NJ to teach gender lessons

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC based democrat here. Seems like many of you don’t have kids, or maybe your kids are younger or much older. This is very much being taught in DCPS, including to 6 year olds. It’s been a mess. In my observation it a) confuses many of the kids and b) very much reinforces gender stereotypes by putting them front and center. These kids are way too young to understand a complex topic. I don’t understand why Dems want to alienate their base. If the republicans ever manage to become less psycho I’m gone.

I mean we are definitely less psycho. We aren’t behind this garbage. We aren’t. There is a point where whatever perception you have about republicans and democrats needs to be stood up next to what the two parties are actually standing for and promoting today. Right now, the most sensible party is the republicans. We are not teaching a fringe belief system to 6 year olds. We aren’t opening the borders completely without regard to the impact on school systems and social service and the fentanyl issue. We aren’t obstinately refusing to use American natural resources that support American jobs and tax payers while turning to Venezuela and Iran for oil. It is time for you to get a gut check. We also aren’t anti gay or racists. We aren’t anti police. We aren’t anti-immigrant. We just believe the immigration laws on the books should be enforced. We are not the fringe crazies anymore. That is the democrats.

+ a million. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

Thank you, NJ Educator. But the folks upthread believe that respectful discourse and valuing individuals regardless of their gender or gender expression is “liberal indoctrination”. Treating others as you would want yourself to be treated is not a lesson they learned at their Sunday schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. And again. This is for 6 year olds. My 6 year olds were not ready for that. So much of the opposition is due to the very young age this is focused toward.

Here’s how the conversation happened in our family after we met a transgender person and the kids were curious.

“Some people were born a boy but feel like a girl. Some people born as a girl feel like a boy. Some people don’t really feel like a boy or girl. We call Larlx ‘they’.”

“Ok, cool. Can we go to the playground?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC based democrat here. Seems like many of you don’t have kids, or maybe your kids are younger or much older. This is very much being taught in DCPS, including to 6 year olds. It’s been a mess. In my observation it a) confuses many of the kids and b) very much reinforces gender stereotypes by putting them front and center. These kids are way too young to understand a complex topic. I don’t understand why Dems want to alienate their base. If the republicans ever manage to become less psycho I’m gone.

I mean we are definitely less psycho. We aren’t behind this garbage. We aren’t. There is a point where whatever perception you have about republicans and democrats needs to be stood up next to what the two parties are actually standing for and promoting today. Right now, the most sensible party is the republicans. We are not teaching a fringe belief system to 6 year olds. We aren’t opening the borders completely without regard to the impact on school systems and social service and the fentanyl issue. We aren’t obstinately refusing to use American natural resources that support American jobs and tax payers while turning to Venezuela and Iran for oil. It is time for you to get a gut check. We also aren’t anti gay or racists. We aren’t anti police. We aren’t anti-immigrant. We just believe the immigration laws on the books should be enforced. We are not the fringe crazies anymore. That is the democrats.

Well said. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

Thank you, NJ Educator. But the folks upthread believe that respectful discourse and valuing individuals regardless of their gender or gender expression is “liberal indoctrination”. Treating others as you would want yourself to be treated is not a lesson they learned at their Sunday schools.

You aren't either. You wouldn't want your posts to be misread as badly as you are misreading others posts. Grow up and try to be a generous good person (maybe you need these grade school lessons)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC based democrat here. Seems like many of you don’t have kids, or maybe your kids are younger or much older. This is very much being taught in DCPS, including to 6 year olds. It’s been a mess. In my observation it a) confuses many of the kids and b) very much reinforces gender stereotypes by putting them front and center. These kids are way too young to understand a complex topic. I don’t understand why Dems want to alienate their base. If the republicans ever manage to become less psycho I’m gone.

I mean we are definitely less psycho. We aren’t behind this garbage. We aren’t. There is a point where whatever perception you have about republicans and democrats needs to be stood up next to what the two parties are actually standing for and promoting today. Right now, the most sensible party is the republicans. We are not teaching a fringe belief system to 6 year olds. We aren’t opening the borders completely without regard to the impact on school systems and social service and the fentanyl issue. We aren’t obstinately refusing to use American natural resources that support American jobs and tax payers while turning to Venezuela and Iran for oil. It is time for you to get a gut check. We also aren’t anti gay or racists. We aren’t anti police. We aren’t anti-immigrant. We just believe the immigration laws on the books should be enforced. We are not the fringe crazies anymore. That is the democrats.

This. I voted D in the last 2 elections. It’s time to wake up and take notice of what the Ds stand for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

Thank you, NJ Educator. But the folks upthread believe that respectful discourse and valuing individuals regardless of their gender or gender expression is “liberal indoctrination”. Treating others as you would want yourself to be treated is not a lesson they learned at their Sunday schools.

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“Liberal indoctrination” **is** teaching kids to be respectful and value others. The golden rule.

That’s why the Rs and trans-haters are so against “indoctrination”. Their kids would realize they are crap people.

[Anonymous]

You know the Dutch have a really good personal space, relationship boundaries and human sexuality curriculum

https://yourteenmag.com/health/teen-sexuality/dutch-sex-education

It starts in Pre-K with things like personal space and how to be a friend and builds as the kids get older

fwiw, the Dutch have the lowest rate of teen PG, STD and abortion in the developed world

I recommend it for NJ.... and for the rest of America for that matter

No one wants a kid who is gay identifying or transgender feeling isolated and alone ( and suicidal ) NO ONE wants that

Perhaps the best way to prevent that is to teach Positive self image and mutual respect FIRST and not deep dive into over inserting adult agenda into very young KDG age

Instead : " be kind, be honest... be respectful "

let's start THERE ... Everyone, OK ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

Thank you, NJ Educator. But the folks upthread believe that respectful discourse and valuing individuals regardless of their gender or gender expression is “liberal indoctrination”. Treating others as you would want yourself to be treated is not a lesson they learned at their Sunday schools.

.
“Liberal indoctrination” **is** teaching kids to be respectful and value others. The golden rule.

That’s why the Rs and trans-haters are so against “indoctrination”. Their kids would realize they are crap people.

NP. You’re really not getting that the tide has turned against you. This isn’t 2019, when you could bump your gums about trans ideology and everyone was too disorganized and scared for their jobs to talk back to you. The opposition is organized now and state by state, your ideology is getting handled with targeted bills. People are also voting in politicians who will further clean up the mess that trans ideology is. Your movement is over.

So threatened by kindness and respect.

Do your kids know you’re a POS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

Thank you, NJ Educator. But the folks upthread believe that respectful discourse and valuing individuals regardless of their gender or gender expression is “liberal indoctrination”. Treating others as you would want yourself to be treated is not a lesson they learned at their Sunday schools.

.
“Liberal indoctrination” **is** teaching kids to be respectful and value others. The golden rule.

That’s why the Rs and trans-haters are so against “indoctrination”. Their kids would realize they are crap people.

NP. You’re really not getting that the tide has turned against you. This isn’t 2019, when you could bump your gums about trans ideology and everyone was too disorganized and scared for their jobs to talk back to you. The opposition is organized now and state by state, your ideology is getting handled with targeted bills. People are also voting in politicians who will further clean up the mess that trans ideology is. Your movement is over.

So threatened by kindness and respect.

Do your kids know you’re a POS?

DP. Who, exactly, is "threatened by kindness and respect"? This thread is about teaching very young children about gender topics - something they simply don't need to know about at that age. Teaching children to be kind and respect one another is not AT ALL what is at issue here. Nice strawman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

The problem is that it *is* a sample lesson that is being shared and will likely be used by *some* teachers. If this is what one district interprets the standards to be, that is a problem. We have seen in recent years that individual boards and principals don't always use best judgment in approving curriculum and materials for teachers to use with students.

As a former teacher, I can confidently say that the standards are one thing.... it is the way they are implemented and taught that matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

I wish all the people ranting about this, including my co-teacher, would actually take time to read your post. The sample lessons they're so upset about are those provided by one outside organization, and are not the standards the state has set. One district looked at the resources provided by that organization, but did not adopt that curriculum (perhaps they will, perhaps they won't).

And just to be fully transparent, you've listed the "core ideas," - the health performance expectations for K-2 do include "List medically accurate names for body parts, including the genitals" and "2.1.2.SSH.2: Discuss the range of ways people express their gender and how gender role stereotypes may limit behavior." The 3-5 and 6-8 standards do include more sex education, with the idea that by the time puberty and adolescence hit, kids should be aware of how their bodies function, rather than waiting until they're sexually active to teach them about safe practices.

So let's stop pretending that NJ is trying to confuse children and turn them "trans. Personally, I wasn't aware that it was like catching the cooties - at least the right wing is no longer claiming that gay marriage makes kids gay. The sex education ones are simply preparing kids to understand how their own bodies work (Not quite sure why "penis" is more objectionable than 'pee-pee') and the gender identity ones are about accepting diversity in general.

-another NJ educator

[Anonymous]

You know the Dutch have a really good personal space, relationship boundaries and human sexuality curriculum

https://yourteenmag.com/health/teen-sexuality/dutch-sex-education

It starts in Pre-K with things like personal space and how to be a friend and builds as the kids get older

fwiw, the Dutch have the lowest rate of teen PG, STD and abortion in the developed world

I recommend it for NJ.... and for the rest of America for that matter

No one wants a kid who is gay identifying or transgender feeling isolated and alone ( and suicidal ) NO ONE wants that

Perhaps the best way to prevent that is to teach Positive self image and mutual respect FIRST and not deep dive into over inserting adult agenda into very young KDG age

Instead : " be kind, be honest... be respectful "

let's start THERE ... Everyone, OK ?

SOOOOO... follow the NJ standards, in other words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a NJ educator and I can tell you that the exact 'Social and Sexual Health' standards for grades K-2 are:

* Every individual has unique skills and qualities, which can include the activities they enjoy such as how they may dress, their mannerisms, things they like to do.
* Families shape the way we think about our bodies, our health and our behaviors.
* People have relationships with others in the local community and beyond.
* Communication is the basis for strengthening relationships and resolving conflict between people.
* Conflicts between people occur, and there are effective ways to resolve them.

What was shared in the original post of this thread is a 'sample lesson' - that is a click to an outside source - that nobody is forced to use. Our individual boards of education approve curriculum and individual schools or principals would approve lessons. Because we are big believers in local rule, the values of the community at large are usually well-represented.

Standards for grades 3-5 are:
* All individuals should feel welcome and included regardless of their gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
* Family members impact the development of their children physically, socially, and emotionally.
* People in healthy relationships share thoughts and feelings, as well as mutual respect.

The underlying theme is respectful functioning in society. That is not the same as 'leftist brainwashing indoctrination' into any kind of lifestyle.

I wish all the people ranting about this, including my co-teacher, would actually take time to read your post. The sample lessons they're so upset about are those provided by one outside organization, and are not the standards the state has set. One district looked at the resources provided by that organization, but did not adopt that curriculum (perhaps they will, perhaps they won't).

And just to be fully transparent, you've listed the "core ideas," - the health performance expectations for K-2 do include "List medically accurate names for body parts, including the genitals" and "2.1.2.SSH.2: Discuss the range of ways people express their gender and how gender role stereotypes may limit behavior." The 3-5 and 6-8 standards do include more sex education, with the idea that by the time puberty and adolescence hit, kids should be aware of how their bodies function, rather than waiting until they're sexually active to teach them about safe practices.

So let's stop pretending that NJ is trying to confuse children and turn them "trans. Personally, I wasn't aware that it was like catching the cooties - at least the right wing is no longer claiming that gay marriage makes kids gay. The sex education ones are simply preparing kids to understand how their own bodies work (Not quite sure why "penis" is more objectionable than 'pee-pee') and the gender identity ones are about accepting diversity in general.

-another NJ educator

Why do you believe these are appropriate for grades K-2? Why should there be a focus on "gender" or "gender stereotypes" at this grade level?