2021 VA Governors race

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin has vowed to ban "CRT" on his first day of office. That's banning books just like in TX. I hope all the "moderates" who say they're voting for Youngkin have paid attention to what these ridiculous laws are forcing upon teachers and schools in Texas.

Good. I hope he does, although I doubt it will be that simple. CRT is not a "thing," but a concept and unfortunately, one that has infiltrated all areas of curriculum. He won't be able to simply "ban CRT," although he could orchestrate more reason, balanced reviews of things like curriculum and text books, and work to root out ANY implicit bias.

Sounds like you are a big supporter of “CRT”.

DP. Are you saying you support race-based bias? Because that’s sure how it sounds.

How could it sound like that when I didn't say anything about what I support or don't?

I said...it sounds like the PP is a big supporter of "CRT" if PP wants to "root out any implicit bias".

Pp here and nope, not at all. You see, teaching things like the founding of America was one of the greatest achievements in human history is not “bias.” It is a fact.

Would you consider that a "balanced review of things"?

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I’m all for teaching the good, the bad and the ugly, as long as we stick to facts and not interpretation. That the US endured slavery for too many years is a horrible reality and a birth defect of this country. That does not supersede the fact that the founding of the US is one of humanity s greatest achievements. Both of those statements can be true at the same time

So how would you present the founding of this country? What perspectives would you include to ensure it’s balanced?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

My kids learned to distinguish fact from opinion in FCPS elementary school. This poster needs to refresher.

[Anonymous]

Just received a mailer in support of McAuliffe--

put out by the SPCA (aka Humane Society)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

My kids learned to distinguish fact from opinion in FCPS elementary school. This poster needs to refresher.

Yeah, my kids learned that too. But what they didn't learn is the good part, the "opinion" that PP wrote.

Pretty dumb when public schools only teach the bad parts of the country and leave out all the good parts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

My kids learned to distinguish fact from opinion in FCPS elementary school. This poster needs to refresher.

Yeah, my kids learned that too. But what they didn't learn is the good part, the "opinion" that PP wrote.

Pretty dumb when public schools only teach the bad parts of the country and leave out all the good parts.

Evidence of that actually happening? Or is that…your opinion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just received a mailer in support of McAuliffe--

put out by the SPCA (aka Humane Society)

Well, in that case, I’m all in for McAuliffe. 🐶🐱🐹

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

Based on what criteria? How were events ranked? How far back were events under consideration? How do you define “achievement”?

Show us the work behind this “fact”, not opinion.

It does not appear that you have studied much in the context of world history, so I get that you are looking for black-and-white thinking. People much smarter than you and I have written volumes on these topics, tracing the progress of mankind from earliest days. Certainly, the creation of fire and the wheel, for example, rank right up there in human achievement for these earlier peoples. Along with that, you can trace human development in many areas - medicine, the arts, the development of math and numbers, etc etc. The invention of the printing press had a revolutionary effect on man's development, not unlike the creation of the computer centuries later.

The point is, you have to look at all of it in context, which, sadly, is rarely taught in public schools today. The US is the product of Enlightenment-era thinking, which was the first to propose that individuals are inherently free, and that the freedom is not bestowed by a govenmental body (a king, a tribal leader, or anything else), but by God, as a birthright. Presented at the time, this idea was nothing short of revolutionary, and it advanced the progress of humanity out of feudalism, monarchies and waring factions. If that's not an "achievement," I don't know what is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

Based on what criteria? How were events ranked? How far back were events under consideration? How do you define “achievement”?

Show us the work behind this “fact”, not opinion.

It does not appear that you have studied much in the context of world history, so I get that you are looking for black-and-white thinking. People much smarter than you and I have written volumes on these topics, tracing the progress of mankind from earliest days. Certainly, the creation of fire and the wheel, for example, rank right up there in human achievement for these earlier peoples. Along with that, you can trace human development in many areas - medicine, the arts, the development of math and numbers, etc etc. The invention of the printing press had a revolutionary effect on man's development, not unlike the creation of the computer centuries later.

The point is, you have to look at all of it in context, which, sadly, is rarely taught in public schools today. The US is the product of Enlightenment-era thinking, which was the first to propose that individuals are inherently free, and that the freedom is not bestowed by a govenmental body (a king, a tribal leader, or anything else), but by God, as a birthright. Presented at the time, this idea was nothing short of revolutionary, and it advanced the progress of humanity out of feudalism, monarchies and waring factions. If that's not an "achievement," I don't know what is.

“Facts” are black and white.

Opinions require context.

And, while it certainly was an achievement, it sounds like they got a lot wrong. Another reason why it’s good to understand alternate perspectives.

[Anonymous]

And still waiting on the answer to:

So how would you present the founding of this country?

What perspectives would you include to ensure it’s balanced?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And still waiting on the answer to:

So how would you present the founding of this country?

What perspectives would you include to ensure it’s balanced?

Many perspectives. It's not hard to find a variety of viewpoints on this. However, the question of "is America great" is probably not on the curriculum of most K-12 schools and irrelevant to the question of who should be Governor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

My kids learned to distinguish fact from opinion in FCPS elementary school. This poster needs to refresher.

Yeah, my kids learned that too. But what they didn't learn is the good part, the "opinion" that PP wrote.

Pretty dumb when public schools only teach the bad parts of the country and leave out all the good parts.

Your kids didn't learn that America was bad in Virginia schools. Nor do "public school only teach the bad parts of the country and leave out all the good parts." None of this happens -- please come back to reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And still waiting on the answer to:

So how would you present the founding of this country?

What perspectives would you include to ensure it’s balanced?

Many perspectives. It's not hard to find a variety of viewpoints on this. However, the question of "is America great" is probably not on the curriculum of most K-12 schools and irrelevant to the question of who should be Governor.

So we all agree…

> learning about many perspectives is good
> we should try to eliminate implicit bias

Do I have that correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slavery is a fact.

"the US is one of humanity's greatest achievements" is an opinion . I might agree with you but that's not a fact.

Not to a serious student of history. The founding of the US, in context of all world history up until that point, is factually one of the greatest achievements made to that day. So is walking on the moon, as another example

My kids learned to distinguish fact from opinion in FCPS elementary school. This poster needs to refresher.

Yeah, my kids learned that too. But what they didn't learn is the good part, the "opinion" that PP wrote.

Pretty dumb when public schools only teach the bad parts of the country and leave out all the good parts.

Your kids didn't learn that America was bad in Virginia schools. Nor do "public school only teach the bad parts of the country and leave out all the good parts." None of this happens -- please come back to reality.

My kids go to FCPS elementary schools.

I know what they've been taught and what they haven't been taught. If you have kids, pay more attention.

[Anonymous]

I have 3 kids in FCPS and know what they've learned. You are simply making it up.

[Anonymous]

no one other than a couple dozen people care about this phantom “crt.”