GFR Falling apart?

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No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

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Anonymous wrote:So he encourages players to PAY him for extra training and then rewards those players with more play time? And thats listed as a pro? LOL.

And the extra training is just an extension of his practices, honestly. It's called "small group" training but it can be 10+ kids in a session and he charges different amounts to different kids lol. It's honestly insane.

Ever think he was trying to improve the team without the distraction of players who weren’t as capable or serious? Charging for the sessions is necessary otherwise he’d have to include everyone, defeating the purpose, and charging different amounts makes it possible for less affluent kids to join. No one is doing it for free, as we all need to make a living. It’s easy to throw stones based on the $, but I bet what really makes parents upset is that their kid wasn’t invited.

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He's being paid what? 15,000 or so from GFR to coach each team? He's not working for free. Pay to play private lessons on the side are not allowed by most clubs for a reason. Its hugely divisive.

He's being paid more than that per team. His salary is public and it was over $100k last year, making more than the TD and almost as much as the ED!

Yes, it's hugely divisive - ask anyone who has played for him for more than a season. The last thing girls that age need is more divisiveness.....

Unless you’re on the right side of that line. Welcome to real life.

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Why would anyone want their daughter involved in a team run in such a manner by someone who sounds like a grasping, greedy nasty bully?

PP said a bunch of the 2011s will follow him to VRSC. Must be a terrible coach.

I believe she said a few of them will follow him.
But that makes no sense either. Is there space on the existing roster at VRSC to add multiple new players? The VRSC top teams usually have full rosters already.
If I was a VRSC parent, I would want more information from the club on what is going on with an abrupt coach change mid season.

I think the 2011's at VRSC are not that great so maybe they want some of the GFR players.

The first teams at VRSC all carry the max number of players per roster. THat's how they fill the teams. Then they fill the second team. and so one. There's not room for extra players.

Not true. 2013 only has 17.

At VRSC? Then they have one open spot on their team. You can only have 18 at the games. And I'm sure there will be unhappy second team parents if a new coach shows up mid year for the first team dragging along a few favorite players instead of moving up a second team player.

NVA has teams with well over 18 players, they just roster a different 18 for each game. Players don’t just need to earn playing time each week, they need to earn a roster spot each week.

Yeah but VRSC are lower level teams than NVA. Parents don't expect "competing" to attend at game at the GA/RL levels

VRSA and NVA are both GA and VRSC teams are better than NVA across the board!

Not a true statement

VRSC is the top club in the mid atlantic south. NVA is struggling to win games! There might be an exception or 2 but VRSC currently has a stronger GA program.

That’s some strong stuff you’ve been smokin’

Eh, they're right.

2 age groups NVA is higher in the standings. VRSC only has 1 team not in the top 5.

U13 - VRSC 1st place, NVA 2nd place
U14 - VRSC 4th, NVA 2nd
U15 - VRSC 7th, NVA 9th
U16 VRSC 5th, NVA 10th
U17 VRS 1st, NVA 10th
U18 - VRSC 5th, NVA 1st

Meh, I'm not knocking last season because they earned what they earned getting the champions cup bid. I can't speak for all the age groups but strength of schedule and the results of that schedule albeit wins for the 13's have allowed them to be in 1st for the first half of this season. If you look at their goal differential in comparison to the teams nipping at their heels you'll see that sitting on that pedestal may be short lived and obviously you can only play who's on your schedule but it's a big factor in the standings. This is probably why their was a shake up with the coach because the parents and even the club recognized it.

So your logic is that they brought in an awful coach because it will bring a few girls from GFR to help them stay competitive this spring? Makes sense

The 13s are the team VRSC is banking on to keep VRSC relevant after the 09s graduate, but they really struggled in the fall notwithstanding the appearance of their win-loss record. If GD can’t figure it out, players are going to leave. It might already be too late given that tryouts are upon us. CC isn’t changing coaches mid-season to stay the course, a big shakeup is coming.

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The 09s don’t make VRSC relevant. They embarrassed the club at champions league.

true but if the gf center mids or strikers are good that can really help VRSC. VRSC has no one that can play center mid & no one that can score. they have a superior goalie & superior defense. with only 1 d1 player on the roster, they are in need of help offensively.

GFR 09’s have a great center mid but she’s not going anywhere. Doubt anyone else is either now that NM is officially the coach.

09’s have the most talent but they have some incredible 10’s playing up. It will be interesting how this all plays out. I wouldn’t be so naive to think that some not all make a run outta GFR with HS season on the horizon and fewer club commitments. The 11’s are the ones who have more to consider.

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

The asst coaches will be doing all the coaching, because those 2 will be on the other side of the river. It’s not doable. Wake up people!

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

2011s are playing EDP as well as ECNL-RL so they have a spring season.

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

The asst coaches will be doing all the coaching, because those 2 will be on the other side of the river. It’s not doable. Wake up people!

Are you a parent on a team at GFR that NM or ML currently coach? Because I am and we have no issues with them coaching at Bethesda, they both do a great job with their GFR teams and juggling both. GD rarely showed up for 08's according to many parents on that team and had become less available to his other teams this year as well so they are all used to having the assistants do a lot of the work.

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

The asst coaches will be doing all the coaching, because those 2 will be on the other side of the river. It’s not doable. Wake up people!

Are you a parent on a team at GFR that NM or ML currently coach? Because I am and we have no issues with them coaching at Bethesda, they both do a great job with their GFR teams and juggling both. GD rarely showed up for 08's according to many parents on that team and had become less available to his other teams this year as well so they are all used to having the assistants do a lot of the work.

My child was on one of GD teams and he showed up for 90 percent of their games and when he couldn't because he was coaching another team we had our assistant coach who knows the girls as well as he does. I'm not sure what your issue with that is, especially since you weren't on the team.

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

The asst coaches will be doing all the coaching, because those 2 will be on the other side of the river. It’s not doable. Wake up people!

Are you a parent on a team at GFR that NM or ML currently coach? Because I am and we have no issues with them coaching at Bethesda, they both do a great job with their GFR teams and juggling both. GD rarely showed up for 08's according to many parents on that team and had become less available to his other teams this year as well so they are all used to having the assistants do a lot of the work.

My child was on one of GD teams and he showed up for 90 percent of their games and when he couldn't because he was coaching another team we had our assistant coach who knows the girls as well as he does. I'm not sure what your issue with that is, especially since you weren't on the team.

No issue with that if parents were happy, just trying to say it won't be a lot different for those who had GD b/c he also had a lot of teams as do ML and NM.

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Anonymous wrote:So he encourages players to PAY him for extra training and then rewards those players with more play time? And thats listed as a pro? LOL.

And the extra training is just an extension of his practices, honestly. It's called "small group" training but it can be 10+ kids in a session and he charges different amounts to different kids lol. It's honestly insane.

Ever think he was trying to improve the team without the distraction of players who weren’t as capable or serious? Charging for the sessions is necessary otherwise he’d have to include everyone, defeating the purpose, and charging different amounts makes it possible for less affluent kids to join. No one is doing it for free, as we all need to make a living. It’s easy to throw stones based on the $, but I bet what really makes parents upset is that their kid wasn’t invited.

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He's being paid what? 15,000 or so from GFR to coach each team? He's not working for free. Pay to play private lessons on the side are not allowed by most clubs for a reason. Its hugely divisive.

He's being paid more than that per team. His salary is public and it was over $100k last year, making more than the TD and almost as much as the ED!

Yes, it's hugely divisive - ask anyone who has played for him for more than a season. The last thing girls that age need is more divisiveness.....

Unless you’re on the right side of that line. Welcome to real life.

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Why would anyone want their daughter involved in a team run in such a manner by someone who sounds like a grasping, greedy nasty bully?

PP said a bunch of the 2011s will follow him to VRSC. Must be a terrible coach.

I believe she said a few of them will follow him.
But that makes no sense either. Is there space on the existing roster at VRSC to add multiple new players? The VRSC top teams usually have full rosters already.
If I was a VRSC parent, I would want more information from the club on what is going on with an abrupt coach change mid season.

I think the 2011's at VRSC are not that great so maybe they want some of the GFR players.

The first teams at VRSC all carry the max number of players per roster. THat's how they fill the teams. Then they fill the second team. and so one. There's not room for extra players.

Not true. 2013 only has 17.

At VRSC? Then they have one open spot on their team. You can only have 18 at the games. And I'm sure there will be unhappy second team parents if a new coach shows up mid year for the first team dragging along a few favorite players instead of moving up a second team player.

NVA has teams with well over 18 players, they just roster a different 18 for each game. Players don’t just need to earn playing time each week, they need to earn a roster spot each week.

Yeah but VRSC are lower level teams than NVA. Parents don't expect "competing" to attend at game at the GA/RL levels

VRSA and NVA are both GA and VRSC teams are better than NVA across the board!

Not a true statement

VRSC is the top club in the mid atlantic south. NVA is struggling to win games! There might be an exception or 2 but VRSC currently has a stronger GA program.

That’s some strong stuff you’ve been smokin’

Eh, they're right.

2 age groups NVA is higher in the standings. VRSC only has 1 team not in the top 5.

U13 - VRSC 1st place, NVA 2nd place
U14 - VRSC 4th, NVA 2nd
U15 - VRSC 7th, NVA 9th
U16 VRSC 5th, NVA 10th
U17 VRS 1st, NVA 10th
U18 - VRSC 5th, NVA 1st

Rev will probably win the games where all the NVA girls left (2011, 2010, and 2009's) NVA will probably win the games where the girls stayed (2013, 2012, and 2008's)

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Anonymous wrote:So he encourages players to PAY him for extra training and then rewards those players with more play time? And thats listed as a pro? LOL.

And the extra training is just an extension of his practices, honestly. It's called "small group" training but it can be 10+ kids in a session and he charges different amounts to different kids lol. It's honestly insane.

Ever think he was trying to improve the team without the distraction of players who weren’t as capable or serious? Charging for the sessions is necessary otherwise he’d have to include everyone, defeating the purpose, and charging different amounts makes it possible for less affluent kids to join. No one is doing it for free, as we all need to make a living. It’s easy to throw stones based on the $, but I bet what really makes parents upset is that their kid wasn’t invited.

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He's being paid what? 15,000 or so from GFR to coach each team? He's not working for free. Pay to play private lessons on the side are not allowed by most clubs for a reason. Its hugely divisive.

He's being paid more than that per team. His salary is public and it was over $100k last year, making more than the TD and almost as much as the ED!

Yes, it's hugely divisive - ask anyone who has played for him for more than a season. The last thing girls that age need is more divisiveness.....

Unless you’re on the right side of that line. Welcome to real life.

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Why would anyone want their daughter involved in a team run in such a manner by someone who sounds like a grasping, greedy nasty bully?

PP said a bunch of the 2011s will follow him to VRSC. Must be a terrible coach.

I believe she said a few of them will follow him.
But that makes no sense either. Is there space on the existing roster at VRSC to add multiple new players? The VRSC top teams usually have full rosters already.
If I was a VRSC parent, I would want more information from the club on what is going on with an abrupt coach change mid season.

I think the 2011's at VRSC are not that great so maybe they want some of the GFR players.

The first teams at VRSC all carry the max number of players per roster. THat's how they fill the teams. Then they fill the second team. and so one. There's not room for extra players.

Not true. 2013 only has 17.

At VRSC? Then they have one open spot on their team. You can only have 18 at the games. And I'm sure there will be unhappy second team parents if a new coach shows up mid year for the first team dragging along a few favorite players instead of moving up a second team player.

NVA has teams with well over 18 players, they just roster a different 18 for each game. Players don’t just need to earn playing time each week, they need to earn a roster spot each week.

Yeah but VRSC are lower level teams than NVA. Parents don't expect "competing" to attend at game at the GA/RL levels

VRSA and NVA are both GA and VRSC teams are better than NVA across the board!

Not a true statement

VRSC is the top club in the mid atlantic south. NVA is struggling to win games! There might be an exception or 2 but VRSC currently has a stronger GA program.

That’s some strong stuff you’ve been smokin’

Eh, they're right.

2 age groups NVA is higher in the standings. VRSC only has 1 team not in the top 5.

U13 - VRSC 1st place, NVA 2nd place
U14 - VRSC 4th, NVA 2nd
U15 - VRSC 7th, NVA 9th
U16 VRSC 5th, NVA 10th
U17 VRS 1st, NVA 10th
U18 - VRSC 5th, NVA 1st

Rev will probably win the games where all the NVA girls left (2011, 2010, and 2009's) NVA will probably win the games where the girls stayed (2013, 2012, and 2008's)

Nah NVA will win at least 4 of them

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

2011s are playing EDP as well as ECNL-RL so they have a spring season.

Will that be any competition for them? I can’t imagine an RL team wouldn’t win every game 10-0.
I know some Arlington RL teams played last year in the spring in NCSL and played a year up and still dominated.

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Anonymous wrote:No chance NM and ML can actually coach all the teams GD is leaving AND coach Bethesda, with their season about to ramp up.

They can do it as well as GD did coaching 4 teams at GFR! They all have great assistant coaches too. And RL doesn't have a Spring season so GFR teams won't have much going on right now. It will be interesting to see if ML and NM keep coaching Bethesda teams next year but since the High Schoools run on different seasons it might be doable.

2011s are playing EDP as well as ECNL-RL so they have a spring season.

Will that be any competition for them? I can’t imagine an RL team wouldn’t win every game 10-0.
I know some Arlington RL teams played last year in the spring in NCSL and played a year up and still dominated.

The 2011's will be fine. A lot of RL teams play EDP to fill the void of games. They won't have any ECNL RL games in the Spring.

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Anonymous wrote:2011’s got Matt Lee, we got an email today

Any other teams get an email?

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Anonymous wrote:2011’s got Matt Lee, we got an email today

Any other teams get an email?

Yes - 09’s and 10’s got one, too - NM is taking those teams which makes sense because there’s a lot of double rostering between the 2

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting, so he is quitting on his commitments for all his GFR teams because the new boss won't let him double dip and extort his team parents? Good for her. Shows his poor character as well.

this is the situation in a nutshell.

feel badly for the vrsc teams getting stuck with him.