VYS Soccer - better or worse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

Conning Clubs Leage? Hard pass on that scam

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have a son on a red team I would not advocate moving to black just to win more games unless he's riding the bench. There is a HUGE difference at VYS between the red and black teams especially as they get older. I have 2 kids there one on red and one and black. The red team gets everything and the black team is just there to help pay the bills. Club fees have a $100 difference over the course of the year and the red team gets an additional practice each week, practices over the winter, gets better coaches, goes to more and better tournaments etc... It's my biggest complaint of VYS.

I have had kids play on VYS Red, VYS Black ... and even other VYS team, White I think it was ... over the years.

I didn't notice any real difference between the Red and the Black in terms of what you mentioned ("the red team gets everything") ... certainly the Red and Black teams frequently mixed it up during practice. Coaches were both pretty good, professional, etc.

I wasn't happy with the VYS White team experience. Not that it was anything they didn't "get" ... but they did not have enough players, several games with no subs, or even playing down a man because not enough players showed up ... there was never any use of Black or Red players to support the team in those cases ... the coach was disinterested and the players discouraged etc.

This was a few years ago at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a son on a red team I would not advocate moving to black just to win more games unless he's riding the bench. There is a HUGE difference at VYS between the red and black teams especially as they get older. I have 2 kids there one on red and one and black. The red team gets everything and the black team is just there to help pay the bills. Club fees have a $100 difference over the course of the year and the red team gets an additional practice each week, practices over the winter, gets better coaches, goes to more and better tournaments etc... It's my biggest complaint of VYS.

I have had kids play on VYS Red, VYS Black ... and even other VYS team, White I think it was ... over the years.

I didn't notice any real difference between the Red and the Black in terms of what you mentioned ("the red team gets everything") ... certainly the Red and Black teams frequently mixed it up during practice. Coaches were both pretty good, professional, etc.

I wasn't happy with the VYS White team experience. Not that it was anything they didn't "get" ... but they did not have enough players, several games with no subs, or even playing down a man because not enough players showed up ... there was never any use of Black or Red players to support the team in those cases ... the coach was disinterested and the players discouraged etc.

This was a few years ago at this point.

Well the way it is now there is a big difference. My kid on red has continued to practice twice a week. Never stopped. My kid on black stopped practice a month ago and won't start again until mid-January where it will be once a week. My red team kid has had scrimmages set up on weekends throughout this dead period too. Also - VYS has games professionally taped for all the red (Phoenix) teams so the coaches can review them with the kids. And I pay only $100 more over the course of the whole year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

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CCL2 would be a better fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

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CCL2 would be a better fit.

Nonsense. Vienna would be in Premier CCL on both girl and boys side. In NOVA, they would be an upgrade over Stoddert, NVSC, LMVSC and maybe better than Herndon on the boys side, especially at younger ages, and if CCL allowed them to retain more in-area talent, they would be more competitive at older ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

I heard that the club announced the Eagles 06 and older were moving to NCSL for the spring season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

I heard that the club announced the Eagles 06 and older were moving to NCSL for the spring season.

this could be simply because 06 and older are high school and VPL doesn't always have a robust spring season because of all of the high school athletes. but I'm a VYS parent (girls side) and haven't heard that announcement. I wouldn't read much into it though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the older VYS age groups 06s to 02/03s leaving VPL?

Where would they go?

On the boy side, back to NCSL.

I think they could do CCL. They have enough teams in each age group, don't they? CCL would take them.

I heard that the club announced the Eagles 06 and older were moving to NCSL for the spring season.

could also be concern about trips to tidewater and richmond, which I think would be border on pandemiparanoia, but we live in the bubble, so I fully expect some of that in some areas around here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the way it is now there is a big difference. My kid on red has continued to practice twice a week. Never stopped. My kid on black stopped practice a month ago and won't start again until mid-January where it will be once a week. My red team kid has had scrimmages set up on weekends throughout this dead period too. Also - VYS has games professionally taped for all the red (Phoenix) teams so the coaches can review them with the kids. And I pay only $100 more over the course of the whole year.

Must depend on the age. I have a Red player at VYS now, and they are not practicing right now either; practice stopped in November after the last tournament; practice will resume once per week in January. No scrimmages setup during this dead period for my son's Red team. And VYS has never taped any of our Red team games the entire fall season.

So, not doubting your experience, but it's not just a Red vs. Black thing ... our Red team has none of the stuff you've mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the way it is now there is a big difference. My kid on red has continued to practice twice a week. Never stopped. My kid on black stopped practice a month ago and won't start again until mid-January where it will be once a week. My red team kid has had scrimmages set up on weekends throughout this dead period too. Also - VYS has games professionally taped for all the red (Phoenix) teams so the coaches can review them with the kids. And I pay only $100 more over the course of the whole year.

Must depend on the age. I have a Red player at VYS now, and they are not practicing right now either; practice stopped in November after the last tournament; practice will resume once per week in January. No scrimmages setup during this dead period for my son's Red team. And VYS has never taped any of our Red team games the entire fall season.

So, not doubting your experience, but it's not just a Red vs. Black thing ... our Red team has none of the stuff you've mentioned.

Guessing your son is younger than U13? The games recorded have been U13 and up.
Not sure why they just don't record all the way down to U9s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the way it is now there is a big difference. My kid on red has continued to practice twice a week. Never stopped. My kid on black stopped practice a month ago and won't start again until mid-January where it will be once a week. My red team kid has had scrimmages set up on weekends throughout this dead period too. Also - VYS has games professionally taped for all the red (Phoenix) teams so the coaches can review them with the kids. And I pay only $100 more over the course of the whole year.

Must depend on the age. I have a Red player at VYS now, and they are not practicing right now either; practice stopped in November after the last tournament; practice will resume once per week in January. No scrimmages setup during this dead period for my son's Red team. And VYS has never taped any of our Red team games the entire fall season.

So, not doubting your experience, but it's not just a Red vs. Black thing ... our Red team has none of the stuff you've mentioned.

Guessing your son is younger than U13? The games recorded have been U13 and up.
Not sure why they just don't record all the way down to U9s?

It's very expensive to tape games I think. And I don't know too many U9's that would watch even 5 minutes of a game. I'm sure the parents would McLean doesn't even tape their ECNL games. Must be nice to have footage available to send coaches if you want to play beyond HS. All the McLean dads have to buy GoPros and run up and down the field taping their kids

[Anonymous]

U13 and above is real soccer on a regulation field with the normal number of players. Video helps improve soccer IQ and best for kids U13 and up.

[Anonymous]

Is VYS Phoenix 06G the best/highest tier team in that age group? My niece got an offer there and is asking me for an opinion. I’m clueless. I just officiate games on the side to fund my vices.