What did protestor say at Abbott press conference?

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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

Which rock have you been under? All political and "appropriateness" rules have been out the window since 2016.

Sure. But this is not an appropriateness rule. It is a political rule. Even where the the country has changed these rules have not. For the bases sure but not the middle. The middle responds as they did 50 years ago. Not sure why people don’t get it.

The country has become more polarized than it was 50 years ago. Especially everytime another mass shooting happens, and especially when that mass shooting is at a school.

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In hindsight, Beto actually knew the f#ckery that was happening and the lies being spewed by Abbott at the press conference about the police response.

I didn't think it was great move by Beto yesterday. But after seeing more context, he going to end up being vindicated.

The real rub is if the CBP officers who lost their kids will break ranks and go public with criticism.

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Powerful campaign slogan.

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Powerful campaign slogan.

Because it’s the truth. The GOP is offering up our children as human sacrifices to their god of violence and I for one am sick of it.

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Texan here. It's a real shitshow in this state.

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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

Which rock have you been under? All political and "appropriateness" rules have been out the window since 2016.

Sure. But this is not an appropriateness rule. It is a political rule. Even where the the country has changed these rules have not. For the bases sure but not the middle. The middle responds as they did 50 years ago. Not sure why people don’t get it.

1) where oh where is this political rule written down? And you’re sure it’s never been broken? Even though Abbott was flat out telling lies for political purposes?
2) Like fun the “the middle” responds as they did 50 years ago. If “the middle” responded as they did 50 years ago, the GOP would have gone the way of the Whigs years ago. “The middle” is as brainwashed by the soft core GOP propaganda by the major channels as the right is by the hard core GOP propaganda on Fox and OAN and worse.
3) Seriously. Get an effing clue, “MoDeRaTe.” The GOP has declared open season on our children. And you’re out here doing they’re dirty work for them like a simpering ninny who wants to suckle at the hind teat of power.

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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

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And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.

PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.

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This is laughable. "Oh, Ted Cruz almost jumped off the stage to silence someone speaking out against murdering children - what a hero!"

Beto was doing what he does best.... pulling a political stunt to get attention on himself.
He is an immature narcissist.

You are outraged at the wrong thing. And it's pretty gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beto is not done because there is a long way to the election. But this will play only to his base which in Texas is 25% of the vote. The middle in Texas is about 30%. That group leans right center. This will not play with them. This was a bad day for Beto. But other events may turn the tide. If I were running against him in Texas I would wait until September and go up with an ad that has Beto crashing in and the mayor saying this was no place for this conduct and Texas deserves better.

Great because then Beto could run an ad with Abbott saying Texas deserves better and O'Rourke says, "I agree and here I am."

The mayor would be saying that about Beto --- kinda does not work in reverse except for the base. This election in Texas is a fight for the middle. The middle is further right than the middle other places. Gun rights in Texas extend well into democrats as well. If I were advising Beto I would have told him to wait for the funerals to be over and deliver a major address that outlined sensible gun control for Texas. That could have made some inroads int he middle. This stunt will not.

I guess you felt it was too soon?

Politics have rules. One is you can’t as the non incumbent do anything political before funerals at the place where stuff happened. You can go somewhere else or you can wait. Incumbents can go and do stuff like Abbott was doing. Not fair but that is what the public accepts. Has not changed since 1900. Remember Beto has to convince center right independents to vote for him. They are the ones that follow the rules. An activist on the left or right says screw the rules. Their base loves it. The center never does.

DP. I understand what you're saying. I grew up in Texas and I don't think Beto has a chance. Or I didn't.

Like most lawyers (and most on DCUM), I'm a conservative person in the classical sense and I understand what you mean about rules and appropriateness and what incumbents/leaders do as opposed to challengers. But Robb Elementary School is grade school kids. It's not politics or appropriateness or respect before a funeral. It's 19 dead children.

+1
And Abbott was bold faced lying for political gain. Here the Republicans (“MoDeRaTeS”) go again trying to enforce rules differently for Democrats. Beto was telling the truth.

PP here. Fine disagree with me. We will see what happens. Just offering my perspective. Only push back is that elections and politics have not changed. You may think they have but the have not. National elections and issues like gun control are all about convincing a small slice of the population to either move or care. Nothing Beto did was for either. He is playing to his base. They like it. But they are not the deciders. Move someone who believes in gun rights a little or moderately. That is how change happens.

I am the PP who said that I understand what you're saying. Beto's "stunt" won't move any needle, I agree with you about that. I don't think it will sink him, like you're saying, though.

But Beto isn't the issue - the murdered children are the issue. Beto won't move any needle. But Robb Elementary School may.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, it is Beto's direct confrontation that is getting the press, whereas his much more powerful tirade in the parking lot after getting ejected was articulate and devastating: Abbott was on that stage bleating about mental health when all of his political actions: denying medical expansion, and cutting mental health funding from the state budget (just to name two), directly contradicted his crocodile tears.