FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

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Anonymous wrote:55% are low income. Typically that means Title 1 services which give a lower teacher-student ratio. That is exactly what Lewis has so why add more kids unless they expect those kids to pump up test scores?

People are too obsessed with test scores. Don’t worry about the average or median score. It is meaningless if you have for example a center that pulls students from other schools or a large number of low SES or ESL students. Truly, the average and median scores tell you nothing about how good the school is.

Good luck changing that. Start with the new VDOE accreditation system, the. The FCPS school board ,and hit Redfin, Zillow and great schools next.

They push that narrative for marketing but doesn’t mean it is a good metric o evaluate a school. When you see an ad or commercial for a floor cleaner, and you see people ecstatic about cleaning just because they use that product and that it solves all their problems, do you believe you’ll be dancing through life if you use it?

Forgot to add old/new, the VDOE isn’t measuring the right things.

My friend, we agree test scores are a bad measure of a school or even how educated and ready for adulthood and citizenship a child/teen may be.

We disagree that anything or anyone is going to change that anytime soon.

I didn’t say anyone would change the metric, but a good analyst understands that those measures are not what should be used.

For example, average SAT score at Langley HS with very little poverty or at-risk students (less than 5%) is 1314 in 2022
(92nd-93rd percentile), while at Herndon HS with a high number of at-risk (FARMS) students (55%) is 1187 (80th percentile) still well above the average. Can you honestly say Langley is doing a great job based on these scores given its demographics? And can you say with a straight face that Herndon is a FAILING school (per some on DCUM) with that average score particularly with the number of at-risk students with presumably dragging down the average?

One could argue that Langley HS is underachieving and Herndon HS is overachieving.

Lewis HS — which has a similar number of at risk kids as Herndon HS (55%) AND uses IB — has an average SAT of 1063 (60th percentile). A lower average score but still NOT FAILING. This could likely be due to the use of IB versus AP.

South Lakes HS, which also has IB but fewer at risk students (35 percent) than Herndon or Lewis, has an average SAT score of 1205 similar to Herndon. However, one could argue it is also underperforming given it has IB like Lewis and fewer at risk kids than either Herndon or Lewis.

About 18% of West Springfield’s students are at risk. Its average SAT score is 1195 (81st percentile) which is very close to Herndon and South Lakes average scores. WSHS is underperforming compared to its neighbor Lewis HS given the IB and higher poverty. Seems WSHS parents would get a better bang for their buck at Herndon HS.



This was all back of the napkin using data from:

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-sat-scores-continue-surpass-state-and-global-averages

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108%3A8

https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/understanding-scores/sat

Great, now let’s hear about the student safety and incident data from Langley vs. Lewis. VDOE hides it now because they don’t want parents to know what is really going on at some of these schools.

Why don't you share where you get your student safety and incident data to support your insinuations about Lewis. Langley has an instructional assistant doing inappropriate things in the classroom. That sounds pretty unsafe for teenage girls. And that was just the one they caught.

All of FCPS must be dangerous then, because Reid had security on hand just to meet with a few coaches. Scary!!!! I’m laughing pretty hard at those who think any school in Fairfax County is scary. They must live pretty insulated lives.

I think another poster nailed it when they said these parents wrap up their identity in where their kids go to school. Its an endorphin release they wouldn't get by saying HHS.

Do you even hear yourself talk? I can’t fathom hating neighbors as much as you do.

Says the poster desperately trying to avoid their kids going to school with the poors. Ha!

Not me, as soon as I caught wind of the potential changes we made alternate plans. But I don’t malign you or your kids.

I feel sorry for anyone from great falls who has to interact with you in the future.

Any of the alternate plans are going to be disruptive, too.

Homeschooling = kids don't get to spend as much time with their peers

Private school = kids have to make a new group of friends

Different public school/same pyramid in FCPS = kids have to make a new group of friends unless already in MS/HS.

Different jurisdiction = kids have to make a new group of friends

Plus at some point your kids figure out that you did this to avoid sending them to school with Hispanic kids.

You all really like to social engineer others people’s lives. Don’t worry, we’re living our best lives and sleep well at night.

I don't care what you do. Just pointing out your boast isn't the life hack you seem to think it is.

There are 117 pages of posts on this topic that show that you and the other poster very much do care where my kids go to school.

I’m sorry to disappoint you in that regard.

Just because people spar with you when you wear your bigotry on your sleeve so openly doesn't mean they care where your kids go to school.

Exactly.

Again, the 117 pages of your and that other poster’s comments belie this sentiment. You do seem to very much have an opinion on where my kids go.

Not at all.

^^Gaslighting at its finest.
-DP

No one cares where your kids go to school. They may have a view as to where you should go.

Wow, pedantic much? That’s exactly what the PP was saying. I’ve helpfully bolded it for you. Funny, I don’t have an opinion/view about where *anyone’s* kids - other than my own - go to school. But do continue fretting and obsessing over other people’s kids and then gaslighting about it.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Credibility destroyed!

Reid, I would rather you gaslight me by revealing the text messages and telling me you don't believe in any wrongdoing by Hayfield.

What other lies and truth twisting is coming from you while information is hidden at gatehouse?

It's not just Reid. The seven School Board members who rushed to pledge their allegiance to Reid at the same time as the Hayfield situation was only getting more chaotic all need to resign. They cannot be trusted with school boundaries or anything else.

The Compromised Seven are:

Sandy Anderson
Seema Dixit
Karl Frisch
Robyn Lady
Kyle McDaniel
Marcia St. John-Cunning
Rachna Sizemore-Heizer

RESIGN!!!

"The Sordid Seven"

They truly have cemented themselves as the Sordid Seven with this. Let's take a look outside of the Sordid Seven: Ricardy, Maren, and Moon took a stand about grandfathering, they at least care a little bit about FCPS students and families. Dunne has shown candor and transparency, and other districts rely on him for information about boundary reviews. McElveen just dodged a bullet by not signing on. The remainder are the Sordid Seven.

Dunne sent an email today with a joint statement from himself, Anderson, and McElveen outlining their “95 Theses” on how FCPS “failed to protect their student athletes and maintain the integrity of its athletic program.”

I can’t believe that a HS football recruiting scandal in Northern Virginia, of all the possible things, could be the thing that brings down a superintendent.

Hoping it brings down the whole school board. This residency fraud is the likely culprit for a lot of what’s wrong with fcps

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

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Anonymous wrote:55% are low income. Typically that means Title 1 services which give a lower teacher-student ratio. That is exactly what Lewis has so why add more kids unless they expect those kids to pump up test scores?

People are too obsessed with test scores. Don’t worry about the average or median score. It is meaningless if you have for example a center that pulls students from other schools or a large number of low SES or ESL students. Truly, the average and median scores tell you nothing about how good the school is.

Good luck changing that. Start with the new VDOE accreditation system, the. The FCPS school board ,and hit Redfin, Zillow and great schools next.

They push that narrative for marketing but doesn’t mean it is a good metric o evaluate a school. When you see an ad or commercial for a floor cleaner, and you see people ecstatic about cleaning just because they use that product and that it solves all their problems, do you believe you’ll be dancing through life if you use it?

Forgot to add old/new, the VDOE isn’t measuring the right things.

My friend, we agree test scores are a bad measure of a school or even how educated and ready for adulthood and citizenship a child/teen may be.

We disagree that anything or anyone is going to change that anytime soon.

I didn’t say anyone would change the metric, but a good analyst understands that those measures are not what should be used.

For example, average SAT score at Langley HS with very little poverty or at-risk students (less than 5%) is 1314 in 2022
(92nd-93rd percentile), while at Herndon HS with a high number of at-risk (FARMS) students (55%) is 1187 (80th percentile) still well above the average. Can you honestly say Langley is doing a great job based on these scores given its demographics? And can you say with a straight face that Herndon is a FAILING school (per some on DCUM) with that average score particularly with the number of at-risk students with presumably dragging down the average?

One could argue that Langley HS is underachieving and Herndon HS is overachieving.

Lewis HS — which has a similar number of at risk kids as Herndon HS (55%) AND uses IB — has an average SAT of 1063 (60th percentile). A lower average score but still NOT FAILING. This could likely be due to the use of IB versus AP.

South Lakes HS, which also has IB but fewer at risk students (35 percent) than Herndon or Lewis, has an average SAT score of 1205 similar to Herndon. However, one could argue it is also underperforming given it has IB like Lewis and fewer at risk kids than either Herndon or Lewis.

About 18% of West Springfield’s students are at risk. Its average SAT score is 1195 (81st percentile) which is very close to Herndon and South Lakes average scores. WSHS is underperforming compared to its neighbor Lewis HS given the IB and higher poverty. Seems WSHS parents would get a better bang for their buck at Herndon HS.



This was all back of the napkin using data from:

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-sat-scores-continue-surpass-state-and-global-averages

https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108%3A8

https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/understanding-scores/sat

Great, now let’s hear about the student safety and incident data from Langley vs. Lewis. VDOE hides it now because they don’t want parents to know what is really going on at some of these schools.

Why don't you share where you get your student safety and incident data to support your insinuations about Lewis. Langley has an instructional assistant doing inappropriate things in the classroom. That sounds pretty unsafe for teenage girls. And that was just the one they caught.

All of FCPS must be dangerous then, because Reid had security on hand just to meet with a few coaches. Scary!!!! I’m laughing pretty hard at those who think any school in Fairfax County is scary. They must live pretty insulated lives.

I think another poster nailed it when they said these parents wrap up their identity in where their kids go to school. Its an endorphin release they wouldn't get by saying HHS.

Do you even hear yourself talk? I can’t fathom hating neighbors as much as you do.

Says the poster desperately trying to avoid their kids going to school with the poors. Ha!

Not me, as soon as I caught wind of the potential changes we made alternate plans. But I don’t malign you or your kids.

I feel sorry for anyone from great falls who has to interact with you in the future.

Any of the alternate plans are going to be disruptive, too.

Homeschooling = kids don't get to spend as much time with their peers

Private school = kids have to make a new group of friends

Different public school/same pyramid in FCPS = kids have to make a new group of friends unless already in MS/HS.

Different jurisdiction = kids have to make a new group of friends

Plus at some point your kids figure out that you did this to avoid sending them to school with Hispanic kids.

You all really like to social engineer others people’s lives. Don’t worry, we’re living our best lives and sleep well at night.

I don't care what you do. Just pointing out your boast isn't the life hack you seem to think it is.

There are 117 pages of posts on this topic that show that you and the other poster very much do care where my kids go to school.

I’m sorry to disappoint you in that regard.

Just because people spar with you when you wear your bigotry on your sleeve so openly doesn't mean they care where your kids go to school.

Exactly.

Again, the 117 pages of your and that other poster’s comments belie this sentiment. You do seem to very much have an opinion on where my kids go.

Not at all.

^^Gaslighting at its finest.
-DP

No one cares where your kids go to school. They may have a view as to where you should go.

Wow, pedantic much? That’s exactly what the PP was saying. I’ve helpfully bolded it for you. Funny, I don’t have an opinion/view about where *anyone’s* kids - other than my own - go to school. But do continue fretting and obsessing over other people’s kids and then gaslighting about it.
DP

You missed the point, and if there’s anything obsessive it’s your bizarre cut-and paste jobs.

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I just don’t see how they can go through with any boundary changes when there is obvious residency fraud that the superintendent and most of the SB are aware of and are sweeping under the rug.

At the very least that makes the enrollment numbers incredibly suspicious.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

Yes, count me among those who are confused as to why folks seem to think Langley is the only pyramid who will be affected by the comprehensive (radical?) boundary review.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

Yes, count me among those who are confused as to why folks seem to think Langley is the only pyramid who will be affected by the comprehensive (radical?) boundary review.

No one thinks that. They just get upset more easily.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

Yes, count me among those who are confused as to why folks seem to think Langley is the only pyramid who will be affected by the comprehensive (radical?) boundary review.

I suspect it’s because certain areas don’t know they are at risk. The changes will be harsh for families who are blindsided by the boundary changes.

Much like Reid got blindsided by Fairfax times. I hope she gets separated from her FCPS building just like she plans for FCPS students across the county.

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Also FCPS administrators and staff should be held to task for meeting locations. ie in boundary Marshall [Tysons]pyramid is booked for Westfield [further than Dulles Airport]. Note because they went with regions there are dramatically different numbers of potential attendees per school cafeteria.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

Yes, count me among those who are confused as to why folks seem to think Langley is the only pyramid who will be affected by the comprehensive (radical?) boundary review.

Because you’re school isn’t rich enough to matter.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

Yes, count me among those who are confused as to why folks seem to think Langley is the only pyramid who will be affected by the comprehensive (radical?) boundary review.

Because you’re school isn’t rich enough to matter.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is going to create an entirely new administrative system full of hassles for a small group of 9th graders just to prevent Langley kids from being sent to Herndon.

Langley parents will use the money and connections. No Langley kids will move to Herndon schools. It will cost them too much social capital to let that happen.

Good! I was not looking forward to having to work the concession stand with a disgruntled ex-Langley parent anyway!

I really don’t want to deal with the insufferable Langley parents (‚cause those will be the ones we’re sent) at our school. I do hope they get hit by a large karma bus though.

It’s fascinating to see you so desire to move Forestville kids to your school pyramid and then hate them so much at the same time. Someone could write a dissertation on your cognitive dissonance.

H*ll no. I really do not want them at our school. Keep them in their pen.

Please let your school board rep know your feelings!

Thank you, I have. I truly hate the people over there. All we would here about is their children who poop unicorns and daisies being unable to cope at HHS while their SES peers at HHS run circles around them academically. We’d need to set up a nursery for those and their parents.

You don't believe that.

Neither that the upper middle class at Herndon is equal in net worth and income to Langley, nor that they are academically superior.

That's why you're so angry.

I promise you it's not that serious. Herndon is obviously a perfectly fine school academically and I hope you haven't embittered your children with this toxic inferiority complex.

DP but why do you think that just because a child happens to have wealthy parents and live in Great Falls, they are smarter than kids who have slightly less wealthy parents and live in Herndon? That's odd.

Your reading comprehension is poor or you are being willfully obtuse.

My assertion is that the poster does not believe that the upper economic end of the Herndon student population is at the same monetary level of Langley kids. That this poster does not believe that the upper economic end of Herndon "runs circles" academically around Langley children.

Nowhere did I state that moving to or being born in any particular zip code makes you brilliant or more brilliant than someone who has a little less money. I did not state that kids at Langley "run circles" around the middle class/upper middle class kids at Herndon. I'm quite sure that they are comparable in grades, SAT scores, accolades and college admits. My kids played youth sports with kids from Herndon, went/go to college with kids from Herndon High School. I have first-hand knowledge of the obvious.

That poster has a screaming inferiority complex and it's unhealthy. Whether children currently zoned for Langley end up putting on that black and red and become Hornets or remain Saxons, she would do well to address her mental issues. Like I said, it's NOT that serious. I would say the same on the flip side to those Great Falls residents--actually I HAVE said the same to a few--who think being zoned to Langley is a core part of their self-image and that they will just DIE if the boundaries change, even if done for a good reason.

If the boundaries change don't have a chip on your shoulder about the kids in the class or the fellow PTSA parents just because the government changed the neighborhoods/streets assigned to government schools.

Safety differences at the schools are concerning to me, so I find your use of “DIE” interesting.

Do you have enough peanuts back there in the gallery, now that your kids are through the school pyramid that you chose?

Your last paragraph, in particular, is oddly condescending, given that it sounds like you took advantage of those same government schools. One has to wonder how you would’ve reacted in this situation. I’m guessing you wouldn’t have been PTA President.

Safety should be a concern of every parent. FCPS is under no obligation to care more about your child's safety than the children in any other pyramid.

I don't eat peanuts. Chocolate covered pistachios are what I go for on the rare occasion I eat nuts. I didn't choose the Langley pyramid. We moved here for the land, the community feel, the proximity to parks, the beautiful lot. I knew FCPS had a good reputation, so we were fine with that as a back-up. My children were privately educated when we moved into the area.

Government school is government school. If you want to be snooty, at least shell out a few tens of thousands for private so you have something more substantial to keep your nose in the air at the right angle.

As it happens, I was one of the people who actively worked to stop the move to change policy to focus on the racial and economic makeup of schools, because it's bullspit.

I was knocking on doors talking to neighbors, emailing community groups and telling parents on the sidelines at games what was going on. Many hours of my life were spent working against empowering the school board to rearrange schools by race, class, and ethnicity, deciding that "This street should go to School A because it's got middle class Indian Americans. Oh, but this street over here must go to School B because that one needs some working class white kids."

If they were REALLY zoning for capacity and efficiency, then I wouldn't have spent any time on that. Maybe I wouldn't have sent my kids to the new zoned school, or would have pulled them out of the pyramid for private. (Some neighbors didn't care about rezoning as long as they were "safe" and the school didn't really change. They didn't understand the goal was to homogenize the schools) if I thought safety would be an issue. Moving them because we have a fancy house on a large lot and are just so far above everyone else because of it? Not a thing.

FCPS's motivations are STILL bullspit, but increasingly blue GF (and the rest of the county) decided that the party who wanted to move their kids around based on melanin and bank accounts deserved to be elected, and elected again, so here we are.

In the end, I think that the comprehensive boundary review's effect on the Langley pyramid will irritate a small number of families currently zoned for Langley, leave the zone largely unchanged, and greatly disappoint/piss off people that are Great Falls/Langley haters.

You can calm down and don't forget the tree lighting is this weekend. Come have some hot cocoa, listen to the kids sing and chill the F out.

They are not the only pyramid to be effected, right? There will be others.

Yes, count me among those who are confused as to why folks seem to think Langley is the only pyramid who will be affected by the comprehensive (radical?) boundary review.

Home values

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Here's an idea. Clean up the identity fraud and combine that data with what enrollments would be if AAP centers and general pupil placement were eliminated. I'm not suggested anything be removed. But how can the country get a true picture of where kids are physically located? Census data? Tax records? You have to find that baseline before looking at moving boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Clean up the identity fraud and combine that data with what enrollments would be if AAP centers and general pupil placement were eliminated. I'm not suggested anything be removed. But how can the country get a true picture of where kids are physically located? Census data? Tax records? You have to find that baseline before looking at moving boundaries.

This makes too much sense.

They really don’t care on getting things right. Just look at how long they’ve neglected McLean HS, yet plan to waste over $80 million on a new and unnecessary Dunn Loring ES. It becomes a power play for them to demonstrate they can do whatever the hell they want, regardless of whether it makes sense.

The only way things will ever get better is if people like Karl Frisch are expelled from public office.