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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.


Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."



The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.


I guess you felt it was too soon?


Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.


DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.


PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.


I am the PP who said that I understand what you're saying. Beto's "stunt" won't move any needle, I agree with you about that. I don't think it will sink him, like you're saying, though.

But Beto isn't the issue - the murdered children are the issue. Beto won't move any needle. But Robb Elementary School may.


If the needle does not move he is 10 plus points down. That is my point. We already know from Sandy Hook that this will not move gun rights supporters. The middle will go for some issues: increased spending on mental health, increased school security and infrastructure, issues like background checks, waiting periods, high capacity magazines. There are likely some others as well like ending gun shows. But those people are not moving on broader issues.


Oh, are we just talking about Beto? Or are we talking about all of those some issues and broader issues?

All of the posts about Sandy Hook, saying the conversation is already over. The past doesn't control the future. The conversation is starting.
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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.


Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."



The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.


I guess you felt it was too soon?


Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.


DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.


PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.


I am the PP who said that I understand what you're saying. Beto's "stunt" won't move any needle, I agree with you about that. I don't think it will sink him, like you're saying, though.

But Beto isn't the issue - the murdered children are the issue. Beto won't move any needle. But Robb Elementary School may.


If the needle does not move he is 10 plus points down. That is my point. We already know from Sandy Hook that this will not move gun rights supporters. The middle will go for some issues: increased spending on mental health, increased school security and infrastructure, issues like background checks, waiting periods, high capacity magazines. There are likely some others as well like ending gun shows. But those people are not moving on broader issues.


Oh, are we just talking about Beto? Or are we talking about all of those some issues and broader issues?

All of the posts about Sandy Hook, saying the conversation is already over. The past doesn't control the future. The conversation is starting.

+1

I don’t have high hopes because Republican voters - yes, even you MoDeRaTeS - are blood thirsty monsters who need to be sated by the blood of innocents, but this one hits different for some reason. Maybe because of the cruelty of the police officers who failed to do their job. Maybe because sometimes there’s just one too many hits. Maybe because it comes on the heap of Republicans being general wastes of space.
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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.


Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."



The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.


I guess you felt it was too soon?


Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.


DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.


PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.


I am the PP who said that I understand what you're saying. Beto's "stunt" won't move any needle, I agree with you about that. I don't think it will sink him, like you're saying, though.

But Beto isn't the issue - the murdered children are the issue. Beto won't move any needle. But Robb Elementary School may.


If the needle does not move he is 10 plus points down. That is my point. We already know from Sandy Hook that this will not move gun rights supporters. The middle will go for some issues: increased spending on mental health, increased school security and infrastructure, issues like background checks, waiting periods, high capacity magazines. There are likely some others as well like ending gun shows. But those people are not moving on broader issues.


Oh, are we just talking about Beto? Or are we talking about all of those some issues and broader issues?

All of the posts about Sandy Hook, saying the conversation is already over. The past doesn't control the future. The conversation is starting.

+1

I don’t have high hopes because Republican voters - yes, even you MoDeRaTeS - are blood thirsty monsters who need to be sated by the blood of innocents, but this one hits different for some reason. Maybe because of the cruelty of the police officers who failed to do their job. Maybe because sometimes there’s just one too many hits. Maybe because it comes on the heap of Republicans being general wastes of space.


I think because it is so raw so recent. I don’t see this altering anything except maybe some bi-partisan federal legislation on red flag laws and hopefully some other items. As to the cruelty of the police, we need to understand what happened. That is going to take a couple of weeks. Not sure I would judge quite yet but there are certainly questions.
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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.


Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."



The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.


I guess you felt it was too soon?


Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.


DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.


PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.


I am the PP who said that I understand what you're saying. Beto's "stunt" won't move any needle, I agree with you about that. I don't think it will sink him, like you're saying, though.

But Beto isn't the issue - the murdered children are the issue. Beto won't move any needle. But Robb Elementary School may.


If the needle does not move he is 10 plus points down. That is my point. We already know from Sandy Hook that this will not move gun rights supporters. The middle will go for some issues: increased spending on mental health, increased school security and infrastructure, issues like background checks, waiting periods, high capacity magazines. There are likely some others as well like ending gun shows. But those people are not moving on broader issues.


Oh, are we just talking about Beto? Or are we talking about all of those some issues and broader issues?

All of the posts about Sandy Hook, saying the conversation is already over. The past doesn't control the future. The conversation is starting.

+1

I don’t have high hopes because Republican voters - yes, even you MoDeRaTeS - are blood thirsty monsters who need to be sated by the blood of innocents, but this one hits different for some reason. Maybe because of the cruelty of the police officers who failed to do their job. Maybe because sometimes there’s just one too many hits. Maybe because it comes on the heap of Republicans being general wastes of space.


I think because it is so raw so recent. I don’t see this altering anything except maybe some bi-partisan federal legislation on red flag laws and hopefully some other items. As to the cruelty of the police, we need to understand what happened. That is going to take a couple of weeks. Not sure I would judge quite yet but there are certainly questions.


It is school children.

This is a parent forum. Nearly every poster has children. This hits us to the core.
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Sure enough, he has once again changed his positions on guns.



The Internet Archives' Wayback Machine shows that as recently as April 1, the "Gun safety" page included a section that said: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I strongly believe that we need to reduce the number of AR-15’s and AK-47’s on our streets."

Sometime since April 1 (the most recent date archived), the campaign edited the section to say: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I don't believe any civilian should own an AR-15 or AK-47."

O'Rourke had previously dialed back his aggressiveness on gun control after falling behind incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in the polls.
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Anonymous wrote:Sure enough, he has once again changed his positions on guns.



The Internet Archives' Wayback Machine shows that as recently as April 1, the "Gun safety" page included a section that said: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I strongly believe that we need to reduce the number of AR-15’s and AK-47’s on our streets."

Sometime since April 1 (the most recent date archived), the campaign edited the section to say: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I don't believe any civilian should own an AR-15 or AK-47."

O'Rourke had previously dialed back his aggressiveness on gun control after falling behind incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in the polls.


Maybe the Buffalo shooting. Or any of the other million shootings with AR-15s made him change his mind.

He’d have my vote for sure.
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Anonymous wrote:Sure enough, he has once again changed his positions on guns.



The Internet Archives' Wayback Machine shows that as recently as April 1, the "Gun safety" page included a section that said: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I strongly believe that we need to reduce the number of AR-15’s and AK-47’s on our streets."

Sometime since April 1 (the most recent date archived), the campaign edited the section to say: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I don't believe any civilian should own an AR-15 or AK-47."

O'Rourke had previously dialed back his aggressiveness on gun control after falling behind incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in the polls.


Maybe the Buffalo shooting. Or any of the other million shootings with AR-15s made him change his mind.

He’d have my vote for sure.


Or, maybe he doesn't really stand for anything. He simply changes his position based on which way the wind is blowing.
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Anonymous wrote:Sure enough, he has once again changed his positions on guns.



The Internet Archives' Wayback Machine shows that as recently as April 1, the "Gun safety" page included a section that said: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I strongly believe that we need to reduce the number of AR-15’s and AK-47’s on our streets."

Sometime since April 1 (the most recent date archived), the campaign edited the section to say: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I don't believe any civilian should own an AR-15 or AK-47."

O'Rourke had previously dialed back his aggressiveness on gun control after falling behind incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in the polls.


Maybe the Buffalo shooting. Or any of the other million shootings with AR-15s made him change his mind.

He’d have my vote for sure.


Or, maybe he doesn't really stand for anything. He simply changes his position based on which way the wind is blowing.


That's not always a bad thing, like in this case.
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Anonymous wrote:Sure enough, he has once again changed his positions on guns.



The Internet Archives' Wayback Machine shows that as recently as April 1, the "Gun safety" page included a section that said: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I strongly believe that we need to reduce the number of AR-15’s and AK-47’s on our streets."

Sometime since April 1 (the most recent date archived), the campaign edited the section to say: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I don't believe any civilian should own an AR-15 or AK-47."

O'Rourke had previously dialed back his aggressiveness on gun control after falling behind incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in the polls.


Maybe the Buffalo shooting. Or any of the other million shootings with AR-15s made him change his mind.

He’d have my vote for sure.


Or, maybe he doesn't really stand for anything. He simply changes his position based on which way the wind is blowing.


That's not always a bad thing, like in this case.



Yes. The majority of Americans - even Republicans - want to ban assault weapons.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/poll-most-voters-support-assault-weapons-ban-1452586


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I want politicians who listen to voters and do what we need. Abbott is not that person
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Anonymous wrote:Sure enough, he has once again changed his positions on guns.



The Internet Archives' Wayback Machine shows that as recently as April 1, the "Gun safety" page included a section that said: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I strongly believe that we need to reduce the number of AR-15’s and AK-47’s on our streets."

Sometime since April 1 (the most recent date archived), the campaign edited the section to say: "And while it might not be the easy or politically safe thing to say, I don't believe any civilian should own an AR-15 or AK-47."

O'Rourke had previously dialed back his aggressiveness on gun control after falling behind incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in the polls.


Maybe the Buffalo shooting. Or any of the other million shootings with AR-15s made him change his mind.

He’d have my vote for sure.


Or, maybe he doesn't really stand for anything. He simply changes his position based on which way the wind is blowing.


That's not always a bad thing, like in this case.



Yes. The majority of Americans - even Republicans - want to ban assault weapons.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/poll-most-voters-support-assault-weapons-ban-1452586




First of all, define "assault weapon." Even the nominee as ATF head has refused to do that. Why?
Secondly, that article is 3 years old. Long before the summer of 2020 where we saw violence across the nation and gun ownership shot up substantially.

There are over 20 million AR-15 type weapons legally in circulation. Do you believe these should be confiscated?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/inside-rise-ar-15-style-rifles-america/story?id=78842406
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