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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the people doubling down on "KEEP THE SCHOOLS OPEN IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION" crowd. There were so many kids who didn't get an actual education today just by being in the building bc they didn't have teachers. There were no bus drivers. Schools weren't cleaned because custodial staff have been out. Just because a school building is open doesn't mean kids are being educated. You all are the worst of the worst.


My kid reported to me that only 9 kids in her class showed up today. (She was estimating, so who knows, but the point is - a LOT of kids absent.)


Mine said seven were absent in a class of fifteen. I'm going to keep sending her because I think it's better for her to go, but I'm also getting ready to have her home next week.

me, too. On the flip side, if there are less students in class, there is more space per person, less chance of spread. My kids did ok academically with virtual, but it was certainly harder, in every way. But, we can live with a two week virtual. I'm reading that they think omicron will taper down end of January.


It won't taper down if nothing else closes. And do you really think MCPS is going to reopen quickly? Please, I think we've all seen this movie before.


DP. COVID comes and goes without much regard for closing. Omicron will burn out regardless of what we do, even if we might not like the consequences of letting that happen.
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand why they are counting 14 days? Why not cases over the past 10 days?


Because 14 days is the formula from the state department of education as well as the CDC school guidance. All along they have said that 5% or more positivity rate within 14 days the kids are safer at home because community spread is too high.


But…. They are getting it at home and not at school!!! School has been closed!!! Hello!!!


There is no magic forcefield at schools that keeps covid from spreading through the air, and school involves large numbers of people in small spaces. If 5% of teachers and students at a school are infected, they will spread it to the people around them at high rates. You don't need to wait to see it to know it's going to happen, you just need a brain.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


Count me firmly in the keep schools open camp. I personally know more teens who have attempted suicide during the past two years than kids who got Covid (at all, let alone in school). And very afraid my kid might be next on the list if schools shut down again. This is not the way teens are supposed to grow up.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the people doubling down on "KEEP THE SCHOOLS OPEN IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION" crowd. There were so many kids who didn't get an actual education today just by being in the building bc they didn't have teachers. There were no bus drivers. Schools weren't cleaned because custodial staff have been out. Just because a school building is open doesn't mean kids are being educated. You all are the worst of the worst.


Yup. This is what I've been saying all week.

The omicron writing was already on the wall.

People kept acting like there was a real choice between "send kids to school, and maybe they get COVID, but we have to live with it now" and "go virtual*."

And I kept saying the ACTUAL choice was between "go virtual now" or "send kids into a sh!tshow, watch as numbers climb and a bunch of them get COVID, only to be forced into virtual in a week or two anyway."

But out come the shocked and horrified parents who I guess had been in some sort of denial for the past few weeks.


*And many would not consider the possibility that was actually being offered-- virtual for 2-6 weeks max. They had to build up this strawman of an evil and untrustworthy MCPS that wants to keep kids out of school for the rest of the year and would use a few weeks of virtual as cover for their nefarious plan, because... uh... teachers just love virtual, it's not a gigantic pain in their butts and... administrators eating Pringles and bonbons all day and.... reasons... yeah.


Sorry, but trust has to be earned. Our kids sat at home last year for months and months for no reason.


Well, by all means, keep sending your kid to school so they can get sick and you can trust MCPS more, I guess.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


Count me firmly in the keep schools open camp. I personally know more teens who have attempted suicide during the past two years than kids who got Covid (at all, let alone in school). And very afraid my kid might be next on the list if schools shut down again. This is not the way teens are supposed to grow up.


No one is arguing that schools should generally be open. But when you are at the point where there’s no one to drive the bus, no teacher to teach the class, no cafeteria worker to distribute the lunch, and dozens upon dozens of students either home sick or home scared, it’s hard to see the goal or point of keeping your head buried when circumstances are temporarily very unstable if schools do remain open.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


Bars are open in Montgomery County where people gather without masks.

Restaurants are open where people sit for over an hour not wearing masks.

Schools are essential. Bars and restaurants are not. Schools require masks, have special air filters, can send sick students and staff home, and can test close contacts? Bars and restaurants are not doing these things.

Schools should stay open till every bar and restaurant in Montgomery County closes. MCPS is a farse. Montgomery County students deserve better.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


Bars are open in Montgomery County where people gather without masks.

Restaurants are open where people sit for over an hour not wearing masks.

Schools are essential. Bars and restaurants are not. Schools require masks, have special air filters, can send sick students and staff home, and can test close contacts? Bars and restaurants are not doing these things.

Schools should stay open till every bar and restaurant in Montgomery County closes. MCPS is a farse. Montgomery County students deserve better.


This analogy really doesn’t work. And isn’t logically consistent. Is your position that they should close all or none? And you do realize that MCPS has no authority to close down private establishments?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


Bars are open in Montgomery County where people gather without masks.

Restaurants are open where people sit for over an hour not wearing masks.

Schools are essential. Bars and restaurants are not. Schools require masks, have special air filters, can send sick students and staff home, and can test close contacts? Bars and restaurants are not doing these things.

Schools should stay open till every bar and restaurant in Montgomery County closes. MCPS is a farse. Montgomery County students deserve better.


This analogy really doesn’t work. And isn’t logically consistent. Is your position that they should close all or none? And you do realize that MCPS has no authority to close down private establishments?


Oh but Mocho thought they did -until they were slapped down.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


I'm part of the minority who studies the data and who knew we needed to pivot to virtual for January, instead of having this weird daily uncertainty. But I feel the majority of parents are NOT rabid, open-at-all-costs people like the aggressive, pitchfork-wielding trolls on this board. Most parents are reasonable and prefer to close schools rather than burden hospitals too much and prefer students stay home, doing their best to learn, rather than get babysat in schools rife with Omicron.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe the people doubling down on "KEEP THE SCHOOLS OPEN IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION" crowd. There were so many kids who didn't get an actual education today just by being in the building bc they didn't have teachers. There were no bus drivers. Schools weren't cleaned because custodial staff have been out. Just because a school building is open doesn't mean kids are being educated. You all are the worst of the worst.


Yup. This is what I've been saying all week.

The omicron writing was already on the wall.

People kept acting like there was a real choice between "send kids to school, and maybe they get COVID, but we have to live with it now" and "go virtual*."

And I kept saying the ACTUAL choice was between "go virtual now" or "send kids into a sh!tshow, watch as numbers climb and a bunch of them get COVID, only to be forced into virtual in a week or two anyway."

But out come the shocked and horrified parents who I guess had been in some sort of denial for the past few weeks.


*And many would not consider the possibility that was actually being offered-- virtual for 2-6 weeks max. They had to build up this strawman of an evil and untrustworthy MCPS that wants to keep kids out of school for the rest of the year and would use a few weeks of virtual as cover for their nefarious plan, because... uh... teachers just love virtual, it's not a gigantic pain in their butts and... administrators eating Pringles and bonbons all day and.... reasons... yeah.


Sorry, but trust has to be earned. Our kids sat at home last year for months and months for no reason.


+1 this from the same school system that denied students with disabilities accommodations and services by saying that “this is just temporary” and “we know your child is no getting everything on the IEP but all students with an IEP will be considered for compensatory services” then nada.

WE DO NOT TRUST MCPS OR DR. MCKNIGHT BECAUSE MCPS IS DECEITFUL AND UNTRUSTWORTHY.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


I'm part of the minority who studies the data and who knew we needed to pivot to virtual for January, instead of having this weird daily uncertainty. But I feel the majority of parents are NOT rabid, open-at-all-costs people like the aggressive, pitchfork-wielding trolls on this board. Most parents are reasonable and prefer to close schools rather than burden hospitals too much and prefer students stay home, doing their best to learn, rather than get babysat in schools rife with Omicron.



Most parents want schools to be the last service in the community to close. Why are bars in this county open but schools are closing? Why are malls open but schools are closing? Why are restaurants open but schools are closing?

Why doesn’t MCPS allow test to stay so healthy kids can go to school?

Why doesn’t MCPS require vaccinations for all students and staff?

There’s a lot that should be done before closing schools. Montgomery County is an embarrassment. The Democrats that have been running the show through out this pandemic will not be getting my vote in the next election and I am a registered Democrat. At this point I have been pushed to the point that there needs to be school vouchers because there needs to be an alternative to MCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


I'm part of the minority who studies the data and who knew we needed to pivot to virtual for January, instead of having this weird daily uncertainty. But I feel the majority of parents are NOT rabid, open-at-all-costs people like the aggressive, pitchfork-wielding trolls on this board. Most parents are reasonable and prefer to close schools rather than burden hospitals too much and prefer students stay home, doing their best to learn, rather than get babysat in schools rife with Omicron.



If hospitals ask schools to close let me know. Every doctor and pediatrician I see recommends vaccination and keeping schools open.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why does it always seem like Montgomery County Schools are caught flat footed? Do they not meet and talk through scenario's? What if there is big surge after the holidays? What if we don't have enough bus driver? What do we do if a whole bunch schools turn red at the same time? How will we manage lunches during a surge and cold-weather?

The list goes on and on and on.

These are good questions. I think we all know the answer: incompetence


Parents are demanding schools stay in person. What do you really want them to do?


A few loud, annoying parents are demanding this. They see no nuance. Kids could start being hospitalized and they’d still want schools open. They don’t speak for the majority.


You're wrong - those who want schools to stay open are the majority, here and elsewhere. That's because education is an essential service. But we live in a county full of neurotics led by incompetent bureaucrats who opened "escape rooms" months before the reopened schools.


I'm part of the minority who studies the data and who knew we needed to pivot to virtual for January, instead of having this weird daily uncertainty. But I feel the majority of parents are NOT rabid, open-at-all-costs people like the aggressive, pitchfork-wielding trolls on this board. Most parents are reasonable and prefer to close schools rather than burden hospitals too much and prefer students stay home, doing their best to learn, rather than get babysat in schools rife with Omicron.



Most parents want schools to be the last service in the community to close. Why are bars in this county open but schools are closing? Why are malls open but schools are closing? Why are restaurants open but schools are closing?

Why doesn’t MCPS allow test to stay so healthy kids can go to school?

Why doesn’t MCPS require vaccinations for all students and staff?

There’s a lot that should be done before closing schools. Montgomery County is an embarrassment. The Democrats that have been running the show through out this pandemic will not be getting my vote in the next election and I am a registered Democrat. At this point I have been pushed to the point that there needs to be school vouchers because there needs to be an alternative to MCPS.


Yes. This. 100 percent. I am a 1 issue voter for the foreseeable future.
Anonymous
All I know is I had 6/17 kids in school today and when I did attendance, 3 had no bus, 5 were qua for covid and 3 were sick with fevers, headaches and coughs. The admin told them to get tested. Since I had so few kids, I got 10 kids from other classes without teachers. What a day! The office ladies were burnt out from all the calling from parents today. We were missing 8 staff members and struggling to cover all classes and combine them where we could.

This cannot go on like this.

It is no better anywhere else. My cousin and father-in-law in Texas and Pennsylvania all tell me similar stories. My teacher friends in Texas are teaching virtually as the rates of covid are too high.
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