School Board Meeting 9/23

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

But we censor To Kill a Mockingbird?

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

Books are not trivial when we are discussing education.

What a strange thing to say.

Since the book is not a big deal it should be no problem for the school board to remove it. They shouldn't let something so insignificant distract the populace.

Did I say books are trivial? No, but I think this particular book is trivial in the larger scheme of things. I certainly wouldn’t include it in my curriculum but I wouldn’t censor it from a HS library either. Censorship is a slippery slope and if this book is, for whatever reason, embraced by the LGBTQ community, then asking to remove it is going to stir a hornet’s nest that distracts people from more important issues.

[Anonymous]

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

Not to mention our local Commonwealth Attorney who suggested a much lower sentence for pedophilia of a local young girl over a five year period. Went to sentence just this week. I think I just read that the judge took action and gave a much longer sentence than CA agreed to. I suspect it will go to appeal.

But, according to Karl Frisch. no big deal, I guess. Attacking a book with pedophilia is attacking the LGBTQ community, according to Frisch.

[Anonymous]

But To Kill a Mockingbird is Ok to censor. The point is that the board has censored some cherished classics for way less persuasive reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

Books are not trivial when we are discussing education.

What a strange thing to say.

Since the book is not a big deal it should be no problem for the school board to remove it. They shouldn't let something so insignificant distract the populace.

Did I say books are trivial? No, but I think this particular book is trivial in the larger scheme of things. I certainly wouldn’t include it in my curriculum but I wouldn’t censor it from a HS library either. Censorship is a slippery slope and if this book is, for whatever reason, embraced by the LGBTQ community, then asking to remove it is going to stir a hornet’s nest that distracts people from more important issues.

There are many ways to raise awareness and sympathy for their choice. Exposing children to this type of crap to avoid infuriating a group is ludicrous. Shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

But we censor To Kill a Mockingbird?

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

Facing the *idea* or *portrayal* of pedophilia is not bad, especially if it makes people aware of the issue and more cautious about their interactions with unknown adults. Bringing any terrifying or horrible problem to light is the only way to raise awareness. What the U.S. gymnastics team is mad about is not simply that they were molested, but also that many gymnasts continued year after year to be victims because no one (including the FBI) was willing to expose this crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But To Kill a Mockingbird is Ok to censor. The point is that the board has censored some cherished classics for way less persuasive reasons.

Wait, what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

Books are not trivial when we are discussing education.

What a strange thing to say.

Since the book is not a big deal it should be no problem for the school board to remove it. They shouldn't let something so insignificant distract the populace.

Did I say books are trivial? No, but I think this particular book is trivial in the larger scheme of things. I certainly wouldn’t include it in my curriculum but I wouldn’t censor it from a HS library either. Censorship is a slippery slope and if this book is, for whatever reason, embraced by the LGBTQ community, then asking to remove it is going to stir a hornet’s nest that distracts people from more important issues.

There are many ways to raise awareness and sympathy for their choice. Exposing children to this type of crap to avoid infuriating a group is ludicrous. Shameful.

Okay, then, make this your crusade - removing one book from the library. You and your cohorts are sure to increase the sales of “Lawn Boy” all over Fairfax County. Nothing makes a book or film more tempting to a teen than the fact it is “taboo.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But To Kill a Mockingbird is Ok to censor. The point is that the board has censored some cherished classics for way less persuasive reasons.

Wait, what?

Yes, It is now off the shelves in many school systems because of the use of the "n" word. I am not sure if it is banned in FCPS or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But To Kill a Mockingbird is Ok to censor. The point is that the board has censored some cherished classics for way less persuasive reasons.

Wait, what?

Yes, It is now off the shelves in many school systems because of the use of the "n" word. I am not sure if it is banned in FCPS or not.

Well, that is indeed censorship. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But To Kill a Mockingbird is Ok to censor. The point is that the board has censored some cherished classics for way less persuasive reasons.

Wait, what?

Yes, It is now off the shelves in many school systems because of the use of the "n" word. I am not sure if it is banned in FCPS or not.

So you're just talking out of your hat...

[Anonymous]

LGBTQ should be offended and outraged to be lumped in with pedo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But To Kill a Mockingbird is Ok to censor. The point is that the board has censored some cherished classics for way less persuasive reasons.

Wait, what?

Yes, It is now off the shelves in many school systems because of the use of the "n" word. I am not sure if it is banned in FCPS or not.

So you're just talking out of your hat...

It’s banned.

[Anonymous]

But good news. Hitler Youth with all its glossy pictures of aryan children was on the shelf of Wolftrap Elementary on 3 short years ago. We left the school after that.

[Anonymous]

This is all part of the reason FCPS needs to be broken up into more manageable chunks. It is absolutely too big to manage and crazy stuff happens