If the needle does not move he is 10 plus points down. That is my point. We already know from Sandy Hook that this will not move gun rights supporters. The middle will go for some issues: increased spending on mental health, increased school security and infrastructure, issues like background checks, waiting periods, high capacity magazines. There are likely some others as well like ending gun shows. But those people are not moving on broader issues. |
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Oh, are we just talking about Beto? Or are we talking about all of those some issues and broader issues? All of the posts about Sandy Hook, saying the conversation is already over. The past doesn't control the future. The conversation is starting. |
+1 I don’t have high hopes because Republican voters - yes, even you MoDeRaTeS - are blood thirsty monsters who need to be sated by the blood of innocents, but this one hits different for some reason. Maybe because of the cruelty of the police officers who failed to do their job. Maybe because sometimes there’s just one too many hits. Maybe because it comes on the heap of Republicans being general wastes of space. |
I think because it is so raw so recent. I don’t see this altering anything except maybe some bi-partisan federal legislation on red flag laws and hopefully some other items. As to the cruelty of the police, we need to understand what happened. That is going to take a couple of weeks. Not sure I would judge quite yet but there are certainly questions. |
It is school children. This is a parent forum. Nearly every poster has children. This hits us to the core. |
You would know. |
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The tweets from the cancer guy about Abbot's representative are fake. They have been removed.
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Yes. The majority of Americans - even Republicans - want to ban assault weapons. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/poll-most-voters-support-assault-weapons-ban-1452586 |
| I want politicians who listen to voters and do what we need. Abbott is not that person |
First of all, define "assault weapon." Even the nominee as ATF head has refused to do that. Why? Secondly, that article is 3 years old. Long before the summer of 2020 where we saw violence across the nation and gun ownership shot up substantially. There are over 20 million AR-15 type weapons legally in circulation. Do you believe these should be confiscated? https://abcnews.go.com/US/inside-rise-ar-15-style-rifles-america/story?id=78842406 |