$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once there was a company that hired a foreigner on an #H1B visa as a manager.

Within a year, he fired all the Americans and replaced them with #H1B workers from his home country.

I know - because one of the fired Americans was me.

if you think this is going to help you and other Americab workers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

This is all a dog and pony show.

[Anonymous]

Backpedaling begins…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Backpedaling begins…

There is zero political coherence across the spectrum that the business community can react to. His incompetence is just staggering. At this point, business leaders are just trying to get to 2028 intact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with all of Trump's policies, but he has this one right.

i applaud Trump's effort to rein in a visa program that is harming highly skilled, highly intelligent American workers. Don't let anyone tell you we need the Indians because they are so much more talented than the American workers. That is a lie.

This is a program that is stealing jobs away from American employees while gifting immigrant employees with highly paid tech jobs. Jobs that were taken away from American employees.

Agreed but he’s doing it in his usual haphazard, disorganized way. It is been done more for its immediate effect and shock value than to bring about any lasting changes.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with all of Trump's policies, but he has this one right.

i applaud Trump's effort to rein in a visa program that is harming highly skilled, highly intelligent American workers. Don't let anyone tell you we need the Indians because they are so much more talented than the American workers. That is a lie.

This is a program that is stealing jobs away from American employees while gifting immigrant employees with highly paid tech jobs. Jobs that were taken away from American employees.

Agreed but he’s doing it in his usual haphazard, disorganized way. It is been done more for its immediate effect and shock value than to bring about any lasting changes.

+1

Trump said corporate lawyers and "others with agendas" misinterpreted his proclamation. Guess Lutnick has an agenda.

[Anonymous]

50M foreigners are living in the United States, legally.

It’s not just H1B. There are dozens of visa types - L1/L2, OPT, student visas, “temporary” work programs, family reunifications, you name it.

On paper, 70,000 L1 visas in a year doesn’t sound huge. But when each one brings a spouse (with full work rights) and kids (in U.S. schools), that number multiplies quickly. Add in the other visas and we’re looking at a million+ legal entrants per year.

And here’s the kicker: most never leave. Why would they? Once you’re in, the system is designed to keep you here.

[Anonymous]

In my 25yrs+ career I have never hired a H1B candidate less qualified and typically almost always more qualified even if just a batter overall candidate than one not requiring sponsorship for any of my corporate business openings incl EE, ME and IT. And actually in Finance they are great.

I have worked for F50 corps like Big 4, Citicorp, Booz Allen, Northrop and Siemens.

To say that all the jobs are taken by foreigners who are preventing American workers from being employed is such a generality and mostly untrue. I've turned away a lot of H1B hires because it wasn't either going to work budget wise or with the lottery system, it wasn't deemed feasible since it's not a guarantee they would be able to stick around. When you hire corporate professionals, you're looking at retention. I don't think most people understand how professional corp hiring is done. We don't just hire someone who is cheapest labor unless it is such a low level high turnover job and even then, sometimes working with Americans is not the easiest thing. There's a certain hunger for ambition to be found in immigrant communities. Also, there's a lot of organizations I've worked with who just don't want to deal with the legal headaches of sponsorship. So, the kind of positions that visa hires are taking really aren't the kind of jobs that are complex.

Yes, you are able to offer a lower salary to H1B since you're sponsoring them but no, it didn't make sense to do so given the total cost of their hire long term unless they were truly that good. Now it's true that lower level IT or if you hired customer svc, basically low level workers in volume - that could pan out for a business case - but for most skilled labor with some experience, no, the H1B candidate generally isn't taking jobs away from a citizen. It's easier to straight offshore which is what most co have opted to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once there was a company that hired a foreigner on an #H1B visa as a manager.

Within a year, he fired all the Americans and replaced them with #H1B workers from his home country.

I know - because one of the fired Americans was me.

Name the company, so that people can manage their money accordingly. Btw, Marriott has done that with their hotel staffing as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:50M foreigners are living in the United States, legally.

It’s not just H1B. There are dozens of visa types - L1/L2, OPT, student visas, “temporary” work programs, family reunifications, you name it.

On paper, 70,000 L1 visas in a year doesn’t sound huge. But when each one brings a spouse (with full work rights) and kids (in U.S. schools), that number multiplies quickly. Add in the other visas and we’re looking at a million+ legal entrants per year.

And here’s the kicker: most never leave. Why would they? Once you’re in, the system is designed to keep you here.

This issue has to be addressed comprehensively and in a more serious manner than a EO written by Stephen Miller and released on a late Friday afternoon. Why aren’t GOP lawmakers working on an immigration bill now that the GOP controls all the levers of power? They can pass something that addresses all the concerns they have with our immigration system. An updated immigration bill is way overdue in our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my 25yrs+ career I have never hired a H1B candidate less qualified and typically almost always more qualified even if just a batter overall candidate than one not requiring sponsorship for any of my corporate business openings incl EE, ME and IT. And actually in Finance they are great.

I have worked for F50 corps like Big 4, Citicorp, Booz Allen, Northrop and Siemens.

To say that all the jobs are taken by foreigners who are preventing American workers from being employed is such a generality and mostly untrue. I've turned away a lot of H1B hires because it wasn't either going to work budget wise or with the lottery system, it wasn't deemed feasible since it's not a guarantee they would be able to stick around. When you hire corporate professionals, you're looking at retention. I don't think most people understand how professional corp hiring is done. We don't just hire someone who is cheapest labor unless it is such a low level high turnover job and even then, sometimes working with Americans is not the easiest thing. There's a certain hunger for ambition to be found in immigrant communities. Also, there's a lot of organizations I've worked with who just don't want to deal with the legal headaches of sponsorship. So, the kind of positions that visa hires are taking really aren't the kind of jobs that are complex.

Yes, you are able to offer a lower salary to H1B since you're sponsoring them but no, it didn't make sense to do so given the total cost of their hire long term unless they were truly that good. Now it's true that lower level IT or if you hired customer svc, basically low level workers in volume - that could pan out for a business case - but for most skilled labor with some experience, no, the H1B candidate generally isn't taking jobs away from a citizen. It's easier to straight offshore which is what most co have opted to do.

This isn't Dubai. The US has a huge population. If someone has a skillset that cannot be found in a nation of 350,000,000, a $100,000 fee is peanuts.

[Anonymous]

There should be a law prohibiting employers from requiring laid off employees to train their replacements in order to get their severance.

[Anonymous]

Don't forget the workday in India is 10 hours. So not only are they cheaper, they have longer days.

[Anonymous]

Reduce H1B visas to like 1000. There cannot be that many “exceptional” people and if they are just filling a job we have TONS of CS people now - many of which need jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:50M foreigners are living in the United States, legally.

It’s not just H1B. There are dozens of visa types - L1/L2, OPT, student visas, “temporary” work programs, family reunifications, you name it.

On paper, 70,000 L1 visas in a year doesn’t sound huge. But when each one brings a spouse (with full work rights) and kids (in U.S. schools), that number multiplies quickly. Add in the other visas and we’re looking at a million+ legal entrants per year.

And here’s the kicker: most never leave. Why would they? Once you’re in, the system is designed to keep you here.

This issue has to be addressed comprehensively and in a more serious manner than a EO written by Stephen Miller and released on a late Friday afternoon. Why aren’t GOP lawmakers working on an immigration bill now that the GOP controls all the levers of power? They can pass something that addresses all the concerns they have with our immigration system. An updated immigration bill is way overdue in our country.

A future Democratic president rescinding the EO would require the "worker's party," which thrives on optics, to take specific action to snatch jobs away from Americans during a job availability crisis. And even if they do, it's about the uncertainty - who's gonna gamble on the NEXT guy not reinstating it?

[Anonymous]

Because this is for show. When they want to walk it back, they can. Neither party wants immigration reform. It's bad for business.