Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:This news article says

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

darn, hit send too fast. Anyway, it says police found the murder weapon and it had bullets marked with Antiffa and pro-transg writings

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the video of the man in the white hat and guy next to him making signs that someone posted yesterday. This is a close up of the men and there’s nothing violent, fyi.

https://www.threads.com/@ryshead/post/DOcwTuVjho6?xmt=AQF0ih4JsFf6dVqShr8GxnF6EGvccRtPDuPhq7JPMcHQUA&slof=1

Just stop. The man with the white hat is part of Kirk’s group.

Then why are they making those gestures right as he got shot? Genuinely curious. Were they signaling to move onto the next question? Seems odd, no.

Oh it’s a conspiracy! If only we knew the name of the man in the white hat! He must be wearing a mission impossible type mask.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter was a highly experienced sniper/marksman. One shot yet so precise from far away. The average person wouldn’t be able to do that. The shooter has some sort of military/government background for sure.I find it hard to believe some hare brained transgender kid was behind this.

Exactly. Military man...100%

Lol. Anyone with an hour of training could make that shot. You obviously know absolutely nothing about guns

Oy vey. Comparing weekend warrior deer hunting and target practice to a public assassination from a freakin’ rooftop reveals your lack of brainpower. I guess you’re also choosing to overlook the man who seemed to serve as a distraction so the assassin could flee the scene?

I guess you are way too stupid to understand a psychopaths brain works differently. They don't get nervous when they kill

Are you a psychiatrist specializing in killers?

If not, takes one to know one...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This news article says

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

darn, hit send too fast. Anyway, it says police found the murder weapon and it had bullets marked with Antiffa and pro-transg writings

How convenient.

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Anonymous wrote:This news article says

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

darn, hit send too fast. Anyway, it says police found the murder weapon and it had bullets marked with Antiffa and pro-transg writings

Sure it did! surprisingly Murdoch did not first put this in the NYpost.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those who say Charlie Lirk was a great person, nothing but respectful, only trying to do good in the world…

Do you think it’s a good thing that his organization (Turning Point USA) maintained a “Professor Watch List”? That list has led to people getting death threats and needing security to do their jobs. Would you want to be on such a list? Would that make you feel safe? Do you think putting people on a public list that results in them being targeted by unstable
individuals is a Christian thing to do?

I am really trying to understand how people can sort of paper over documented harmful actions like this. And I don’t wish to hear a whataboutism type argument about something a liberal did because that’s not the question at hand. It just seems to me that people are cherry picking certain actions and words to only paint CK in a good light simply because CK was on “their team”.

Please show us a police report describing these death threats.

Death threats at Orange Coast College, Princeton, Drexel, among others. The Drexel professor had to teach class over Zoom. An ASU professor was followed and shoved to the ground by a TPUSA cameraman, resulting in injury.

My discrimination litigator friends are up to their eyeballs in cases of tenured professors getting canned or threats from internal DEI departments or outsiders due to them being Jewish, conservative, or pro markets.

This case will be another one. As it seeks to threaten and bully away free speech and civil & open discourse.

Like an MLK assassination but if he was shot when younger with toddlers.

Were they on watch lists with their information made publicly available to randos for stalking and terrorizing them?

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter was a highly experienced sniper/marksman. One shot yet so precise from far away. The average person wouldn’t be able to do that. The shooter has some sort of military/government background for sure.I find it hard to believe some hare brained transgender kid was behind this.

Exactly. Military man...100%

Why wouldn’t a real expert get a clesn head shot?

A real expert would aim for center mass - the chest, not the head.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the video of the man in the white hat and guy next to him making signs that someone posted yesterday. This is a close up of the men and there’s nothing violent, fyi.

https://www.threads.com/@ryshead/post/DOcwTuVjho6?xmt=AQF0ih4JsFf6dVqShr8GxnF6EGvccRtPDuPhq7JPMcHQUA&slof=1

Just stop. The man with the white hat is part of Kirk’s group.

Then why are they making those gestures right as he got shot? Genuinely curious. Were they signaling to move onto the next question? Seems odd, no.

Oh it’s a conspiracy! If only we knew the name of the man in the white hat! He must be wearing a mission impossible type mask.

I saw a guy adjusting the brim of his hat on a sunny day and scratching his nose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter was a highly experienced sniper/marksman. One shot yet so precise from far away. The average person wouldn’t be able to do that. The shooter has some sort of military/government background for sure.I find it hard to believe some hare brained transgender kid was behind this.

Exactly. Military man...100%

There are thousands and thousands of young men in Utah and the Mountain West generally who grew up hunting and shooting. It's not Bethesda out there. Most people know how to handle a gun. Besides, it wasn't a perfect shot. No one aims for the neck. He either went for a head shot and hit low. Or a chest shot and hit high. There is nothing remarkable about the shot or the distance itself in the context of Utah.

I think all of this chatter speculating on the skill of the shooter is silly. That said, the shooter did hit him in the chest. CK had a vest on and the bullet struck him in the upper right chest then ricocheted up into his neck and then his brain. You can see it if you watch the video frame by frame, not that I recommend that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This news article says

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

darn, hit send too fast. Anyway, it says police found the murder weapon and it had bullets marked with Antiffa and pro-transg writings

How convenient.

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Yep, that big Antifa logo on his shirt is a tell tale sign.

Haha. The flag and gun image is so MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter was a highly experienced sniper/marksman. One shot yet so precise from far away. The average person wouldn’t be able to do that. The shooter has some sort of military/government background for sure.I find it hard to believe some hare brained transgender kid was behind this.

Exactly. Military man...100%

Why wouldn’t a real expert get a clesn head shot?

A real expert would aim for center mass - the chest, not the head.

Why? A chest wound isn't fatal. A neck wound usually is.

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From a pure skill level, this is a beginner level shot. The US military every week takes people that have never fired a weapon and trains them to fire up to 500 meters, more than twice the distance of this shot, and make that shot consistently. This process only takes a couple weeks at most. It is not a magical process. Rifles are extremely simple machines.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't gun violence; this was a targeted assassination of a major leader because of political views. If guns were outlawed, they would have poisoned him, run him over, killed him with a knife, bomb, etc

It was with a bolt action hunting rifle, which is why these calls to link this with gun control are absurd. No one is banning bolt action hunting rifles. Even the most radical anti-gun posters would think that’d be impossible to do.

But it's true that most mass shootings occur with weapons that should be banned. I blame the state of Utah and that campus specifically for being lax on security on this instance. There were fewer than 10 officers monitoring this event, and apparently... there wasn't even an ambulance, which protocol dictates should always be on hand for a large group event. This isn't an American thing. Every country that has ambulances knows you put an ambulance at a gathering. It comes automatically when you request a permit for your event.

Now of course none of these things might have saved Kirk, since he was shot directly in the jugular. That was a total fluke shot! But the odds are in favor of survival when police is more numerous and an ambulance is on site.

In short, much of what happened that day was entirely abnormal.

Someone on threads pointed out that all the LE on site, all the concealed carry, didn’t stop this. The instinct, after the shot, was to run and hide. If you listen to the stories this is what happened. It was deeply traumatic for the kids there, which is something we don’t talk about.

It was armed to the teeth yesterday, and that didn’t prevent a gun tragedy.

Thus, maybe we should look at getting rid of guns. The trauma of gun violence is worth it.

I read there were only six local LEOs there and no ambulance, which is not a lot of security for a 3,000-person event. Kirk himself had private security of about ten people.

That's some bad security then. They obviously did not sweep the premises. You have to do more than just surround someone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter was a highly experienced sniper/marksman. One shot yet so precise from far away. The average person wouldn’t be able to do that. The shooter has some sort of military/government background for sure.I find it hard to believe some hare brained transgender kid was behind this.

Exactly. Military man...100%

Why wouldn’t a real expert get a clesn head shot?

A real expert would aim for center mass - the chest, not the head.

It a vest would block that.