School Board Meeting 9/23

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ironic that SB censored the woman's testimony on the video--yet, young children are free to check the books out and read them.

No, “young children” are not free to check them out. They are in a few high school libraries. No young children involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic that SB censored the woman's testimony on the video--yet, young children are free to check the books out and read them.

No, “young children” are not free to check them out. They are in a few high school libraries. No young children involved.

Everything is relative. These are in secondary school libraries. 12 year olds use those libraries.

But, they are not appropriate for high school kids either. Until you are 18, you are a "child."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

But we censor To Kill a Mockingbird?

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

WTF?! You’re dreaming up scenarios about 6 year olds being anally penetrated?!?!? What is wrong with you? The book in question has a passage, quoted out of context, where a young adult character recalls sexual experimentation with a peer when he was in 4th grade. It is a recollection. Your distortion of this is absurd.

How is your life so small that you have so much time to burn on. A book you haven’t even read?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

But we censor To Kill a Mockingbird?

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

WTF?! You’re dreaming up scenarios about 6 year olds being anally penetrated?!?!? What is wrong with you? The book in question has a passage, quoted out of context, where a young adult character recalls sexual experimentation with a peer when he was in 4th grade. It is a recollection. Your distortion of this is absurd.

How is your life so small that you have so much time to burn on. A book you haven’t even read?!?

It also has a pedo passage. Read the book or shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic that SB censored the woman's testimony on the video--yet, young children are free to check the books out and read them.

No, “young children” are not free to check them out. They are in a few high school libraries. No young children involved.

Everything is relative. These are in secondary school libraries. 12 year olds use those libraries.

But, they are not appropriate for high school kids either. Until you are 18, you are a "child."

No. You are a minor, but not a child. No one calls a 17 year old a “child”. I’m not sure how a secondary school organized a library, but typically a children’s section is separate from a Young Adult section. Just like in your public library, a kid of any age COULD access content above recommended age levels.

[Anonymous]

I think we forget that some kids in our schools have been subject to sexual trauma.

To Kill a Mockingbird triggered my sexual trauma in school. It was required reading and I had to write an essay on it. So there was no option and my parents didn’t know the book or of my sexual trauma so I felt I had no where to turn.

Sure, exposing kids to all the bad things that happen in the world can seem like you are doing them some good when they have this far lived rather carefree, but some kids have been exposed to this in real life not just on paper and don’t yet have the ability to even process it.

Having it on a bookshelf in a school library, a space that should feel safe, and coming across it accidentally or by required reading should not happen there. Not where they should feel safe and where they spend the majority of their youth.

[Anonymous]

Jesus Christ people: let's clarify one more time: there is no pedophilia in the Lawn Boy book. The part shared at the SB meeting was between 2 FOURTH GRADERS. WHEN THEY WERE IN THE FOURTH GRADE. IN THE PAST. And now the 2 are grown, one is the narrator, and one is the real estate agent.

THEY WERE BOTH KIDS IN THE SCENE IN QUESTION. Read the damn book before you spout off about it.

[Anonymous]

No. You are a minor, but not a child. No one calls a 17 year old a “child”. I’m not sure how a secondary school organized a library, but typically a children’s section is separate from a Young Adult section. Just like in your public library, a kid of any age COULD access content above recommended age levels.

Secondary library is one library for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we forget that some kids in our schools have been subject to sexual trauma.

To Kill a Mockingbird triggered my sexual trauma in school. It was required reading and I had to write an essay on it. So there was no option and my parents didn’t know the book or of my sexual trauma so I felt I had no where to turn.

Sure, exposing kids to all the bad things that happen in the world can seem like you are doing them some good when they have this far lived rather carefree, but some kids have been exposed to this in real life not just on paper and don’t yet have the ability to even process it.

Having it on a bookshelf in a school library, a space that should feel safe, and coming across it accidentally or by required reading should not happen there. Not where they should feel safe and where they spend the majority of their youth.

Interesting. Especially since the rape scene was not described, as I recall. You were asked to write an essay on rape? Certainly, the book revolved around the defense of a rape, but I don't recall any graphic details. I've read it more than once but it's been many years, so perhaps I don't recall. But, I sure don't remember a rape scene.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you all are acting like the school board here, focusing on the wrong damn things. Your kids are going to face serious challenges in the future - climate change, civil unrest, possible economic devastation, an ongoing pandemic. Let the books and the school names and the other trivial stuff go. These kids wil need to be smarter and stronger and more capable than previous generations, and right now, administrators who care more about covering their asses or advancing their careers than actually educating children are instituting policies that ensure they will be lazier, dumber, and weaker.

It’s a book. Let it go. If the harshest reality your kid ever has to face is the mere *idea* or *portrayal* of gay sex or pedophilia, then he or she will have a pretty ideal life. I don’t need to be a fortune teller to predict that more harsh realities are in their futures. Don’t get derailed from what needs to be done by this sideshow.

But we censor To Kill a Mockingbird?

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

WTF?! You’re dreaming up scenarios about 6 year olds being anally penetrated?!?!? What is wrong with you? The book in question has a passage, quoted out of context, where a young adult character recalls sexual experimentation with a peer when he was in 4th grade. It is a recollection. Your distortion of this is absurd.

How is your life so small that you have so much time to burn on. A book you haven’t even read?!?

It also has a pedo passage. Read the book or shut up.

No, it does not.

You are either a liar or you’re dumb AF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You basically said facing pedophelia isn’t that bad. I don’t think you have the appropriate or even a decent perspective. You need counseling if pedo isn’t that bad and you think kids will face a lot worse in their lives. A 6 or 7 year old anally penetrated by an adult is likely to disagree. The US Gymnastics team must be a bunch of complainers to you.

Not to mention our local Commonwealth Attorney who suggested a much lower sentence for pedophilia of a local young girl over a five year period. Went to sentence just this week. I think I just read that the judge took action and gave a much longer sentence than CA agreed to. I suspect it will go to appeal.

But, according to Karl Frisch. no big deal, I guess. Attacking a book with pedophilia is attacking the LGBTQ community, according to Frisch.

It does NOT contain pedophilia FFS. This has been explain multiple times.

The more you say that, the more clear it is that you are an ignorant, illiterate POS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK prudes...let's hear:

What is an acceptable age for kids to start masturbating?

What is an acceptable age for kids to start experimenting with sex with peers?

That is not the issue. The issue is the graphic nature of those words and that book. You do know there is a graphic novel she was addressing, as well?

It's exactly the issue.

PP said 9-10 is too young.

How old is not "too young"?

Still waiting on the answer to this.

What age is not “too young”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But good news. Hitler Youth with all its glossy pictures of aryan children was on the shelf of Wolftrap Elementary on 3 short years ago. We left the school after that.

What? What book was this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But good news. Hitler Youth with all its glossy pictures of aryan children was on the shelf of Wolftrap Elementary on 3 short years ago. We left the school after that.

Huh?! What book are you talking about, PP?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK prudes...let's hear:

What is an acceptable age for kids to start masturbating?

What is an acceptable age for kids to start experimenting with sex with peers?

That is not the issue. The issue is the graphic nature of those words and that book. You do know there is a graphic novel she was addressing, as well?

It's exactly the issue.

PP said 9-10 is too young.

How old is not "too young"?

Still waiting on the answer to this.

What age is not “too young”?

If two fourth graders exploring their bodies together is “too young”, what is old enough?

13?
15?
17?
Any age?