Crime in LA

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Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.


No, it doesn't.

"Nearly 40% of law enforcement agencies nationwide, including the New York City Police Department and Los Angeles Police Department, failed to report their 2021 crime data to the FBI, according to data provided to Axios Local from a partnership with The Marshall Project."

https://www.axios.com/2022/06/14/fbi-crime-data-2021-police-reporting-failures
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lol at all these self-styled experts on LA who don’t even live there.


Because you have to live somewhere to know what's going on
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


If stealing a car, carjacking, assault, etc aren't viewed as worthy of arrest, then they aren't crimes and perpetrators aren't criminals.
Anonymous
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Organized gangs.

My mother worked at a department store in the 1980s during the holidays to make extra money. Same thing happened then too - two vans would idle in front of the doors while 6-8 people would ransack the Levi's jeans displays. The only difference these days is that its all caught on social media + the thieves have an easier time reselling the stolen goods on Amazon, eBay, and Facebook Market Place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.

Crime isn't a blue or red problem. Both of our two political parties are awful have done very little to help lift communities out of poverty. Poverty is the primary factor that leads to crime and nothing else is even close. Our politicians would rather give tax breaks to large corporations and free money to those fortunate enough to have gone to college. They care nothing about children growing up in poverty because those children aren't eligible to vote and therefore don't have a vote to buy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.

Crime isn't a blue or red problem. Both of our two political parties are awful have done very little to help lift communities out of poverty. Poverty is the primary factor that leads to crime and nothing else is even close. Our politicians would rather give tax breaks to large corporations and free money to those fortunate enough to have gone to college. They care nothing about children growing up in poverty because those children aren't eligible to vote and therefore don't have a vote to buy.

Oh goodie another brainwashed Republican determined to BoTh SiDeS the Democratic Party that keeps pushing various ideas to help poverty and the GOP who keeps blocking every one of those ideas. Then gives billionaires tax breaks when they get power.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.

Crime isn't a blue or red problem. Both of our two political parties are awful have done very little to help lift communities out of poverty. Poverty is the primary factor that leads to crime and nothing else is even close. Our politicians would rather give tax breaks to large corporations and free money to those fortunate enough to have gone to college. They care nothing about children growing up in poverty because those children aren't eligible to vote and therefore don't have a vote to buy.

Oh goodie another brainwashed Republican determined to BoTh SiDeS the Democratic Party that keeps pushing various ideas to help poverty and the GOP who keeps blocking every one of those ideas. Then gives billionaires tax breaks when they get power.


We need to do much more to help those who live in poverty, but you insult those families who teach their kids good values, regardless of their circumstances. I've worked in schols with large numbers (majority Title I) of students who have very little, but they and their parents are not engaging in criminal behavior.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.

Crime isn't a blue or red problem. Both of our two political parties are awful have done very little to help lift communities out of poverty. Poverty is the primary factor that leads to crime and nothing else is even close. Our politicians would rather give tax breaks to large corporations and free money to those fortunate enough to have gone to college. They care nothing about children growing up in poverty because those children aren't eligible to vote and therefore don't have a vote to buy.

Oh goodie another brainwashed Republican determined to BoTh SiDeS the Democratic Party that keeps pushing various ideas to help poverty and the GOP who keeps blocking every one of those ideas. Then gives billionaires tax breaks when they get power.


The Democratic Party of late is busy pushing "restorative justice" more than anything related to poverty.
As a result, we have cities with out-of-control crime and criminals who don't even try to hide their identities because they know there will be few consequences.
Anonymous
Cost of rampant theft get passed along to law abiding citizens as the stores have to raise prices.

Unchecked theft contributes to the rampant inflation.

Read Target's latest CEO comments from update. Target as a company cannot continue as they are with the rampant unchecked theft.
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Anonymous wrote:


Organized gangs.

My mother worked at a department store in the 1980s during the holidays to make extra money. Same thing happened then too - two vans would idle in front of the doors while 6-8 people would ransack the Levi's jeans displays. The only difference these days is that its all caught on social media + the thieves have an easier time reselling the stolen goods on Amazon, eBay, and Facebook Market Place.


I also worked in a department store (Robinson's) in SoCal during the 80's, and, yes, huge thefts by organized gangs happened then too. Once they cleaned out all the Ralph Lauren polo shirts in about 5 minutes. I personally witnessed rolling racks of new merchandise rolled out the door to the parking lot where the clothes were thrown into a waiting van. My department manager tried to stop them until she had a knife pulled on her.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.

Crime isn't a blue or red problem. Both of our two political parties are awful have done very little to help lift communities out of poverty. Poverty is the primary factor that leads to crime and nothing else is even close. Our politicians would rather give tax breaks to large corporations and free money to those fortunate enough to have gone to college. They care nothing about children growing up in poverty because those children aren't eligible to vote and therefore don't have a vote to buy.

Oh goodie another brainwashed Republican determined to BoTh SiDeS the Democratic Party that keeps pushing various ideas to help poverty and the GOP who keeps blocking every one of those ideas. Then gives billionaires tax breaks when they get power.


We need to do much more to help those who live in poverty, but you insult those families who teach their kids good values, regardless of their circumstances. I've worked in schols with large numbers (majority Title I) of students who have very little, but they and their parents are not engaging in criminal behavior.


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Anonymous wrote:Los Angeles isn’t even in the top 75 most dangerous metro areas in the US. Violent crime rate is exceedingly low in LA.

https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us#google_vignette


A friend was almost carjacked leaving staples center after watching the LA Lakers. They smashed the driver side window as she was sitting in the driver seat, and reached in and stole her purse and stole her purse. When they tried to drag her out of the car she accelerated and got away. She called 911 and was told she would have to go back to the parking lot and wait for the police to take the report. Obviously, she wasn’t going to go back to the place where she we was just attacked. So there probably wasn’t a police report filed.


This is literally no different than what you’ll hear from unhelpful 911 operators in Dallas, Cleveland, Peoria, DC, or Boston. It’s a problem with policing in America; they literally are inured to plight.

Not sure what this n=1 anecdote has to do with anything. The stats still bare out that Los Angeles is dramatically less dangerous than most other metro areas.


Low arrest rates = low crime rates


Nope, crime rates are not measured based on arrests. Try again.


Once again, when you legalize crime, then crime rates are going to be lower.
They nearly brag about the crimes they will not longer arrest people for or prosecute.



In 2018, under George Gascón, San Francisco had the highest property crime rate in the nation. At the end of Gascon’s reign in SF, property crime had increased by 37%. Look at SF now.

On Dec 7, 2020, when Gascón became the DA of Los Angeles, there wasn’t one mention of “victims rights,” “public safety,” or how he was going to address burglaries, robberies, or theft crimes in LA. For the architect of Prop 47, it just wasn’t a concern-burglaries, thefts & many other felonies and all misdemeanors were listed under Gascon’s directives as $0 bail. Gascon even got rid of white collar crime enhancements that could be used for organized retail theft. Gascón was more concerned about releasing criminals, not charging crimes, abandoning victims & playing politcal games.

3 years later we have a public safety crisis in LA with these smash & grab burglaries and flash mob robberies taking center stage. Just so we are being honest about the “science & data,” in Nov 2021, under Gascón, we had the exact same problem here in LA where 14 suspects were arrested for 11 mob style smash & grab burglaries and ALL were released on $0 bail. The public was outraged. Gov Newsom created a task force & requested $300 million in state funds to combat the public safety crisis.

Fast forward to the present & we are still dealing with the same exact problem. However, the real issue that no “leader” wanted to address in 2021 or at this new task force announced yesterday -George Gascón. It’s gotten so bad, Gascon wasn’t even invited to yesterday’s presser.


What does any of this have to do with the fact that Los Angeles has significantly lower violent crime rates than pretty much all major cities in Republican controlled states? Gun crimes are a small fraction of those in Red states.

You can’t juke the stats on dead bodies and gun shot wounds.

Crime isn't a blue or red problem. Both of our two political parties are awful have done very little to help lift communities out of poverty. Poverty is the primary factor that leads to crime and nothing else is even close. Our politicians would rather give tax breaks to large corporations and free money to those fortunate enough to have gone to college. They care nothing about children growing up in poverty because those children aren't eligible to vote and therefore don't have a vote to buy.

Oh goodie another brainwashed Republican determined to BoTh SiDeS the Democratic Party that keeps pushing various ideas to help poverty and the GOP who keeps blocking every one of those ideas. Then gives billionaires tax breaks when they get power.
Our two parties are a one headed monster in this regard. They have both done the exact same amount to give kids growing up in a poverty a glimpse of something that resembles equal opportunity. Zero, zilch, nada, nothing. Kids can't vote so why waste their time and money helping them when there is no vote to buy? Sure, they talk about big plans when campaigning but there is never any follow through because that wheel isn't squeaky enough. As a lifelong Democrat, my heart tells me we're more likely to see progress on this front under Democratic leadership but until I see such progress, I say shame on all of them and shame on all of us for putting up with it. We have the resources to do much better for our disadvantaged youth and if we aren't doing absolutely all we can to give each and every child the same opportunities, then what the heck are we doing? All thats right, were giving corporations tax breaks and loopholes and we're proposing the cancellation of debt for those that went to college. Disgusting
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