FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

Haha I just came upon this conversation in a mom FB group. As a WSHS I didn’t know what was going on but I wanted to ask, as a teacher in the Lewis pyramid, what are they worried about? Just to see what they say is their concern for the possible move to Lewis.

I’m in that same FB group. I don’t want my kids to go to different high schools if the redistricting happens when my oldest is a rising senior. I’m not afraid of the brown immigrants; I’m one myself. I’d rather my kids go to South County where we have a lot of friends and are also a part of that community.

I also see no discussion of how they’re going to prop up Lewis other than sending some WS kids there.

I agree.

Moving high school students, especially sophomores through seniors, is unconscionable.

Tell me teacher, if they move a hundred or so 10th and 11th graders from WSHS, how many of those kids are going to have the opportunity to be elected class officer or representative? Club officer? Editor of the yearbook or school newspaper?

The elections occur in the spring. Those WSHS rising juniors and seniors will be conpletely shut out of all upper classmen leadership opportunities for the school years leading up to their college applications.

How many of them will be selected captain of the sports teams their junior and senior years?

Those captain positions are not given to first year players.

The kids who transfer to Lewis from WSHS will be completely shut out of captains positions, even if they were on track to hold those positions at WSHS.

Transferring during high school greatly screws with your college applications.

Ask any military kid who has transferred during high school. There are many of them at WSHS.

I agree that it gets iffy. If I have a junior in 2 years I don’t want them moved for the last two years. I wish there was a way to ease into it.

On the other hand, Lewis is way less competitive. There is little to no cutting for the popular sports of WSHS and Lewis wasn’t even able to have a baseball team so maybe positive shuffles can be made.

Also why is everyone focused on WSHS? Is that the only school that the school board is focused on when they discuss boundary changes related to Lewis?

What other high school shares a large boundary with Lewis and is projected to have over 2900 kids in five years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

It’s not about punishment but even-handedness and fairness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it me or does it feel like we are getting a spate of threads about boundaries the past couple of months?

The FCPS Governance Committee is proposing changes to boundary adjustments policy 8130 - which will enable expedited adjustments and more leeway for Super and school board to implement boundary adjustments. The public meeting is May 28th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

Haha I just came upon this conversation in a mom FB group. As a WSHS I didn’t know what was going on but I wanted to ask, as a teacher in the Lewis pyramid, what are they worried about? Just to see what they say is their concern for the possible move to Lewis.

I’m in that same FB group. I don’t want my kids to go to different high schools if the redistricting happens when my oldest is a rising senior. I’m not afraid of the brown immigrants; I’m one myself. I’d rather my kids go to South County where we have a lot of friends and are also a part of that community.

I also see no discussion of how they’re going to prop up Lewis other than sending some WS kids there.

I agree.

Moving high school students, especially sophomores through seniors, is unconscionable.

Tell me teacher, if they move a hundred or so 10th and 11th graders from WSHS, how many of those kids are going to have the opportunity to be elected class officer or representative? Club officer? Editor of the yearbook or school newspaper?

The elections occur in the spring. Those WSHS rising juniors and seniors will be conpletely shut out of all upper classmen leadership opportunities for the school years leading up to their college applications.

How many of them will be selected captain of the sports teams their junior and senior years?

Those captain positions are not given to first year players.

The kids who transfer to Lewis from WSHS will be completely shut out of captains positions, even if they were on track to hold those positions at WSHS.

Transferring during high school greatly screws with your college applications.

Ask any military kid who has transferred during high school. There are many of them at WSHS.

I agree that it gets iffy. If I have a junior in 2 years I don’t want them moved for the last two years. I wish there was a way to ease into it.

On the other hand, Lewis is way less competitive. There is little to no cutting for the popular sports of WSHS and Lewis wasn’t even able to have a baseball team so maybe positive shuffles can be made.

Also why is everyone focused on WSHS? Is that the only school that the school board is focused on when they discuss boundary changes related to Lewis?

What other high school shares a large boundary with Lewis and is projected to have over 2900 kids in five years?

That projection is NOT accurate.

It does not match any of the published enrollment numbers for any of the WSHS feeders, including Irving.

WSHS should decrease enrollment slightly over the next two years, then by a couple hundred once the class of 2026 graduates.

Something is very off with that 2900 estimate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

You are making wildly false assumptions. I’m not complaining about past boundary changes, but noting they have ample precedent in FCPS. In some cases they have been successful and achieved their intended results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

Haha I just came upon this conversation in a mom FB group. As a WSHS I didn’t know what was going on but I wanted to ask, as a teacher in the Lewis pyramid, what are they worried about? Just to see what they say is their concern for the possible move to Lewis.

I’m in that same FB group. I don’t want my kids to go to different high schools if the redistricting happens when my oldest is a rising senior. I’m not afraid of the brown immigrants; I’m one myself. I’d rather my kids go to South County where we have a lot of friends and are also a part of that community.

I also see no discussion of how they’re going to prop up Lewis other than sending some WS kids there.

I agree.

Moving high school students, especially sophomores through seniors, is unconscionable.

Tell me teacher, if they move a hundred or so 10th and 11th graders from WSHS, how many of those kids are going to have the opportunity to be elected class officer or representative? Club officer? Editor of the yearbook or school newspaper?

The elections occur in the spring. Those WSHS rising juniors and seniors will be conpletely shut out of all upper classmen leadership opportunities for the school years leading up to their college applications.

How many of them will be selected captain of the sports teams their junior and senior years?

Those captain positions are not given to first year players.

The kids who transfer to Lewis from WSHS will be completely shut out of captains positions, even if they were on track to hold those positions at WSHS.

Transferring during high school greatly screws with your college applications.

Ask any military kid who has transferred during high school. There are many of them at WSHS.

I agree that it gets iffy. If I have a junior in 2 years I don’t want them moved for the last two years. I wish there was a way to ease into it.

On the other hand, Lewis is way less competitive. There is little to no cutting for the popular sports of WSHS and Lewis wasn’t even able to have a baseball team so maybe positive shuffles can be made.

Also why is everyone focused on WSHS? Is that the only school that the school board is focused on when they discuss boundary changes related to Lewis?

What other high school shares a large boundary with Lewis and is projected to have over 2900 kids in five years?

That projection is NOT accurate.

It does not match any of the published enrollment numbers for any of the WSHS feeders, including Irving.

WSHS should decrease enrollment slightly over the next two years, then by a couple hundred once the class of 2026 graduates.

Something is very off with that 2900 estimate.

Then you should FOIA the projection methodology and challenge it. Simply claiming they are getting it wrong will get you nowhere. WS parents have a history of making statements about impending enrollment drops that have proven incorrect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

Haha I just came upon this conversation in a mom FB group. As a WSHS I didn’t know what was going on but I wanted to ask, as a teacher in the Lewis pyramid, what are they worried about? Just to see what they say is their concern for the possible move to Lewis.

I’m in that same FB group. I don’t want my kids to go to different high schools if the redistricting happens when my oldest is a rising senior. I’m not afraid of the brown immigrants; I’m one myself. I’d rather my kids go to South County where we have a lot of friends and are also a part of that community.

I also see no discussion of how they’re going to prop up Lewis other than sending some WS kids there.

I agree.

Moving high school students, especially sophomores through seniors, is unconscionable.

Tell me teacher, if they move a hundred or so 10th and 11th graders from WSHS, how many of those kids are going to have the opportunity to be elected class officer or representative? Club officer? Editor of the yearbook or school newspaper?

The elections occur in the spring. Those WSHS rising juniors and seniors will be conpletely shut out of all upper classmen leadership opportunities for the school years leading up to their college applications.

How many of them will be selected captain of the sports teams their junior and senior years?

Those captain positions are not given to first year players.

The kids who transfer to Lewis from WSHS will be completely shut out of captains positions, even if they were on track to hold those positions at WSHS.

Transferring during high school greatly screws with your college applications.

Ask any military kid who has transferred during high school. There are many of them at WSHS.

I agree that it gets iffy. If I have a junior in 2 years I don’t want them moved for the last two years. I wish there was a way to ease into it.

On the other hand, Lewis is way less competitive. There is little to no cutting for the popular sports of WSHS and Lewis wasn’t even able to have a baseball team so maybe positive shuffles can be made.

Also why is everyone focused on WSHS? Is that the only school that the school board is focused on when they discuss boundary changes related to Lewis?

What other high school shares a large boundary with Lewis and is projected to have over 2900 kids in five years?

That projection is NOT accurate.

It does not match any of the published enrollment numbers for any of the WSHS feeders, including Irving.

WSHS should decrease enrollment slightly over the next two years, then by a couple hundred once the class of 2026 graduates.

Something is very off with that 2900 estimate.

Then you should FOIA the projection methodology and challenge it. Simply claiming they are getting it wrong will get you nowhere. WS parents have a history of making statements about impending enrollment drops that have proven incorrect.

You know the SB would bury PP in cost and paper. The SB and its staff think that they are above public scrutiny.

Lewis parents have a history of lying all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

Haha I just came upon this conversation in a mom FB group. As a WSHS I didn’t know what was going on but I wanted to ask, as a teacher in the Lewis pyramid, what are they worried about? Just to see what they say is their concern for the possible move to Lewis.

I’m in that same FB group. I don’t want my kids to go to different high schools if the redistricting happens when my oldest is a rising senior. I’m not afraid of the brown immigrants; I’m one myself. I’d rather my kids go to South County where we have a lot of friends and are also a part of that community.

I also see no discussion of how they’re going to prop up Lewis other than sending some WS kids there.

I agree.

Moving high school students, especially sophomores through seniors, is unconscionable.

Tell me teacher, if they move a hundred or so 10th and 11th graders from WSHS, how many of those kids are going to have the opportunity to be elected class officer or representative? Club officer? Editor of the yearbook or school newspaper?

The elections occur in the spring. Those WSHS rising juniors and seniors will be conpletely shut out of all upper classmen leadership opportunities for the school years leading up to their college applications.

How many of them will be selected captain of the sports teams their junior and senior years?

Those captain positions are not given to first year players.

The kids who transfer to Lewis from WSHS will be completely shut out of captains positions, even if they were on track to hold those positions at WSHS.

Transferring during high school greatly screws with your college applications.

Ask any military kid who has transferred during high school. There are many of them at WSHS.

I agree that it gets iffy. If I have a junior in 2 years I don’t want them moved for the last two years. I wish there was a way to ease into it.

On the other hand, Lewis is way less competitive. There is little to no cutting for the popular sports of WSHS and Lewis wasn’t even able to have a baseball team so maybe positive shuffles can be made.

Also why is everyone focused on WSHS? Is that the only school that the school board is focused on when they discuss boundary changes related to Lewis?

What other high school shares a large boundary with Lewis and is projected to have over 2900 kids in five years?

That projection is NOT accurate.

It does not match any of the published enrollment numbers for any of the WSHS feeders, including Irving.

WSHS should decrease enrollment slightly over the next two years, then by a couple hundred once the class of 2026 graduates.

Something is very off with that 2900 estimate.

Then you should FOIA the projection methodology and challenge it. Simply claiming they are getting it wrong will get you nowhere. WS parents have a history of making statements about impending enrollment drops that have proven incorrect.

You know the SB would bury PP in cost and paper. The SB and its staff think that they are above public scrutiny.

Lewis parents have a history of lying all the time.

Lolz so now everyone is out to get WS students?

And please, point me to posts from the “lying all the time” Lewis parents.

You’re just gonna keep throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks, eh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

You are making wildly false assumptions. I’m not complaining about past boundary changes, but noting they have ample precedent in FCPS. In some cases they have been successful and achieved their intended results.

Which cases have been successful and what are the intended results? There is not an achievement gap that has been closed because of this. The only result is school average test scores go up because the school composition changes. This doesn’t mean the individual kids do better. It means nothing to the individual kids who were moved except they get moved away from the community they know. When do we start helping the KIDS and stop looking at data averages as measures of success?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

Haha I just came upon this conversation in a mom FB group. As a WSHS I didn’t know what was going on but I wanted to ask, as a teacher in the Lewis pyramid, what are they worried about? Just to see what they say is their concern for the possible move to Lewis.

I’m in that same FB group. I don’t want my kids to go to different high schools if the redistricting happens when my oldest is a rising senior. I’m not afraid of the brown immigrants; I’m one myself. I’d rather my kids go to South County where we have a lot of friends and are also a part of that community.

I also see no discussion of how they’re going to prop up Lewis other than sending some WS kids there.

I agree.

Moving high school students, especially sophomores through seniors, is unconscionable.

Tell me teacher, if they move a hundred or so 10th and 11th graders from WSHS, how many of those kids are going to have the opportunity to be elected class officer or representative? Club officer? Editor of the yearbook or school newspaper?

The elections occur in the spring. Those WSHS rising juniors and seniors will be conpletely shut out of all upper classmen leadership opportunities for the school years leading up to their college applications.

How many of them will be selected captain of the sports teams their junior and senior years?

Those captain positions are not given to first year players.

The kids who transfer to Lewis from WSHS will be completely shut out of captains positions, even if they were on track to hold those positions at WSHS.

Transferring during high school greatly screws with your college applications.

Ask any military kid who has transferred during high school. There are many of them at WSHS.

I agree that it gets iffy. If I have a junior in 2 years I don’t want them moved for the last two years. I wish there was a way to ease into it.

On the other hand, Lewis is way less competitive. There is little to no cutting for the popular sports of WSHS and Lewis wasn’t even able to have a baseball team so maybe positive shuffles can be made.

Also why is everyone focused on WSHS? Is that the only school that the school board is focused on when they discuss boundary changes related to Lewis?

What other high school shares a large boundary with Lewis and is projected to have over 2900 kids in five years?

That projection is NOT accurate.

It does not match any of the published enrollment numbers for any of the WSHS feeders, including Irving.

WSHS should decrease enrollment slightly over the next two years, then by a couple hundred once the class of 2026 graduates.

Something is very off with that 2900 estimate.

Then you should FOIA the projection methodology and challenge it. Simply claiming they are getting it wrong will get you nowhere. WS parents have a history of making statements about impending enrollment drops that have proven incorrect.

You know the SB would bury PP in cost and paper. The SB and its staff think that they are above public scrutiny.

Lewis parents have a history of lying all the time.

That’s a cop out. If you’re going to claim the FCPS projections are wrong and that it would be such an affront to move to Lewis, you should be more than willing to foot the bill to point out what FCPS staff is getting wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

You are making wildly false assumptions. I’m not complaining about past boundary changes, but noting they have ample precedent in FCPS. In some cases they have been successful and achieved their intended results.

Which cases have been successful and what are the intended results? There is not an achievement gap that has been closed because of this. The only result is school average test scores go up because the school composition changes. This doesn’t mean the individual kids do better. It means nothing to the individual kids who were moved except they get moved away from the community they know. When do we start helping the KIDS and stop looking at data averages as measures of success?

You can’t seriously contend Lewis kids have the same opportunities as West Springfield kids. This needs to change.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

You are making wildly false assumptions. I’m not complaining about past boundary changes, but noting they have ample precedent in FCPS. In some cases they have been successful and achieved their intended results.

Which cases have been successful and what are the intended results? There is not an achievement gap that has been closed because of this. The only result is school average test scores go up because the school composition changes. This doesn’t mean the individual kids do better. It means nothing to the individual kids who were moved except they get moved away from the community they know. When do we start helping the KIDS and stop looking at data averages as measures of success?

You can’t seriously contend Lewis kids have the same opportunities as West Springfield kids. This needs to change.

There are plenty of ways to change this that doesn’t involve moving WSHS kids to Lewis.

The school board hasn’t historically cared about Lewis the way some posters on this board would like to believe. If it did, Lewis wouldn’t have that stupid Academy and crappy AP selections.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

You are making wildly false assumptions. I’m not complaining about past boundary changes, but noting they have ample precedent in FCPS. In some cases they have been successful and achieved their intended results.

Which cases have been successful and what are the intended results? There is not an achievement gap that has been closed because of this. The only result is school average test scores go up because the school composition changes. This doesn’t mean the individual kids do better. It means nothing to the individual kids who were moved except they get moved away from the community they know. When do we start helping the KIDS and stop looking at data averages as measures of success?

You can’t seriously contend Lewis kids have the same opportunities as West Springfield kids. This needs to change.

There are plenty of ways to change this that doesn’t involve moving WSHS kids to Lewis.

The school board hasn’t historically cared about Lewis the way some posters on this board would like to believe. If it did, Lewis wouldn’t have that stupid Academy and crappy AP selections.

I haven’t seen a single alternative offered by WS parents that hasn’t involved either closing or eviscerating Lewis or delays that would continue to leave Lewis students with inferior opportunities compared to their peers just a few miles away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is a true "leopards ate my face moment" for a lot of left leaning WSHS parents who likely voted for SB members pushing boundary adjustments. The same moms who virtue signal via facebook posts about afghan refugees, and with flags in their yard proclaiming "love is love, no human is illegal, black lives matter...." Time to see their true colors as this develops and they face the prospect of sending their infallible children to an 87% minority populated school with inferior academic opportunities.

You would like that because it tells a neat, political story you can use to advocate for your agenda. I promise we can be all those things. If you want to play black and white, one size fits all, that thinking is on you.

We can advocate for better for Lewis kids while seeking out high schools that have high achieving minority peers.
We can say our own neighborhoods and communities shouldn’t be split up because we chose this area because of it’s tight knit community feel. We can say that test scores to make a school look better shouldn’t rule what is best for kids.

There is nuance here and our kids don’t have to be used to bolster up a school’s scores on great schools and the FCPS dashboard.

You can say all those things but they changed HS boundaries in 2008, 2011, 2013, and 2021. When the enrollments are as imbalanced as those at WSHS and Lewis, you don't deserve an exemption.

Deserve? What? Is this a vengeful anger punishment like “you don’t deserve dessert because you backtalked me”? I’m honestly confused why you think children “deserve” boundary changes.

Why would anyone follow HS boundaries in 2008-2013 when their kids aren’t even both born yet?
You sound mad and you seem to want others to feel your pain. That isn’t very admirable.

Context is important. If anything, they've redistricted in the past in circumstances far less compelling than those now suggesting the need for a West Springfield/Lewis boundary adjustment.

Well, then historically in context, this doesn’t work. You are still mad about it (from 16 years ago) and perhaps it is time to try something else for that school and for FCPS rather than disturbing the lives of kids. WSHS has empty classrooms, Lewis is dwindling in its population. Why reach for the same solutions you didn’t like? It sounds like you want to punish people for something you had to do.

You are making wildly false assumptions. I’m not complaining about past boundary changes, but noting they have ample precedent in FCPS. In some cases they have been successful and achieved their intended results.

Which cases have been successful and what are the intended results? There is not an achievement gap that has been closed because of this. The only result is school average test scores go up because the school composition changes. This doesn’t mean the individual kids do better. It means nothing to the individual kids who were moved except they get moved away from the community they know. When do we start helping the KIDS and stop looking at data averages as measures of success?

You can’t seriously contend Lewis kids have the same opportunities as West Springfield kids. This needs to change.

There are plenty of ways to change this that doesn’t involve moving WSHS kids to Lewis.

The school board hasn’t historically cared about Lewis the way some posters on this board would like to believe. If it did, Lewis wouldn’t have that stupid Academy and crappy AP selections.

I haven’t seen a single alternative offered by WS parents that hasn’t involved either closing or eviscerating Lewis or delays that would continue to leave Lewis students with inferior opportunities compared to their peers just a few miles away.

This is accurate.