Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Another comment on another board asked if this was a birthday dinner for Nancy as her birthday was 1/27. If it was a birthday dinner, how interesting that none of her friends attended or other family members.

That’s not awfully interesting. 84 is a great age, but not a “milestone” birthday. A dinner at my house is exactly how I expect my own parents would hope to celebrate.

It’s interesting in that if it was planned as a celebration, given her recent birthday, that there were no other guests or witnesses to the dinner. Did she actually make it to the dinner? Was there a dinner?

The uber driver may have picked up a woman, but was it the mother?

Do you have local family? I think people who don't think get togethers need to be huge/momentous. We have annual birthday celebrations with my local MIL where no friends are invited! Not everything has to be a huge party. We just had one last week where we went do dinner then came back for cake. She had lunch separately with her friends. Not "interesting" at all- you are really trying to twist this into something nefarious.

Often elderly folks prefer small gatherings. When my grandma turned 90 we did a big extended family gathering. It wiped her out for the next month-lots of sleeping and exhaustion from too much excitement. She preferred brief visits with just a few people at a time.

This has nothing to do with elder preferences but establishing a scenario and supporting alibi.

If the police have no one to ask, you can’t possibly be found guilty.

If it’s just the three of you, and you’re living ten minutes away from each other, why is there a need for an Uber? Presumably time is flexible if others are not invited and if you had something to do, you could swing by and pick mom up right after or even have her ride along while you ran your errand.

The food would still be hot if you leave and grab her after you’re finished cooking.

If your kid needed to be dropped off at a sleepover or other event, same thing, logistics can be arranged that include stopping to pick her up.

But if you need to have someone else see her being brought to your home, to prove she was at a dinner with you, then you need the Uber.

There’s very few reasons to require an 84yo to Uber to your home for dinner.

It's not unusual for older people to take ubers in situations like this to go to someone's house, even when they are offered rides. My elderly great aunt was always telling me "I'll hop in a cab!" or "I'll just hop in an uber!" (after she learned to use it) when I invited her over, even if I offered a ride.

It was harder for her to refuse the ride back home because I was right there insisting in person with the keys in my hand.

This. My mom lived to 98. She hired a driver to take her places including family member's houses, friends' houses and the theater. She did not want to leave her home or lose her independence.

Your mom had money.

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Anonymous wrote:So if it was a failure to launch/special needs neighbor with a criminal record, who sent the very grammatically correct ransom note? A random person looking to get quick money with no tie to the case?

Failure to launch is not the same as special needs. Stop conflating them.

Can be.

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It’s Tomasso clearly.

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Very distinctive eyes and mouth. It does look like there is facial hair. Different build completely from BIL who is taller and broader.

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Great work waiting over a week to release this, this person could literally be anywhere in the world by now.

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Right now this board's biggest concern is pinning this on a white male. Lulz!

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Anonymous wrote:Great work waiting over a week to release this, this person could literally be anywhere in the world by now.

They didn't wait. She did not have a subscription. it was an ordeal to get these photos.

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Btw, this was a Nest cam. Not Ring.

(For those that care)

There is a "Nest" stamp in the top right of the images.

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Did anyone think the son in law actually did this himself? I thought the theory was that he masterminded it? Of course he wouldn’t have been able to do it himself since his absence at various times would have been noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:Great work waiting over a week to release this, this person could literally be anywhere in the world by now.

They didn't wait. She did not have a subscription. it was an ordeal to get these photos.

Sorry - you are right. I was misinformed, don’t fully understand the ins and outs of ring cameras or whatever the brand was and how having or not having a subscription impacts this.

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Anonymous wrote:Great work waiting over a week to release this, this person could literally be anywhere in the world by now.

Pay attention, the FBI was just finally able to restore the destroyed footage.

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The person must’ve been pretty confident they would not be recognized. They had no way of knowing the issues with the cameras that would’ve prevented someone immediately viewing the footage.

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Anonymous wrote:Very distinctive eyes and mouth. It does look like there is facial hair. Different build completely from BIL who is taller and broader.

Disagree. Same build as Tomasso.

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Anonymous wrote:The person must’ve been pretty confident they would not be recognized. They had no way of knowing the issues with the cameras that would’ve prevented someone immediately viewing the footage.

Or, they might have been inexperienced.

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This entire thing is terrifying! Who the hell does this to an 80-something year old woman! There’s no way this was random, right?