Joe is out

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Anonymous wrote:Wow.

White House just posted Biden’s official schedule for the week.

And there are zero events.

He has Covid.

He has something worse than COVID.

I guess they’ll finally announce the Parkinson’s next year if he makes it to Inaug day

My father died of Parkinson's. It's a terrible disease. Slow moving, until it's not.

I think he received a poor prognosis fairly recently . COVID is a cover up for something else. I don’t like Biden but even I got very sad watching him walk up Air Force One last week. He looked weak and defeated. The bad news from the campaign, party operatives /donors, and perhaps a doctor probably all weighed on him but at least he made it to be President in his final years That is something to be proud of.

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PPP was a national emergency. I don't agree with Trump furnishing the funds, but you do see a difference between that and your kid taking out student loans and then deciding they don't want to pay them back, don't you?

Trump put put the loans with no oversight or safeguards in place and as a result, a lot of it went to people and companies that didn't need it, just a total grift and giveaway

Why a child tax credit? You wanted the kid, now pay for them instead of demanding other tax payers do with a steeper and steeper progressive tax system. It's time the tax system is flattened so more people pay.

US tax system is all about incentives. The US needs more kids and the way to do that is to make it more affordable. If you want to take it away. take away all the loopholes and benefits, not just the ones for the poor

I have nothing against the black kid getting into a prestigious school as long as their test scores aren't weighted differently for race. If you have to weight and play games to boost the score of someone to displace a better student, then we have problems.

When everyone starts off in the same place, then they can be evaluated evenly. If you think a kid who grew up in a million dollar household with tutors and a top notch high school education doesn't have advantages over someone else who didn't have those same benefits and advantages, then you don't get it. How about imposing a 100% estate tax so wealth is not passed on. Let every kid get the same start in life, the same education, the same background and then let the cream rise. But you just assume that because someone like Trump started on 3rd base, he is somehow better than others.

I hope you understand the other side's positions. Yes, I hope you understand other people's positions and perspectives

BTW, we have shortages of insulin and other medications right now. That's what edicts from Uncle Sam in his ivory towers causes - market dislocations followed by shortages of goods and services. Compare how long it takes to get an appointment with the specialist in the medical field today versus several years ago. What you are complaining about has been the case for years, which is why the ACA was needed. The GOP still refuses to help fix the ACA or come up with a different solution

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Anonymous wrote:We're democrats and we're going to import 10 million people and fly them all over the country in the dead of night.

Now YOU can't get on an airplane without proper ID, but these illegal aliens? Sure. YOU can't travel all over the country without a covid test, but these illegal aliens? Sure. You aren't given credit cards loaded with eleven thousand dollars, but these illegal aliens? Sure. YOU vets will remain homeless, but these illegal aliens will be given room and board at $300 a night hotels for months on end. The cities are going broke...but so what. Everything is wonderful as long as the "browning of America" continues. Just make sure they don't some to certain places like Martha's Vineyard or Denver or other liberal enclaves with gated communities.

Sincerely yours,
The DNC

This is completely fair as long as we can fault a certain Texas Governor for throwing immigrants on a bus and plane rides to other states....

You realize you've created an agitative situation of pitting state against state, right. That seems to be what you leftists revel in.

Not really. If you're scared to death of migrants and hate them illegally entering, it surely would suck if a governor takes those migrants and gets them on transit to SPREAD even further out through the country.

DP. The point, which you insist on missing over and over, is that liberals are quite happy to pay lip service to welcoming migrants. Well, as long as they’re not in THEIR backyard. Out of sight, out of mind, amirite? Once they become a reality in YOUR life, then all of a sudden we have “a problem.” You people are the poster children for hypocrisy.

I have lived 95% of my life with and around migrants - shopping, eating, living life etc., including growing up and going to school and my kids doing the same.

Now, I do think we need to streamline the process of immigration but that is a separate issue.

You are very much in the minority if you have no problem with illegal immigrants receiving free healthcare, housing, and education in the U.S.

You do realize that even those who are undocumented are largely paying taxes right? They are contributing to those things just the same as you and me. It’s not “free.”

Sorry, no. When they receive free emergency room care (using it like a typical doctor’s office) , the taxpayers are footing the bill. When their children crowd the schools, the kids who are actually citizens get far less attention. We all know this. The “paying taxes” trope is absurd. Most are paid in cash, under the table, any amount of taxes taken out are minuscule. Just stop with your ridiculous excuses for importing more and more poverty.
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False. The majority work "on the books" and receive paychecks. In 2016 it was estimated that in Virginia undocumented workers paid between $200M and $304M in sales, excise, property, and income taxes. Estimated $13B same year in contributions to Social Security Trust Fund. Maybe your landscape worker is paid under the table but many work in places like meat and food processing and are on payroll. And they can get a tax ID number for withholding purposes. In 2019, according to the IRS, more than 2.5 million tax returns were filed using ITINs, accounting for nearly $6 billion in taxes.

Of course, Trump has always courted the low information voters. A published study in 2021, "Cognitive Sophistication, Religion, and the Trump Vote" (you can actually download free from Wiley" included a 10 point vocabulary test. 73% of the people who didn't get a single test question right were Trump voters. Each question answered correctly correlated to a 14% DROP in the likelihood of voting for Trump.

Has it never occurred to you to wonder why Trump said "I love the poorly educated"? They will believe anything apparently.



So, what were your SAT vocab scores?

So let's do some simple math. You claim they paid $6B using ITNs.

DHS estimates there are about 11-12 million undocumented people living here. Let's be VERY generous and assume half of those are are kids.

So that leaves 6 million undocumented people paying $6B in so called taxes.

Big whoop, that equals only a $1000 paid by every undocumented individual here illegally who is working and supposedly paying tax.


They are clearly not paying their fair share of income tax,.which is the primary bulk of taxation for any legal citizen. Consumptive taxes mean jack squat.


I pay sales taxes too when I go travel on holiday in Europe or when I got study abroad for a year. Does that entitle me access to all of their social benefits, their schools, and healthcare just because I pay some VAT? Lol, hell no, because I'm not a citizen and I don't pay fill income taxes.


Lol, I love this crappy argument Dems always use. If you actually calculated the numbers, it clearly shows undocumented don't pay anywhere near their fair share of income tax. The rest of the taxes are superfluous, because people who travel here on vacation also pay those sales taxes, yet we wouldn't allow them to enroll their kids in our schools.

So, what was your SAT math score?

Probably below 450 I'm guessing.

So you only concern yourself with the taxes paid rather than why you get to pay like 1.99 for baby spinach? Anyone can counter your argument by pointing out how little they're paid in the first place for their labor, which is why Americans can still go buy a "family size" tray of chicken breasts for a ridiculously low price. Meanwhile, some 14yo falls into the meat grinder while mopping the bloody floor.

Well if you ate worried about 14 year olds bring injured in the workplace, you should vote Democratic. That is the party that supports worker protections and adequate funding for OSHA.

Dems also support children being in school, not working dangerous jobs. For some reason, a spat of GOP Governors have lifted the bans on child labor over the past three years. Go figure.

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I love that all the Dems can push at this point is that you better vote for Harris because she is black and female, and that if you don't you must be a racist.

Give me a goddamn break. Does Harris have anything to offer other than being black and a female?

Good grief, she grew up her entire life in a supremely privileged household well above the mean for income. She has nothing in common with so many average Americans. Just a truly lousy candidate. You're gonna have to offer something of substance other than her race and what is between her legs, Dems.

Yes, she will continue the successful foundation that Biden has placed:

Strong rebound from COVID
Consequential infrastructure, manufacturing and "green' legislation passed
Re-established stature on the global stage.

The presidency is more than just the person, and Biden-Harris has been the most consequential since FDR.

I just can't... good grief.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Come on Kamala! I love Joe Biden and I’m sad to see him go. I think Kamala will energize the ticket. She will give voters what they want, something new and someone young!

YES! And now TRUMP is the senile cranky grampa. Let's make something of HIS age.

And what is this rumor of J Manchin trying to switch back to a Dem to run against Harris?? He is also up there in age - 76.

He backs abortion bans, no chance.

OMG -- if you Dems can't see that you need someone like Manchin to run in order to win against Trump you are wearing blinders. So many Trump supporters would abandon him outright to support Manchin. It's called compromise. It's called unification.

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In addition, he absolutely supports abortion rights, even if he's personally pro-life.

https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/manchin-supports-bipartisan-effort-to-codify-roe-v-wade

He is 76 years old. Did you not learn your lesson with Biden?

True - but someone with his more moderate leaning policies have a better chance IMHO of beating DJT.

Harris, like Biden. Jeffries, Schumer and others are moderate dems. Unlike the GOP that let their radical right fringe take over.

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Anonymous wrote:Major Biden donor John Morgan tells @ABC News he won't fundraise for Harris if she's the nominee

"If Trump World could pick anybody to run against, I think they pick her."

Racists gotta racist.

There you are. A winning message, truly.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way Kelly will serve under Kamala.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow.

White House just posted Biden’s official schedule for the week.

And there are zero events.

He still has COVID. What is your point?

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White House just posted Biden’s official schedule for the week.

And there are zero events.

This is dangerous with two wars going on with men who want to blow up their respective regions, and one waiting in the wings.

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I love that all the Dems can push at this point is that you better vote for Harris because she is black and female, and that if you don't you must be a racist.

Give me a goddamn break. Does Harris have anything to offer other than being black and a female?

Good grief, she grew up her entire life in a supremely privileged household well above the mean for income. She has nothing in common with so many average Americans. Just a truly lousy candidate. You're gonna have to offer something of substance other than her race and what is between her legs, Dems.

Yes, she will continue the successful foundation that Biden has placed:

Strong rebound from COVID
Consequential infrastructure, manufacturing and "green' legislation passed
Re-established stature on the global stage.

The presidency is more than just the person, and Biden-Harris has been the most consequential since FDR.

I just can't... good grief.
DP

+1. The presidency is not more than a person. We could have a parliamentarian system where the party chooses the leader. We do not. The founding fathers specifically chose not to do this.

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I love that all the Dems can push at this point is that you better vote for Harris because she is black and female, and that if you don't you must be a racist.

Give me a goddamn break. Does Harris have anything to offer other than being black and a female?

Good grief, she grew up her entire life in a supremely privileged household well above the mean for income. She has nothing in common with so many average Americans. Just a truly lousy candidate. You're gonna have to offer something of substance other than her race and what is between her legs, Dems.

While Trump rose up from poverty and is a true man of the people, right?

Trump never pretended to be something he wasn't. At least he is for securing the bridge while Harris and Biden literally let in ISIS terrorists.through their open borders:

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/dhs-identifies-400-migrants-brought-us-isis-linked-human-smuggling-rcna158777


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-alleged-isis-ties-living-us-two-years-officials-say-rcna150281


Border Czar Harris would be an unmitigated disaster for national security, because her and Joe have already proven how terrible they are at it and have allowed ISIS affiliates in.

And you probably believe JD Vance grew up in a log cabin in Appalachia, right? When in reality he grew up in an upper middle class suburban ohio household and went to Ohio State and Yale Law. Hardly a "man of the people"

DP. He grew up in a *working class* suburb, raised largely by his Appalachian grandparents and his heroin addict mother, spending summers in the Appalachian town where his grandparents were from. He joined the military, then went to Ohio State on the GI Bill. All of which you know, but continue to rewrite to suit your idiotic purposes. We see right through you.

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Sorry, no. When they receive free emergency room care (using it like a typical doctor’s office) , the taxpayers are footing the bill. When their children crowd the schools, the kids who are actually citizens get far less attention. We all know this. The “paying taxes” trope is absurd. Most are paid in cash, under the table, any amount of taxes taken out are minuscule. Just stop with your ridiculous excuses for importing more and more poverty.
DP

Then the GOP should have passed their own immigration reform bill that Biden said he would sign.

Trump told them not to, so they didn't.

GOP owns the issue now, and not in a good way.

If it were a serious problem, it would have been dealt with in a serious manner.

As we all know, the GOP's own immigration reform bill - HR-2 - was watered down to such an extent by Democrats that it would have been virtually useless. There's a reason it didn't pass. Meanwhile, Joe Biden decided that oops, he actually *could* sign a border EO. Because it's an election year, of course.

Senator Lankford is a republican. He wrote the GOP bill for the senate. The Dems supported it and the GOP was supprting it until Trump scuttled it.

HR 2 did nothing about fentanyl or other issues that the GOP continues to bleat about.

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Anonymous wrote:We're democrats and we're going to import 10 million people and fly them all over the country in the dead of night.

Now YOU can't get on an airplane without proper ID, but these illegal aliens? Sure. YOU can't travel all over the country without a covid test, but these illegal aliens? Sure. You aren't given credit cards loaded with eleven thousand dollars, but these illegal aliens? Sure. YOU vets will remain homeless, but these illegal aliens will be given room and board at $300 a night hotels for months on end. The cities are going broke...but so what. Everything is wonderful as long as the "browning of America" continues. Just make sure they don't some to certain places like Martha's Vineyard or Denver or other liberal enclaves with gated communities.

Sincerely yours,
The DNC

This is completely fair as long as we can fault a certain Texas Governor for throwing immigrants on a bus and plane rides to other states....

You realize you've created an agitative situation of pitting state against state, right. That seems to be what you leftists revel in.

Not really. If you're scared to death of migrants and hate them illegally entering, it surely would suck if a governor takes those migrants and gets them on transit to SPREAD even further out through the country.

DP. The point, which you insist on missing over and over, is that liberals are quite happy to pay lip service to welcoming migrants. Well, as long as they’re not in THEIR backyard. Out of sight, out of mind, amirite? Once they become a reality in YOUR life, then all of a sudden we have “a problem.” You people are the poster children for hypocrisy.

I have lived 95% of my life with and around migrants - shopping, eating, living life etc., including growing up and going to school and my kids doing the same.

Now, I do think we need to streamline the process of immigration but that is a separate issue.

You are very much in the minority if you have no problem with illegal immigrants receiving free healthcare, housing, and education in the U.S.

You do realize that even those who are undocumented are largely paying taxes right? They are contributing to those things just the same as you and me. It’s not “free.”

Sorry, no. When they receive free emergency room care (using it like a typical doctor’s office) , the taxpayers are footing the bill. When their children crowd the schools, the kids who are actually citizens get far less attention. We all know this. The “paying taxes” trope is absurd. Most are paid in cash, under the table, any amount of taxes taken out are minuscule. Just stop with your ridiculous excuses for importing more and more poverty.
DP

False. The majority work "on the books" and receive paychecks. In 2016 it was estimated that in Virginia undocumented workers paid between $200M and $304M in sales, excise, property, and income taxes. Estimated $13B same year in contributions to Social Security Trust Fund. Maybe your landscape worker is paid under the table but many work in places like meat and food processing and are on payroll. And they can get a tax ID number for withholding purposes. In 2019, according to the IRS, more than 2.5 million tax returns were filed using ITINs, accounting for nearly $6 billion in taxes.

Of course, Trump has always courted the low information voters. A published study in 2021, "Cognitive Sophistication, Religion, and the Trump Vote" (you can actually download free from Wiley" included a 10 point vocabulary test. 73% of the people who didn't get a single test question right were Trump voters. Each question answered correctly correlated to a 14% DROP in the likelihood of voting for Trump.

Has it never occurred to you to wonder why Trump said "I love the poorly educated"? They will believe anything apparently.



So, what were your SAT vocab scores?

So let's do some simple math. You claim they paid $6B using ITNs.

DHS estimates there are about 11-12 million undocumented people living here. Let's be VERY generous and assume half of those are are kids.

So that leaves 6 million undocumented people paying $6B in so called taxes.

Big whoop, that equals only a $1000 paid by every undocumented individual here illegally who is working and supposedly paying tax.


They are clearly not paying their fair share of income tax,.which is the primary bulk of taxation for any legal citizen. Consumptive taxes mean jack squat.


I pay sales taxes too when I go travel on holiday in Europe or when I got study abroad for a year. Does that entitle me access to all of their social benefits, their schools, and healthcare just because I pay some VAT? Lol, hell no, because I'm not a citizen and I don't pay fill income taxes.


Lol, I love this crappy argument Dems always use. If you actually calculated the numbers, it clearly shows undocumented don't pay anywhere near their fair share of income tax. The rest of the taxes are superfluous, because people who travel here on vacation also pay those sales taxes, yet we wouldn't allow them to enroll their kids in our schools.

So, what was your SAT math score?

Probably below 450 I'm guessing.

Mic drop.

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Anonymous wrote:I want Andy Beshear for president.

I want any Democrat or even a moderate Republican (if they exist anymore) - really anyone besides Trump would be a relief. It's as simple as that.

Larry Hogan

+100

+1,000 I have been cheering for him to be president all along!

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I love that all the Dems can push at this point is that you better vote for Harris because she is black and female, and that if you don't you must be a racist.

Give me a goddamn break. Does Harris have anything to offer other than being black and a female?

Good grief, she grew up her entire life in a supremely privileged household well above the mean for income. She has nothing in common with so many average Americans. Just a truly lousy candidate. You're gonna have to offer something of substance other than her race and what is between her legs, Dems.

While Trump rose up from poverty and is a true man of the people, right?

Trump never pretended to be something he wasn't. At least he is for securing the bridge while Harris and Biden literally let in ISIS terrorists.through their open borders:

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/dhs-identifies-400-migrants-brought-us-isis-linked-human-smuggling-rcna158777


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-alleged-isis-ties-living-us-two-years-officials-say-rcna150281


Border Czar Harris would be an unmitigated disaster for national security, because her and Joe have already proven how terrible they are at it and have allowed ISIS affiliates in.

And you probably believe JD Vance grew up in a log cabin in Appalachia, right? When in reality he grew up in an upper middle class suburban ohio household and went to Ohio State and Yale Law. Hardly a "man of the people"

DP. He grew up in a *working class* suburb, raised largely by his Appalachian grandparents and his heroin addict mother, spending summers in the Appalachian town where his grandparents were from. He joined the military, then went to Ohio State on the GI Bill. All of which you know, but continue to rewrite to suit your idiotic purposes. We see right through you.

I know little of JD Vance, nor what you too are arguing about, but I looked it up and he's from, and grew up in, Middletown, Ohio, which is staggeringly close to Cincinatti to be some Appalachian sob story. Now looking it up and...it's basically a suburb only 40 minutes from downtown Cincy. What Appalachian man are you talking about?