U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

I agree with you but it does reach a point where it's time to just put an end to the bickering. Let TJ return to use as a neighborhood school or have it serve as a full-time Academy program offering specialized, challenging courses available only at TJ to students who attend their base schools for their other classes, but both sides need to realize how they are degrading FCPS by allowing so much attention to be focused on a single school to the exclusion of other schools.

The Coalition for TJ and the TJAAG are both full of preening narcissists equally wedded to their own visions of what TJ should be (and completely disinterested in the other 97% of FCPS kids). And this ridiculous, utterly incompetent School Board that set the stage for this to happen needs to be sent packing next year - every last one of them.

I don't see why that's the preferable outcome versus having TJ continue to be a school where applicants are evaluated based on merit against standardized assessments. Sure there are preening narcissists, but just because a preening narcissist likes the taste of a banana, doesn't change the fact that bananas are delicious and healthy. There is a place in our society for merit-based identification and advancement of young scholars. There may be other goals that we as a society want to achieve and we can have those as additional programs. Let TJ remain doing what it has done so well as to earn the top rank among the nation's high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

I agree with you but it does reach a point where it's time to just put an end to the bickering. Let TJ return to use as a neighborhood school or have it serve as a full-time Academy program offering specialized, challenging courses available only at TJ to students who attend their base schools for their other classes, but both sides need to realize how they are degrading FCPS by allowing so much attention to be focused on a single school to the exclusion of other schools.

The Coalition for TJ and the TJAAG are both full of preening narcissists equally wedded to their own visions of what TJ should be (and completely disinterested in the other 97% of FCPS kids). And this ridiculous, utterly incompetent School Board that set the stage for this to happen needs to be sent packing next year - every last one of them.

I don't see why that's the preferable outcome versus having TJ continue to be a school where applicants are evaluated based on merit against standardized assessments. Sure there are preening narcissists, but just because a preening narcissist likes the taste of a banana, doesn't change the fact that bananas are delicious and healthy. There is a place in our society for merit-based identification and advancement of young scholars. There may be other goals that we as a society want to achieve and we can have those as additional programs. Let TJ remain doing what it has done so well as to earn the top rank among the nation's high schools.

DP. The declining application numbers are an indicator that something needs improving at TJ, the "top HS in the nation".

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts could have denied the application on his own but he did not. Instead, Roberts referred the matter for the full court because he wants to grant it but not on his own.

He will vote with the majority to grant to vacate. That way, the emergency application is granted and there will be no record of who voted for it and who voted against it and no explanation as well. That way, the application is granted and Roberts didn't have to do it alone and do it publicly.

Looks like the application to vacate will be granted by the full court unsigned unexplained but with precedential value.

Those idiot SB members didn't know they single-handedly ended any affirmative actions for K-12.

Geographic distribution a la Texas or California isn't affirmative action.

It's not just the geographic distribution, but also the "experience factor", as well as the racist intent. Essentially, the geographic distribution is being used as a proxy for race.

In general - I don’t think having some kids from every MS is a bad idea actually.

That's not a bad idea, for a different educational program. TJ's goal is to identify and educate the best students based on demonstrated capability. TJ is not a remedial learning center for under-served communities.

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts could have denied the application on his own but he did not. Instead, Roberts referred the matter for the full court because he wants to grant it but not on his own.

He will vote with the majority to grant to vacate. That way, the emergency application is granted and there will be no record of who voted for it and who voted against it and no explanation as well. That way, the application is granted and Roberts didn't have to do it alone and do it publicly.

Looks like the application to vacate will be granted by the full court unsigned unexplained but with precedential value.

Those idiot SB members didn't know they single-handedly ended any affirmative actions for K-12.

Geographic distribution a la Texas or California isn't affirmative action.

It's not just the geographic distribution, but also the "experience factor", as well as the racist intent. Essentially, the geographic distribution is being used as a proxy for race.

In general - I don’t think having some kids from every MS is a bad idea actually.

That's not a bad idea, for a different educational program. TJ's goal is to identify and educate the best students based on demonstrated capability. TJ is not a remedial learning center for under-served communities.

It's okay for the best college systems in the country but not for TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts could have denied the application on his own but he did not. Instead, Roberts referred the matter for the full court because he wants to grant it but not on his own.

He will vote with the majority to grant to vacate. That way, the emergency application is granted and there will be no record of who voted for it and who voted against it and no explanation as well. That way, the application is granted and Roberts didn't have to do it alone and do it publicly.

Looks like the application to vacate will be granted by the full court unsigned unexplained but with precedential value.

Those idiot SB members didn't know they single-handedly ended any affirmative actions for K-12.

Geographic distribution a la Texas or California isn't affirmative action.

It's not just the geographic distribution, but also the "experience factor", as well as the racist intent. Essentially, the geographic distribution is being used as a proxy for race.

In general - I don’t think having some kids from every MS is a bad idea actually.

That's not a bad idea, for a different educational program. TJ's goal is to identify and educate the best students based on demonstrated capability. TJ is not a remedial learning center for under-served communities.

I would start, by having some kind non preppable surprise test, then.

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

FCPS already does this and does it well. You don't even know. Just attack attack attack.

Apparently it's not enough since black and latino students are severely under represented in TJ, that's the point. I know the work of educating kids is hard, but that's not an excuse to engage in racist policies.

Very strange post. You seem to agree that the numbers of Black and Latino students are very low at TJ but then you call efforts to address this "racist". I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Just everything?

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

I agree with you but it does reach a point where it's time to just put an end to the bickering. Let TJ return to use as a neighborhood school or have it serve as a full-time Academy program offering specialized, challenging courses available only at TJ to students who attend their base schools for their other classes, but both sides need to realize how they are degrading FCPS by allowing so much attention to be focused on a single school to the exclusion of other schools.

The Coalition for TJ and the TJAAG are both full of preening narcissists equally wedded to their own visions of what TJ should be (and completely disinterested in the other 97% of FCPS kids). And this ridiculous, utterly incompetent School Board that set the stage for this to happen needs to be sent packing next year - every last one of them.

I don't see why that's the preferable outcome versus having TJ continue to be a school where applicants are evaluated based on merit against standardized assessments. Sure there are preening narcissists, but just because a preening narcissist likes the taste of a banana, doesn't change the fact that bananas are delicious and healthy. There is a place in our society for merit-based identification and advancement of young scholars. There may be other goals that we as a society want to achieve and we can have those as additional programs. Let TJ remain doing what it has done so well as to earn the top rank among the nation's high schools.

DP. The declining application numbers are an indicator that something needs improving at TJ, the "top HS in the nation".

Not really. TJ was seen as an option for many families who bought homes in neighborhoods served by less than stellar high schools. FCPS has gone to great lengths to strengthen the curriculum offered at base schools, expanding AAP services, to the point where many of those families no longer saw the need to apply to TJ. Also, Basis opened its school location in Tysons, offering a rigorous and challenging curriculum that has also earned Basis the distinction of being among the highest-ranked high schools in the nation. In other words, TJ got additional competition, and thus reduced application numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

FCPS already does this and does it well. You don't even know. Just attack attack attack.

Apparently it's not enough since black and latino students are severely under represented in TJ, that's the point. I know the work of educating kids is hard, but that's not an excuse to engage in racist policies.

Very strange post. You seem to agree that the numbers of Black and Latino students are very low at TJ but then you call efforts to address this "racist". I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Just everything?

Not sure what you find strange. Efforts to address the achievement of black and Latino students are needed, but they cannot be based on racist policies. Or are you arguing that the only way we can help black and Latino students is to rely on racist discrimination aginst Asians?

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

FCPS already does this and does it well. You don't even know. Just attack attack attack.

Apparently it's not enough since black and latino students are severely under represented in TJ, that's the point. I know the work of educating kids is hard, but that's not an excuse to engage in racist policies.

Very strange post. You seem to agree that the numbers of Black and Latino students are very low at TJ but then you call efforts to address this "racist". I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Just everything?

Not sure what you find strange. Efforts to address the achievement of black and Latino students are needed, but they cannot be based on racist policies. Or are you arguing that the only way we can help black and Latino students is to rely on racist discrimination aginst Asians?

Numerically, any increase in admitted Black and Latino students will result in fewer admitted Asian students. They increased the class size so that the decrease was offset somewhat.

You're saying that any change in numbers will be racist. That's very strange.

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

FCPS already does this and does it well. You don't even know. Just attack attack attack.

Apparently it's not enough since black and latino students are severely under represented in TJ, that's the point. I know the work of educating kids is hard, but that's not an excuse to engage in racist policies.

Very strange post. You seem to agree that the numbers of Black and Latino students are very low at TJ but then you call efforts to address this "racist". I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Just everything?

Not sure what you find strange. Efforts to address the achievement of black and Latino students are needed, but they cannot be based on racist policies. Or are you arguing that the only way we can help black and Latino students is to rely on racist discrimination aginst Asians?

Numerically, any increase in admitted Black and Latino students will result in fewer admitted Asian students. They increased the class size so that the decrease was offset somewhat.

You're saying that any change in numbers will be racist. That's very strange.

We are not the ones who set the new rules and then texted that they seemed anti Asian. Ask Abrar what she meant.

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts could have denied the application on his own but he did not. Instead, Roberts referred the matter for the full court because he wants to grant it but not on his own.

He will vote with the majority to grant to vacate. That way, the emergency application is granted and there will be no record of who voted for it and who voted against it and no explanation as well. That way, the application is granted and Roberts didn't have to do it alone and do it publicly.

Looks like the application to vacate will be granted by the full court unsigned unexplained but with precedential value.

Those idiot SB members didn't know they single-handedly ended any affirmative actions for K-12.

Geographic distribution a la Texas or California isn't affirmative action.

It's not just the geographic distribution, but also the "experience factor", as well as the racist intent. Essentially, the geographic distribution is being used as a proxy for race.

In general - I don’t think having some kids from every MS is a bad idea actually.

That's not a bad idea, for a different educational program. TJ's goal is to identify and educate the best students based on demonstrated capability. TJ is not a remedial learning center for under-served communities.

I would start, by having some kind non preppable surprise test, then.

All tests are preparable. That's the definition of any meaningful test - which is to test relevant knowledge or ability, which in turn is a reflection of how one has gained such knowledge or ability through learning and practice. Reading a history book to study the subject that will be covered on an exam is prepping. Learning how to solve geometry problems is prepping for geometry tests. Reading a novel and writing a book report is prepping for tests of reading comprehension. There is no such thing as a non-preparable test of relevant knowledge or skill.

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

FCPS already does this and does it well. You don't even know. Just attack attack attack.

Apparently it's not enough since black and latino students are severely under represented in TJ, that's the point. I know the work of educating kids is hard, but that's not an excuse to engage in racist policies.

Very strange post. You seem to agree that the numbers of Black and Latino students are very low at TJ but then you call efforts to address this "racist". I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Just everything?

Not sure what you find strange. Efforts to address the achievement of black and Latino students are needed, but they cannot be based on racist policies. Or are you arguing that the only way we can help black and Latino students is to rely on racist discrimination aginst Asians?

Numerically, any increase in admitted Black and Latino students will result in fewer admitted Asian students. They increased the class size so that the decrease was offset somewhat.

You're saying that any change in numbers will be racist. That's very strange.

Again, as has been said numerous times in this thread, disparate impact alone is not an issue. Without racist intent or explicitly racist policies, a new admission policy that resulted in lower Asian students would not have been challenged on racist grounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts could have denied the application on his own but he did not. Instead, Roberts referred the matter for the full court because he wants to grant it but not on his own.

He will vote with the majority to grant to vacate. That way, the emergency application is granted and there will be no record of who voted for it and who voted against it and no explanation as well. That way, the application is granted and Roberts didn't have to do it alone and do it publicly.

Looks like the application to vacate will be granted by the full court unsigned unexplained but with precedential value.

Those idiot SB members didn't know they single-handedly ended any affirmative actions for K-12.

Geographic distribution a la Texas or California isn't affirmative action.

It's not just the geographic distribution, but also the "experience factor", as well as the racist intent. Essentially, the geographic distribution is being used as a proxy for race.

In general - I don’t think having some kids from every MS is a bad idea actually.

That's not a bad idea, for a different educational program. TJ's goal is to identify and educate the best students based on demonstrated capability. TJ is not a remedial learning center for under-served communities.

I would start, by having some kind non preppable surprise test, then.

All tests are preparable. That's the definition of any meaningful test - which is to test relevant knowledge or ability, which in turn is a reflection of how one has gained such knowledge or ability through learning and practice. Reading a history book to study the subject that will be covered on an exam is prepping. Learning how to solve geometry problems is prepping for geometry tests. Reading a novel and writing a book report is prepping for tests of reading comprehension. There is no such thing as a non-preparable test of relevant knowledge or skill.

Aptitude tests are not supposed to be prepped for (but people do it anyway). I'm pointing this out because your post is incomplete.

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Anonymous wrote:The appeals hasn’t even ruled yet. No way the Supreme Court takes this stupid case.

This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

FCPS already does this and does it well. You don't even know. Just attack attack attack.

Apparently it's not enough since black and latino students are severely under represented in TJ, that's the point. I know the work of educating kids is hard, but that's not an excuse to engage in racist policies.

Very strange post. You seem to agree that the numbers of Black and Latino students are very low at TJ but then you call efforts to address this "racist". I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Just everything?

Not sure what you find strange. Efforts to address the achievement of black and Latino students are needed, but they cannot be based on racist policies. Or are you arguing that the only way we can help black and Latino students is to rely on racist discrimination aginst Asians?

Numerically, any increase in admitted Black and Latino students will result in fewer admitted Asian students. They increased the class size so that the decrease was offset somewhat.

You're saying that any change in numbers will be racist. That's very strange.

Again, as has been said numerous times in this thread, disparate impact alone is not an issue. Without racist intent or explicitly racist policies, a new admission policy that resulted in lower Asian students would not have been challenged on racist grounds.

That's not what PP is saying. You're putting words in her mouth, trying to make her sound sensible.

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This!

Well I think the SC is taking the question of whether they can do the admissions policy for this year while they sort out the whole thing through the courts, right?

Wednesday is April 13. It's way too late already, despite what the dissent said. Maybe they are on to next year's incoming class?

They can do a lottery very quickly. If they really want to tweak coalition for TJ, they can automatically enter every rising freshman in the county and create a waitlist for those who decline.

Keep dreaming.

my dream would be for them to just close the school

That's obvious, hon.

Sorry.

It gets closer every day. A school that becomes a right wing darling reliant on a very left wing school board is not long for this world.

Makes me sad, but here we are.

DP, but I would rather have them close the school than see FCPS spend so much time, money, and attention litigation over the composition of a single high school.

It's obscene that FCPS has over 200 schools and one school commands so much focus because the School Board was so clumsy and inartful when it decided to change the admissions process. Enough already.

They could have chosen to done things differently. Instead of implementing racist policies, they could have responded with more outreach and educational resources at schools that serve URM student population. Instead by went full racist, completely unbashful about their intentions, unreceptive to feedback and criticism from parents. They chose to make this into a big issue because they wanted the glory of remaking what is the top high school in the entire United States. They wanted that badge of honor on their progressive resume, a crowning achievement of performative intersectional justice for diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's no surprise then that they dedicated their resources towards this cause. The level of effort they have expended to defend their racist practice shows you just how much they have invested in this endeavor.

No one asked the school board to be racist. They just couldn't help it. They decided to do this themselves, with no one else to blame.

I agree with you but it does reach a point where it's time to just put an end to the bickering. Let TJ return to use as a neighborhood school or have it serve as a full-time Academy program offering specialized, challenging courses available only at TJ to students who attend their base schools for their other classes, but both sides need to realize how they are degrading FCPS by allowing so much attention to be focused on a single school to the exclusion of other schools.

The Coalition for TJ and the TJAAG are both full of preening narcissists equally wedded to their own visions of what TJ should be (and completely disinterested in the other 97% of FCPS kids). And this ridiculous, utterly incompetent School Board that set the stage for this to happen needs to be sent packing next year - every last one of them.

I don't see why that's the preferable outcome versus having TJ continue to be a school where applicants are evaluated based on merit against standardized assessments. Sure there are preening narcissists, but just because a preening narcissist likes the taste of a banana, doesn't change the fact that bananas are delicious and healthy. There is a place in our society for merit-based identification and advancement of young scholars. There may be other goals that we as a society want to achieve and we can have those as additional programs. Let TJ remain doing what it has done so well as to earn the top rank among the nation's high schools.

Please outline the path for that to happen expeditiously and in a manner that, you know, actually allows the idiots on this School Board to pay some attention to the other 97% of kids in FCPS.