No change in coivd cases and deaths after spring break and no masks wtf

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of Natural immunity since so many people had covid at Christmas. Cases reporting is low because people aren’t getting PCR anymore. Hospitalizations will lag.

Hospitalizations and death rate is what really matters. Flu-like symptoms at home will always be around for susceptible individuals. Work to beef up your immunity if you want.

How do you “beef up” your immunity?

Staying locked at home. Not in taking sun (vitamin D). Consuming fast food and processed crap. Not doing exercise. Watching a LOT of tv, especially mainstream media hammering fear and paranoia non stop.

THATS EXACTLY HOW YOU BEEF UP YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM

And, what if we are doing those things? You cannot beef up your immune system and stop covid based off just eating better and taking vitamin D. Grow up.

Why don't you read articles about the benefits of vitamin D, sunshine, exercise, healthy food before dismissing it out of hand? Its not a "cure" for covid obviously, but a leading cause of covid mortality is obesity - so better exercise / not being overweight would be generally beneficial and increase survival odds. It probably would have made economic sense (to reduce hospitalization costs) if everyone could have been paid more to exercise during the pandemic.

Vitamin d is important but you are looking for drama when that’s not why people are getting Covid. You can be very healthy and get Covid.

And the statistical likelihood of COVID being anything other than a weak flu or bad cold like experience is essentially zero if you control for your own health and don’t have some condition not of your own making. That’s the truth.

The pandemic is over. Cower in the corner if you want. The rest of humanity is moving on.

There is no humanity with people like you. Personally I don't want a flu or bad cold...I dont get why you would.

So you’re going to wear a mask and face shield for the rest of your life so you don’t ever get a cold or the flu? Impressive! Let me know how that goes.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

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If you actually follow the numbers, nothing is “exploding” anywhere. Going up a bit, maybe.

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Masks don't seem to make a difference:

https://www.city-journal.org/the-failed-covid-policy-of-mask-mandates

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Anonymous wrote:Those of us who left the area for break can confirm that Covid precautions are literally non existent except here. This area is so weird.

When I got off the plane in Orlando last week, I saw airport workers and sheriff's deputies in the terminal who weren't wearing masks.

Once we walked out of the terminal, maybe 1% of the people we saw were masked during our time there.

Something happened to a lot of people in this area that broke them during this pandemic.

I guess only broken people want to avoid getting a novel virus that causes long-term symptoms in an unknown percentage of those infected. I suppose only broken people would prefer not to have their lives disrupted by illness, want to avoid having to isolate themselves from infected family members, or risk infecting vulnerable people. That makes perfect sense.

This. Most smarter people are continuing to wear masks as they go about interacting with others.

Think it's about two weeks too soon to declare victory over spring break; most people aren't going to announce they are testing positive at home. I mean, hopefully hospitalizations will stay flat and this will start becoming endemic, but it's really too soon to tell.

So your theory is that people outside the DMV are universally dumb beyond the tiny percentage of people still masking in other areas? You think people in DC are just more informed and inherently better at risk assessment than people who live in places like NYC, Boston, Chicago, LA, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle? Not just red states, but in very liberal areas with lots of highly educated progressives? For that matter, what about most of Canada and Europe, as well? Your saying DC is just smarter and better than people all these other places, that we alone understand Covid, the we are the only ones properly estimating the risk?

Is it at least a little big possible you are wrong about this? Do you have any doubts at all about it or are you 100% on it?

People who are COVID cautious follow other aspects of public health advice, not just what is convenient. That means testing when you have symptoms or staying home, isolating a positive family member when possible, having other family members wear high-quality masks outside of the house when indoors or in crowded outdoor settings for 10 days after last exposure, and testing family members 5 days after last exposure. That can be onerous, especially for larger families, especially at times when being out sick would be inconvenient. For me, avoiding those measures is reason enough to be cautious.

I don't know if it is smarter or if following this advice makes anyone a better person, but it definitely makes people who take measures to avoid infecting other people more compassionate human beings.

If you say you are following the science/public health guidance and also are "done with masks" you aren't following public health guidance and aren't willing to accept any inconvenience if you become infected to avoid infecting others.

So you think that people out the DMV are just lying about following other aspects of public health advice. You think that since they no longer wear masks outdoors or in certain indoor environments that the CDC has said it is okay for unvaccinated people to unmask, that means they aren't testing or isolating with exposures? You assume that they are jus doing what is convenient, that they are hypocrites when they say they are following CDC advice, that it's just a ruse to avoid wearing masks?

Have you... met people from other areas? My extended family is Covid cautious. They masked for a long time, but mask a lot less since getting vaccinated. There was a brief period of remarking during Omicron, but when it passed they stopped masking again. Some of them work in healthcare so they of course mask at work. But they go to restaurants, travel, etc. They are all vaccinated and boosted, some twice. Some have high risk factors and they mask more than others. They don't freak out when the see unmasked people in stores. They all test as appropriate and of course isolate with symptoms. Many of them got Covid during the Omicron surge and they stayed home and quarantined as they were supposed to.

And yet if you went to where they live, you'd see lots of unmasked people just living their lives. Not stupid people or Trump lovers. Not anti-vaxers or anti-maskers. Intelligent, educated people making rational choices for themselves and their family. There would be whole days that would go by when you wouldn't even think about Covid. You might see a few people in masks and not think anything of it, assume they were high risk or that they had a cold or that they just preferred to wear a mask.

This is much of the country now. DC is the only place I know of where people are still FREAKING OUT about this and constantly trying to one-up each other for being the most Covid-cautious, for being the people doing the pandemic the best. I know people all over the country and I don't know anywhere like this.

When you are the outlier, you have to ask yourself if you might be the one doing it wrong. Like you might just want to consider that people in DC are not better, smarter, more virtuous, more educated, or more informed than everyone else on the planet. Just throwing it out there.

PP here, and I never said anything about freaking out about unvaccinated or unmasked people. I also never said anything about mask mandates or avoiding activities. You are talking about right versus wrong.

I simply said that if you take COVID seriously, you accept your personal risk and the responsibility to try to avoid spreading it if your family gets COVID. For some people, efforts to avoid infection by way of masking or avoiding crowded indoor settings aren't as onerous as others think they are. I would much rather mask in the airport than be sick on my vacation. If masking cuts down on the chance of being sick, why is that "wrong"? Why does it bother you so much if others mask?

By the way, I just returned from a trip to a red state where I spoke with people who are masking, including servers, Uber drivers, and others we met. Their reasons were the same as most of us here - they have vulnerable family members that they live with or care for, they have medical conditions that put them at higher risk of a bad outcome from COVID, they have medical conditions that might not necessary not put them at greater risk from COVID, but which make them more cautious about the possibility of long COVID, they have young children at home, etc. These people are out there. Why judging them so important to you?

Then why are you even arguing with me? The whole point of this back and forth was that you (or some PP) argued that if you are "smart" you will mask indoors at all times. And this was brought up to counter the earlier argument that only in DC is masking this widespread and are people as militant about it, that in other parts of the country, even liberal, pro-science, pro-vax and pro-mask areas, people do not mask are extensively as they do here nor are they as insistent that others mask even if they do mask.

No one is suggesting you shouldn't mask in the airport. I mask in the airport! Rather, we are saying that this smug insistence that "only smart" people mask in the place you mask is bizarre. As though there is no other conclusion any person could possible make about Covid precautions than the one you, personally, have made.

+1. Also everyone here seems to think they are “vulnerable” even though statistically speaking this is one of the healthier metro areas of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:How's this possible. Shouldn't there be a spike like every holiday.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I know it’s hard to comprehend when the narrative you’ve been fed doesn’t prove to be true.

Thoughts and prayers.

There is a huge spike in cases in the northeast and DC. I know several people who have covid right now. Yes, it’s been mild for them, but it hasn’t disappeared. It’s continuing to mutate. I wish like hell it would go away because I’m going through chemo for stage 4 cancer and would prefer not to die of covid while I’m fighting the cancer.

Places that have had the lowest case rates throughout the pandemic will have the highest continued vulnerability because they have the lowest levels of natural immunity (which is stronger than vaccine immunity against variants, though you can still get reinfected). If I were medically vulnerable, I'd be hoping for everyone else to take off masks and let it rip at this point, providing me with the highest possible "herd" protection, since the vaccines aren't great.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

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If you actually follow the numbers, nothing is “exploding” anywhere. Going up a bit, maybe.

Per wastewater data, cases are not exploding. There is a slight uptick many places as would be expected with the relaxation of restrictions.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

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If you actually follow the numbers, nothing is “exploding” anywhere. Going up a bit, maybe.

I’ve noticed a really big jump in cases reported at both of my kids schools. Also, lots of people in my office are reporting Covid cases. Obviously anecdotal, but it’s striking how large the increase in cases has been for these groups. Fortunately, our area has very high vaccination rates, so this doesn’t seem to be causing a jump in severe illnesses. I’m pretty confident that Covid won’t kill me, but I’ve got a lot going on with the end of the school year and graduation and a nasty cold would be really inconvenient, so I’m really trying to avoid catching it.

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Everyone I know who has Covid right now or who is just getting over it are people who have never had it before. I think it's just going to catch more "infection naive" people in each subsequent wave (wavelet?) until basically everyone gets it. The most cautious, conscientious people I know are getting it now. If DC area has a higher number of people without natural immunity, then yeah more people are going to catch it when it's going around again if you compare to a place where many people caught in a previous wave. I'm not saying people can't get reinfected, but it seems a lot more likely that you will get Covid right now if you haven't had a vaccine in awhile and have not yet had the virus. Those people are kind of ripe for the picking right now because the vaccines don't protect from infection all that long (just severe disease).

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

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If you actually follow the numbers, nothing is “exploding” anywhere. Going up a bit, maybe.

Per wastewater data, cases are not exploding. There is a slight uptick many places as would be expected with the relaxation of restrictions.

The number of cases are going up significantly. And this number is huge undercount because so many people are using home tests and not reporting.

From NYT Covid tracker for the entire country
Positives 4/20: 62,898
7-day daily avg: 43,357
Positives Per 100,000: 13
14 day change +49%

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

I have eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

I have eyes.

NP. So you are relying on your personal anecdotal experience?

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

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If you actually follow the numbers, nothing is “exploding” anywhere. Going up a bit, maybe.

Per wastewater data, cases are not exploding. There is a slight uptick many places as would be expected with the relaxation of restrictions.

The number of cases are going up significantly. And this number is huge undercount because so many people are using home tests and not reporting.

From NYT Covid tracker for the entire country
Positives 4/20: 62,898
7-day daily avg: 43,357
Positives Per 100,000: 13
14 day change +49%

Well, that is good news, because it means the very vast majority of infections are asymptomatic or very mild.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

+1
If you actually follow the numbers, nothing is “exploding” anywhere. Going up a bit, maybe.

Per wastewater data, cases are not exploding. There is a slight uptick many places as would be expected with the relaxation of restrictions.

The number of cases are going up significantly. And this number is huge undercount because so many people are using home tests and not reporting.

From NYT Covid tracker for the entire country
Positives 4/20: 62,898
7-day daily avg: 43,357
Positives Per 100,000: 13
14 day change +49%

Who cares about case numbers? They are mostly mild anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two of my close friends and their families have it after spring break trips. But they home tested. Cases are exploding. It’s just not being recorded as well.

So if they're not being "recorded as well", how do you know cases are "exploding"? What are you basing this on? Post some actual data, not what you hope is happening to help prove your point.

I have eyes.

NP. So you are relying on your personal anecdotal experience?

Well she clearly is the Covid police so,she must know better than everyone else 🤷‍♀️