TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

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But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

You keep playing too. The Virginia AG is arguing at the appeal in support of the Coalition.

And he submitted a brief in support of them before the Fourth Circuit granted the emergency stay. And since then he’s broken the law quite publicly and repeatedly. Miyares doesn’t exactly have a lot of respect in legal circles.

So . . . what exactly has he done to break the law quite publicly and repeatedly?

He let people protest outside a Supreme Court Justice's home while a decision in a case was pending which is a violation of the law.

When did peaceful protest become illegal?

Protesting outside a Judge's while an opinion is pending? Since 1950 and as amended again in 1994 by Bill Clinton. Wake up you wokie and stop getting all of your news from MSNBC. Here is the law: 18 U.S. Code § 1507

So you're saying that peaceful protest which is my constitutional right is outlawed now?

Read the statute for yourself. And go F yourself

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

You keep playing too. The Virginia AG is arguing at the appeal in support of the Coalition.

And he submitted a brief in support of them before the Fourth Circuit granted the emergency stay. And since then he’s broken the law quite publicly and repeatedly. Miyares doesn’t exactly have a lot of respect in legal circles.

So . . . what exactly has he done to break the law quite publicly and repeatedly?

He let people protest outside a Supreme Court Justice's home while a decision in a case was pending which is a violation of the law.

When did peaceful protest become illegal?

Protesting outside a Judge's while an opinion is pending? Since 1950 and as amended again in 1994 by Bill Clinton. Wake up you wokie and stop getting all of your news from MSNBC. Here is the law: 18 U.S. Code § 1507

So you're saying that peaceful protest which is my constitutional right is outlawed now?

Read the statute for yourself. And go F yourself

Whoa. It's actually a close call where the line is drawn. https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/13/it-legal-protest-outside-justices-homes-law-sugges/

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this thread needs to be retired. Mostly causing high BP and acid re-flux

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yep. so many trolls.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
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L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

I agree that the way the Quant-Q was handled by Curie and TJ admissions was problematic, and eliminating the test was a good idea. Eliminating the rest of the comprehensive packet, however, was a terrible move. Someone keeps posting the falsehood that any kid could buy their way into TJ via Curie. That is not the case. The kids still needed a strong packet to get through the holistic review. If, in theory, a kid bought the entire Quant-Q from Curie (which they did not. At best, the kids saw a couple questions and got training on similar styles of questions), but was otherwise mediocre, that kid would have made Semifinalist, but then not been awarded a seat at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

Most people agree (based on previous posts) that a max of 25-50 kids are of the caliber who need or can leverage the facilities provided at TJ. The new process seems to miss more of these type of kids (no references but discussions in this board) than the previous. People can "pretend" to be in the top 25-50 based on the un-verified facts (stories) written in the essay. Most of the top kids will be bad (boring for them) in bragging/essay-writing.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

I agree that the way the Quant-Q was handled by Curie and TJ admissions was problematic, and eliminating the test was a good idea. Eliminating the rest of the comprehensive packet, however, was a terrible move. Someone keeps posting the falsehood that any kid could buy their way into TJ via Curie. That is not the case. The kids still needed a strong packet to get through the holistic review. If, in theory, a kid bought the entire Quant-Q from Curie (which they did not. At best, the kids saw a couple questions and got training on similar styles of questions), but was otherwise mediocre, that kid would have made Semifinalist, but then not been awarded a seat at TJ.

The data and I are going to have to disagree with you again. TJ Admissions used to publish on their slides for Admissions Information Sessions the average test percentiles for students at various levels of the process. Overall applicants, semifinalists, and those offered admission. There was a significant delta between the semifinalists and those offered admission in all three exams, suggesting that the exam score was a major factor in the holistic review. And who could blame the committee for this?

And guess what? By far, the biggest delta between the performance of semifinalists and offers was on the Quant-Q.

It was adopted as a secured exam, it was the single biggest separator at both the first and second thresholds of selection - and it was compromised.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
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But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

I agree that the way the Quant-Q was handled by Curie and TJ admissions was problematic, and eliminating the test was a good idea. Eliminating the rest of the comprehensive packet, however, was a terrible move. Someone keeps posting the falsehood that any kid could buy their way into TJ via Curie. That is not the case. The kids still needed a strong packet to get through the holistic review. If, in theory, a kid bought the entire Quant-Q from Curie (which they did not. At best, the kids saw a couple questions and got training on similar styles of questions), but was otherwise mediocre, that kid would have made Semifinalist, but then not been awarded a seat at TJ.

The Quant-Q is a fantastic exam that is extremely valuable as long as those sitting for the exam have not seen the question types before. It is designed specifically to evaluate how individuals handle quantitative reasoning problems that they've never seen before. It becomes less than useless if the people taking the exam have been told previously how to solve the problems it asks.

The exam was mishandled by two entities - Curie Learning Centers and their former clients who ran back to them with the test questions memorized after signing a statement agreeing not to discuss it.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

I agree that the way the Quant-Q was handled by Curie and TJ admissions was problematic, and eliminating the test was a good idea. Eliminating the rest of the comprehensive packet, however, was a terrible move. Someone keeps posting the falsehood that any kid could buy their way into TJ via Curie. That is not the case. The kids still needed a strong packet to get through the holistic review. If, in theory, a kid bought the entire Quant-Q from Curie (which they did not. At best, the kids saw a couple questions and got training on similar styles of questions), but was otherwise mediocre, that kid would have made Semifinalist, but then not been awarded a seat at TJ.

The data and I are going to have to disagree with you again. TJ Admissions used to publish on their slides for Admissions Information Sessions the average test percentiles for students at various levels of the process. Overall applicants, semifinalists, and those offered admission. There was a significant delta between the semifinalists and those offered admission in all three exams, suggesting that the exam score was a major factor in the holistic review. And who could blame the committee for this?

And guess what? By far, the biggest delta between the performance of semifinalists and offers was on the Quant-Q.

It was adopted as a secured exam, it was the single biggest separator at both the first and second thresholds of selection - and it was compromised.

So, you have data showing that kids with mediocre packets were offered admissions based solely on their test scores? Please share it.

There are 3 groups of kids with high Quant-Q scores: The naturally gifted, the prep kids who also have strong packets, and the prep kids who have weak packets. Admitting the first and second groups, for the most part deservedly so, would lead to exactly the data that you're citing. There is no evidence that any kids from the third group were admitted to TJ in the old system. They're definitely getting in now, so great job with the reforms!

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

Thanks you for clearing this up.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

Thanks you for clearing this up.

Seems like people are commenting on their own posts. That's ok. And this whole blaming of a prep center is a distraction. One thing though is still unclear to me. If all this prep center stuff was so bad, why can't a test be set up with non standard but challenging questions? Is it because of lack of capability or intent?

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

Thanks you for clearing this up.

Seems like people are commenting on their own posts. That's ok. And this whole blaming of a prep center is a distraction. One thing though is still unclear to me. If all this prep center stuff was so bad, why can't a test be set up with non standard but challenging questions? Is it because of lack of capability or intent?

A prominent and highly esteemed local math teacher offered to write precisely this type of test for TJ. They declined the offer. They don’t want a test, since any test at all would be detrimental to their main goal: reducing Asian students.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. The % of Asians is still overwhelming high while URMs are still quite low.

They can and should fix the AAP va base center issue but I like the new angle of a certain minimum # of slots for each MS. Even with that attendees are heavily concentrated in certain areas but this helps spread it out a bit at least

bingo. won't rest till we can teach those uppity asians a lesson.

yep. we won't do the work. let's just accuse them of cheating. just say we can't devise any objective test - because we know we can't do well there and just try to spin things over and over. if nothing else works we will just try to close to close the school. bingo it is.

Laughable. What happened happened. Denying it or diminishing its importance doesn’t help your cause. Repeating it just makes you look uninformed, out of touch, and driven by an indefensible agenda.

Stuff like this is why Harry and Asra and the failed “we keep winning” Coalition against TJ keeps losing.

You lie again. Judge said FCPS was racist. Now it is under appeal.

The point of the lawsuit was to change the admissions process. The Fourth Circuit and the Supreme Court both permitted it to continue for 2026, and the Fourth Circuit explicitly rejected Hilton’s reasoning in Judge Heytens’ opinion concurring with the appeal.

That was a big fat L.

And now Harry’s getting raked over the coals because he showed his whole arse in laughing at that kid doing the anthem at the SB meeting. Probably torpedoed what little chance he had of being electable.

Since I know he stalks these boards, I look forward to his response in 3….2…

#fakernews FCPS lost at the district court level. They filed and appeal to the Fourth Circuit and asked for a stay pending the decision on appeal. The Fourth Circuit granted the stay and the Supreme Court allowed the stay to remain. The appeal gets argued on September 16. So I'm not sure how you characterize this as a big fat L. You are probably another one of the those hack, arm chair lawyers that assured us the Coalition didn't have standing in the first place, would lose immediately, had no case, etc.

The Class of 2026 got selected and seated as planned, and as of right now there is absolutely no reason to expect that the Class of 2027 won't be seated in the same manner.

The Coalition doesn't even have named complainants anymore because they were both (remember, there were only two) eligible for the Class of 2026. Does anyone even know if those kids were admitted?

BIG
FAT
L.

But keep playing - you're doing great so far!!

What kind of ass clown calls a 2-1 decision on a stay order a big fat l?

Someone who prefers winning to name calling. The opinion agrees that FCPS is likely to succeed on appeal.

The Coalition is literally going to take a case to the Supreme Court with no names plaintiffs. If PLF even continues to do losing work pro bono.

Unfortunate that you losers had to go this route. "In an illegal effort to align TJ’s student body with the racial composition of the surrounding region, TJ abandoned its previous merit-based admissions system and adopted a new system designed to reduce dramatically the number of Asian-American students who attend TJ."

Not sure how why you'd call a system where the wealthy buy test answers merit based.

Not a single kid has ever been admitted to TJ because they bought test answers. In theory, if a kid bought the test answers and got a perfect score on the test, they would not have had the grades, teacher recommendations, essays, achievements and so on to get selected through the holistic process.

Curie said they placed over a third of the entering class that same year that many claimed they had seen questions in advance.

Citation for that? Over a third? If you're incapable of the most basic math, you really should stop posting. Anyway, Curie had 133 kids get offers. There are more than 399 kids in the TJ class, so it's not "over a third." It's actually going to be less than that since numerous TJ slots were double counted for the kids who declined TJ admission in favor of AOS/AET.

Even if Curie placed too many kids, that doesn't prove that they "bought the test answers." It shows that a substantial portion of Loudoun and Western Fairfax South Asian children have the grades, teacher recommendations, achievements, and essays to earn an admission offer in the holistic process. Kids never have been admitted to TJ with perfect test scores and nothing else to show for it. It is not entirely surprising to have so many Curie kids get admitted, since the South Asians in that area generally have advanced degrees in STEM. It's also not surprising that Curie kids will net most of the 90 or so LCPS slots, since the Venn diagram of kids in Loudoun who even want to commute all the way to TJ, Upper Middle Class South Asians, and Kids attending Curie is pretty much one single circle.

1) The correct number is 28%.

2) What proves that they "bought the test answers" is the consistently-confirmed narrative from Curie students who were in TJ's classes of 2023 and 2024 who have repeatedly said that they had seen questions from the secured Quant-Q exam while at Curie. Not the whole exam, but certain individual questions. That point is no longer up for debate among people who are to be taken seriously.

3) If you look at how the process for selecting semifinalists in the old admissions system worked (I'll distill it down to "the exams were graded on a curve" and "you had to be in a certain percentile to make the semifinalist round"), the artificially inflated exam scores that came with the inappropriately-acquired Curie question bank without a doubt removed many otherwise-qualified students from the semifinalist pool, meaning that the Admissions Committee didn't even get a chance to pass judgment on them. I can pretty much guarantee that dozens of Asian students who did not pay thousands of dollars for access to this question bank were eliminated from the process thanks to Curie's score inflation.

Thanks you for clearing this up.

Seems like people are commenting on their own posts. That's ok. And this whole blaming of a prep center is a distraction. One thing though is still unclear to me. If all this prep center stuff was so bad, why can't a test be set up with non standard but challenging questions? Is it because of lack of capability or intent?

A prominent and highly esteemed local math teacher offered to write precisely this type of test for TJ. They declined the offer. They don’t want a test, since any test at all would be detrimental to their main goal: reducing Asian students.

Checkmate time to close the thread

For the final time this all started because NAACP wanted more black kids accepted. That expanded to more lower-income folks as well to try and hide the real intentions.

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As a Taxpayer I wish they would shut TJ down. It's been scammed for years. Let's kids go to their own neighborhood school.