How did Herndon/Westfield HS go from top to bottom?

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Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

[Anonymous]

Herndon, Langley, and McLean are the three high schools in the Dranesville District, with the same school board member, Elaine Tholen. Tholen prioritizes the interests of Great Falls residents, which impacts the future of all three schools. The prior Dranesville School Board representative, Janie Strauss, also "took credit" for keeping Langley and Herndon out of the 2008 South Lakes boundary changes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

It certainly didn't help Herndon's reputation when hundreds of Langley parents filled Forestville ES in June 2019 and told Janie Strauss their lives would be ruined if their kids had to attend Herndon.

"[O]ne audience member began to argue with the representative that the county’s “One Fairfax” policy might harm communities like Great Falls, if the mission was to “simply diversify,” and attempt to “fix failures in other school pyramids at our expense.”

One Fairfax was adopted jointly by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the FCPS Board in 2017, committing both boards to consider equity in decision-making and in the development and delivery of future policies, programs and services.

'You’re retiring,' shouted out one individual. 'How can we even believe you? You have nothing to lose.'

Some parents expressed concern that Langley students might be forced to move to other schools like Herndon High School. Strauss reiterated her statement that 'no one is being asked to move from Langley, busing is not a consideration. Breaking up the school or busing students doesn’t make any sense'.”

[Anonymous]

And people who are in the HHS pyramid care that GF wants to stay zoned for LHS because…?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And people who are in the HHS pyramid care that GF wants to stay zoned for LHS because…?

Because GF residents are so arrogant about it. You act like you live your own county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

It certainly didn't help Herndon's reputation when hundreds of Langley parents filled Forestville ES in June 2019 and told Janie Strauss their lives would be ruined if their kids had to attend Herndon.

"[O]ne audience member began to argue with the representative that the county’s “One Fairfax” policy might harm communities like Great Falls, if the mission was to “simply diversify,” and attempt to “fix failures in other school pyramids at our expense.”

One Fairfax was adopted jointly by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the FCPS Board in 2017, committing both boards to consider equity in decision-making and in the development and delivery of future policies, programs and services.

'You’re retiring,' shouted out one individual. 'How can we even believe you? You have nothing to lose.'

Some parents expressed concern that Langley students might be forced to move to other schools like Herndon High School. Strauss reiterated her statement that 'no one is being asked to move from Langley, busing is not a consideration. Breaking up the school or busing students doesn’t make any sense'.”

So, some posters on DCUM think that students currently going to Langley--and whose families want them to go to Langley--should be removed from a school that is NOT overcrowded and sent to a school that would be overcrowded if they were sent there.
Please tell me how that makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we talking about Langley and McLean in this thread?

Langley and Herndon share a long boundary.

So Herndon declined because they share a boundary with Langley.

It certainly didn't help Herndon's reputation when hundreds of Langley parents filled Forestville ES in June 2019 and told Janie Strauss their lives would be ruined if their kids had to attend Herndon.

"[O]ne audience member began to argue with the representative that the county’s “One Fairfax” policy might harm communities like Great Falls, if the mission was to “simply diversify,” and attempt to “fix failures in other school pyramids at our expense.”

One Fairfax was adopted jointly by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and the FCPS Board in 2017, committing both boards to consider equity in decision-making and in the development and delivery of future policies, programs and services.

'You’re retiring,' shouted out one individual. 'How can we even believe you? You have nothing to lose.'

Some parents expressed concern that Langley students might be forced to move to other schools like Herndon High School. Strauss reiterated her statement that 'no one is being asked to move from Langley, busing is not a consideration. Breaking up the school or busing students doesn’t make any sense'.”

So, some posters on DCUM think that students currently going to Langley--and whose families want them to go to Langley--should be removed from a school that is NOT overcrowded and sent to a school that would be overcrowded if they were sent there.
Please tell me how that makes sense.

More like some posters on DCUM think that Langley, a school that is NOT overcrowded, should include some surrounding high-density apartment complexes into it's catchment area to provide relief to Herndon and McLean which ARE over capacity. Please tell me how that doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

More like some posters on DCUM think that Langley, a school that is NOT overcrowded, should include some surrounding high-density apartment complexes into it's catchment area to provide relief to Herndon and McLean which ARE over capacity. Please tell me how that doesn't make sense.

I agree about the relief to McLean--but where are the high-density apartment in Herndon that are in the surrounding area to Langley? Didn't they take some kids from McLean? That makes sense since they are close to one another, but I don't know the neighborhoods/feeder schools.
I don't see where you could get students from Herndon, though. It's a fairly compact boundary.

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Anonymous wrote:

More like some posters on DCUM think that Langley, a school that is NOT overcrowded, should include some surrounding high-density apartment complexes into it's catchment area to provide relief to Herndon and McLean which ARE over capacity. Please tell me how that doesn't make sense.

I agree about the relief to McLean--but where are the high-density apartment in Herndon that are in the surrounding area to Langley? Didn't they take some kids from McLean? That makes sense since they are close to one another, but I don't know the neighborhoods/feeder schools.
I don't see where you could get students from Herndon, though. It's a fairly compact boundary.

Langley picked up some neighborhoods from McLean, but they are all built-out single-family neighborhoods in Vienna with no further development planned. Langley, or at least Great Falls, didn't want any of the existing and planned high-density apartment complexes in Tysons/McLean, for fear they would overcrowd Langley and lead Langley kids to get moved to Herndon. So McLean has to put up to continued overcrowding to humor the Great Falls parents and residents who prefer Langley to remain under-capacity. That's how the three schools remain joined at the hip, at least for now.

If FCPS ever decides to move high-density housing to Langley, the obvious choice would be to move part of Tysons or Reston to Langley, not Herndon, as Herndon's current boundaries are relatively compact. Those areas would still be closer to Langley than current Langley neighborhoods in western Great Falls. And, of course, depending on whether and where a new western high school gets built, they might decide to move part of western Great Falls to Herndon if part of Herndon were moving to a new school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And people who are in the HHS pyramid care that GF wants to stay zoned for LHS because…?

Because GF residents are so arrogant about it. You act like you live your own county.

You are spending emotional energy imagining what you think is in the mind of people in a neighboring part of the county and twisting yourself into knots over it.

That’s some weird ish right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And people who are in the HHS pyramid care that GF wants to stay zoned for LHS because…?

Because GF residents are so arrogant about it. You act like you live your own county.

You are spending emotional energy imagining what you think is in the mind of people in a neighboring part of the county and twisting yourself into knots over it.

That’s some weird ish right there.

Hardly imagined, and you don't even hide it.

[Anonymous]

The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The overcrowded schools-Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield--are nowhere near Herndon or Langley so this discussion makes no sense. They need to find a site to build a highschool in the Centreville/Chantilly area.

Not really, if they build out a Hutchinson site and take out Floris/McNair/Coates from Westfield’s northern boundary that in turn would open up seats at Westfield for Centreville/Chantilly relief.