How did Herndon/Westfield HS go from top to bottom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Westfield is not currently overcrowded. It has a design capacity of over 2800 students and currently has slightly over 2600 students. It could be overcrowded in the future, if all the housing under consideration near the new Silver Line stations is built.

Centreville and Chantilly are overcrowded now. Centreville's overcrowding could be alleviated when the school is renovated.

At present, there's no real plan to address overcrowding at Chantilly other the possibility of a new high school somewhere in western Fairfax. FCPS has not yet decided where that school will be built, or acquired a large enough site yet.

They cannot just snap their fingers and make a site materialize closer to Chantilly or Centreville. For a number of years, FCPS suggested the likely site of a new high school would be near Hutchison ES in Herndon. If that happens, to provide meaningful relief to Chantilly (or to Centreville, if it still overcrowded, or to Westfield, if it was overcrowded at the time), there would be significant boundary changes in western Fairfax, some of which would involve Herndon HS (and, in turn, likely free up space there to take students from western Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And people who are in the HHS pyramid care that GF wants to stay zoned for LHS because…?

Because GF residents are so arrogant about it. You act like you live your own county.

You are spending emotional energy imagining what you think is in the mind of people in a neighboring part of the county and twisting yourself into knots over it.

That’s some weird ish right there.

Hardly imagined, and you don't even hide it.

Ok stay mad then. Everyone needs a hobby

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Westfield is not currently overcrowded. It has a design capacity of over 2800 students and currently has slightly over 2600 students. It could be overcrowded in the future, if all the housing under consideration near the new Silver Line stations is built.

Centreville and Chantilly are overcrowded now. Centreville's overcrowding could be alleviated when the school is renovated.

At present, there's no real plan to address overcrowding at Chantilly other the possibility of a new high school somewhere in western Fairfax. FCPS has not yet decided where that school will be built, or acquired a large enough site yet.

They cannot just snap their fingers and make a site materialize closer to Chantilly or Centreville. For a number of years, FCPS suggested the likely site of a new high school would be near Hutchison ES in Herndon. If that happens, to provide meaningful relief to Chantilly (or to Centreville, if it still overcrowded, or to Westfield, if it was overcrowded at the time), there would be significant boundary changes in western Fairfax, some of which would involve Herndon HS (and, in turn, likely free up space there to take students from western Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley).

Leaving Langley under enrolled.

Anyway until they break ground on the thing no one knows.

And considering that they have a shrinking population in the younger grades, by the time they could procure, plan, and finish construction on a new high school it might not be needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Westfield is not currently overcrowded. It has a design capacity of over 2800 students and currently has slightly over 2600 students. It could be overcrowded in the future, if all the housing under consideration near the new Silver Line stations is built.

Centreville and Chantilly are overcrowded now. Centreville's overcrowding could be alleviated when the school is renovated.

At present, there's no real plan to address overcrowding at Chantilly other the possibility of a new high school somewhere in western Fairfax. FCPS has not yet decided where that school will be built, or acquired a large enough site yet.

They cannot just snap their fingers and make a site materialize closer to Chantilly or Centreville. For a number of years, FCPS suggested the likely site of a new high school would be near Hutchison ES in Herndon. If that happens, to provide meaningful relief to Chantilly (or to Centreville, if it still overcrowded, or to Westfield, if it was overcrowded at the time), there would be significant boundary changes in western Fairfax, some of which would involve Herndon HS (and, in turn, likely free up space there to take students from western Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley).

Leaving Langley under enrolled.

Anyway until they break ground on the thing no one knows.

And considering that they have a shrinking population in the younger grades, by the time they could procure, plan, and finish construction on a new high school it might not be needed.

Not necessarily. It depends on what happens in other parts of the county as well. Not every area is as frozen in time as the Langley district.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Westfield is not currently overcrowded. It has a design capacity of over 2800 students and currently has slightly over 2600 students. It could be overcrowded in the future, if all the housing under consideration near the new Silver Line stations is built.

Centreville and Chantilly are overcrowded now. Centreville's overcrowding could be alleviated when the school is renovated.

At present, there's no real plan to address overcrowding at Chantilly other the possibility of a new high school somewhere in western Fairfax. FCPS has not yet decided where that school will be built, or acquired a large enough site yet.

They cannot just snap their fingers and make a site materialize closer to Chantilly or Centreville. For a number of years, FCPS suggested the likely site of a new high school would be near Hutchison ES in Herndon. If that happens, to provide meaningful relief to Chantilly (or to Centreville, if it still overcrowded, or to Westfield, if it was overcrowded at the time), there would be significant boundary changes in western Fairfax, some of which would involve Herndon HS (and, in turn, likely free up space there to take students from western Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley).

Leaving Langley under enrolled.

Anyway until they break ground on the thing no one knows.

And considering that they have a shrinking population in the younger grades, by the time they could procure, plan, and finish construction on a new high school it might not be needed.

Not necessarily. It depends on what happens in other parts of the county as well. Not every area is as frozen in time as the Langley district.

Those sites in Herndon they were considering are no longer available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Westfield is not currently overcrowded. It has a design capacity of over 2800 students and currently has slightly over 2600 students. It could be overcrowded in the future, if all the housing under consideration near the new Silver Line stations is built.

Centreville and Chantilly are overcrowded now. Centreville's overcrowding could be alleviated when the school is renovated.

At present, there's no real plan to address overcrowding at Chantilly other the possibility of a new high school somewhere in western Fairfax. FCPS has not yet decided where that school will be built, or acquired a large enough site yet.

They cannot just snap their fingers and make a site materialize closer to Chantilly or Centreville. For a number of years, FCPS suggested the likely site of a new high school would be near Hutchison ES in Herndon. If that happens, to provide meaningful relief to Chantilly (or to Centreville, if it still overcrowded, or to Westfield, if it was overcrowded at the time), there would be significant boundary changes in western Fairfax, some of which would involve Herndon HS (and, in turn, likely free up space there to take students from western Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley).

Leaving Langley under enrolled.

Anyway until they break ground on the thing no one knows.

And considering that they have a shrinking population in the younger grades, by the time they could procure, plan, and finish construction on a new high school it might not be needed.

Not necessarily. It depends on what happens in other parts of the county as well. Not every area is as frozen in time as the Langley district.

Those sites in Herndon they were considering are no longer available.

If you're talking about the land sold to the Saudis, that's old news. They'll have to find another site.

[Anonymous]

Hutchinson is still available. Not in the Town of Herndon- but in the Herndon Pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hutchinson is still available. Not in the Town of Herndon- but in the Herndon Pyramid.

And that’s nowhere near to where the overcrowded areas are and a terrible
location and too small.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hutchinson is still available. Not in the Town of Herndon- but in the Herndon Pyramid.

And that’s nowhere near to where the overcrowded areas are and a terrible
location and too small.

Necessity may be the mother of invention here if they decide they need a new school.

Of course, one community in particular would rather expand other schools to 3000 kids than risk getting rezoned themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hutchinson is still available. Not in the Town of Herndon- but in the Herndon Pyramid.

And that’s nowhere near to where the overcrowded areas are and a terrible
location and too small.

Necessity may be the mother of invention here if they decide they need a new school.

Of course, one community in particular would rather expand other schools to 3000 kids than risk getting rezoned themselves.

Honestly Ms Sanders should have simply sent the 85 percent FARMS Hybia Valley ES to Mount Vernon. Would have fixed the issue itself without damaging the wealthy Waynewood area kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Westfield is not currently overcrowded. It has a design capacity of over 2800 students and currently has slightly over 2600 students. It could be overcrowded in the future, if all the housing under consideration near the new Silver Line stations is built.

Centreville and Chantilly are overcrowded now. Centreville's overcrowding could be alleviated when the school is renovated.

At present, there's no real plan to address overcrowding at Chantilly other the possibility of a new high school somewhere in western Fairfax. FCPS has not yet decided where that school will be built, or acquired a large enough site yet.

They cannot just snap their fingers and make a site materialize closer to Chantilly or Centreville. For a number of years, FCPS suggested the likely site of a new high school would be near Hutchison ES in Herndon. If that happens, to provide meaningful relief to Chantilly (or to Centreville, if it still overcrowded, or to Westfield, if it was overcrowded at the time), there would be significant boundary changes in western Fairfax, some of which would involve Herndon HS (and, in turn, likely free up space there to take students from western Great Falls who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley).

Leaving Langley under enrolled.

Anyway until they break ground on the thing no one knows.

And considering that they have a shrinking population in the younger grades, by the time they could procure, plan, and finish construction on a new high school it might not be needed.

Not necessarily. It depends on what happens in other parts of the county as well. Not every area is as frozen in time as the Langley district.

I am talking about the entire county you dimwit. Some of us watch the CIP work sessions instead of spending time worrying about whether parents in other pyramids think we’re good enough to be on the same PTA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hutchinson is still available. Not in the Town of Herndon- but in the Herndon Pyramid.

And that’s nowhere near to where the overcrowded areas are and a terrible
location and too small.

They have to build where they can. It’s a decent parcel and they should be able to buy the neighborhood around it so that they have enough land.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

It certainly didn't help Herndon's reputation when hundreds of Langley parents filled Forestville ES in June 2019 and told Janie Strauss their lives would be ruined if their kids had to attend Herndon.

"[O]ne audience member began to argue with the representative that the county’s “One Fairfax” policy might harm communities like Great Falls, if the mission was to “simply diversify,” and attempt to “fix failures in other school pyramids at our expense.”

One Fairfax was adopted jointly by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the FCPS Board in 2017, committing both boards to consider equity in decision-making and in the development and delivery of future policies, programs and services.

'You’re retiring,' shouted out one individual. 'How can we even believe you? You have nothing to lose.'

Some parents expressed concern that Langley students might be forced to move to other schools like Herndon High School. Strauss reiterated her statement that 'no one is being asked to move from Langley, busing is not a consideration. Breaking up the school or busing students doesn’t make any sense'.”

So, some posters on DCUM think that students currently going to Langley--and whose families want them to go to Langley--should be removed from a school that is NOT overcrowded and sent to a school that would be overcrowded if they were sent there.
Please tell me how that makes sense.

Wow. You are completely bout of touch with the dynamics. Herndon parents could give a flying f* about where Langley / McLean / GF kids go. They do resent swipes that suggest the snowflakes in those communities would be irreparably damaged by being sent to Herndon. It is classist and insulting. Herndon HS is a good school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

It certainly didn't help Herndon's reputation when hundreds of Langley parents filled Forestville ES in June 2019 and told Janie Strauss their lives would be ruined if their kids had to attend Herndon.

"[O]ne audience member began to argue with the representative that the county’s “One Fairfax” policy might harm communities like Great Falls, if the mission was to “simply diversify,” and attempt to “fix failures in other school pyramids at our expense.”

One Fairfax was adopted jointly by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the FCPS Board in 2017, committing both boards to consider equity in decision-making and in the development and delivery of future policies, programs and services.

'You’re retiring,' shouted out one individual. 'How can we even believe you? You have nothing to lose.'

Some parents expressed concern that Langley students might be forced to move to other schools like Herndon High School. Strauss reiterated her statement that 'no one is being asked to move from Langley, busing is not a consideration. Breaking up the school or busing students doesn’t make any sense'.”

So, some posters on DCUM think that students currently going to Langley--and whose families want them to go to Langley--should be removed from a school that is NOT overcrowded and sent to a school that would be overcrowded if they were sent there.
Please tell me how that makes sense.

Wow. You are completely bout of touch with the dynamics. Herndon parents could give a flying f* about where Langley / McLean / GF kids go. They do resent swipes that suggest the snowflakes in those communities would be irreparably damaged by being sent to Herndon. It is classist and insulting. Herndon HS is a good school.

Nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

It certainly didn't help Herndon's reputation when hundreds of Langley parents filled Forestville ES in June 2019 and told Janie Strauss their lives would be ruined if their kids had to attend Herndon.

"[O]ne audience member began to argue with the representative that the county’s “One Fairfax” policy might harm communities like Great Falls, if the mission was to “simply diversify,” and attempt to “fix failures in other school pyramids at our expense.”

One Fairfax was adopted jointly by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the FCPS Board in 2017, committing both boards to consider equity in decision-making and in the development and delivery of future policies, programs and services.

'You’re retiring,' shouted out one individual. 'How can we even believe you? You have nothing to lose.'

Some parents expressed concern that Langley students might be forced to move to other schools like Herndon High School. Strauss reiterated her statement that 'no one is being asked to move from Langley, busing is not a consideration. Breaking up the school or busing students doesn’t make any sense'.”

So, some posters on DCUM think that students currently going to Langley--and whose families want them to go to Langley--should be removed from a school that is NOT overcrowded and sent to a school that would be overcrowded if they were sent there.
Please tell me how that makes sense.

Wow. You are completely bout of touch with the dynamics. Herndon parents could give a flying f* about where Langley / McLean / GF kids go. They do resent swipes that suggest the snowflakes in those communities would be irreparably damaged by being sent to Herndon. It is classist and insulting. Herndon HS is a good school.

PP you responded to here. I was responding the the italicized post. You did not answer the question. I never said Herndon was not a good school. I just wanted to know why the poster wants people who want to stay in their current school to move--especially when Herndon is close to capacity. It makes no sense.