What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t know that it was simultaneous. If the wife went ahead to get help but collapsed the husband wouldn’t. Know. He may have been sitting there for a while.

They could have split up further back with the wife looking for help and the husband was trying to alternate resting and moving forward. My guess is that husband was trying to carry the dog in his arms and baby in the carrier.

All within a few minutes of each other is pretty much simultaneous. And wouldn't either of them who saw the other collapsing tried to use the cell phone? You people just come up with wacky scenarios when its more likely they were victims of something toxic that got them all at once or it's a murder/suicide.

You seem incapable of absorbing information. This has been discussed many times but you remain oblivious to any change to educate yourself.

You seem to think that DCUM discussing something is the actual truth. You are oblivious on how options are considered and analyzed and just follow DCUM-groupthink and postings of dramatic depictions of how the events unfolded. Try to use that brain of yours.

Nah. Legitimately stupid ideas are being given too much air here. This used to be unusual for this site.

They has been an influx of dimwitted MAGAs in recent years. They believe all kinds of made up BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

So many assumptions. Some very wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how you heat stroke people are still denying that there is clearly something funny. There is now way they would close trails NOW if they didn't have some inclination of that. Again, people die of heat stroke out in the world all the time and it doesn't shut down parks. And they didn't only close the path in question so I do not think this is about looky loos.

Its a one in a million chance of winning the lottery, but a 100% chance someone wins it. Weird stuff happens, someone has to be the one in a million/billion that some freak incident happens to.

And before you all crow at me, it is not that I think it would be impossible or unlikely that they would die of heatstroke on a day like that. But the police are NOT acting in a way that implies that this is a straightforward heatstroke case. They just aren't.

Because as some one above posted, they don't want lookyloo websleuths walking the trail and potentially experiencing heatstroke themselves. They don't have the manpower to monitor the trails. Makes sense to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

So many assumptions. Some very wrong.

In my post above? Very few assumptions really except for the unforeseen event. And there may not even have been an unforeseen event if they just overestimated there abilities by too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

The sheriff said that the family was well prepared for the hike. You just can't accept that something happened to this family, that they weren't bad parents making bad decisions that you disapprove of.

[Anonymous]

This case seems pretty obvious to me. One of the adults was physically ailing in some way (overcome by the heat, something like a back spasm or twisted ankle, or even an unforeseen medical emergency unrelated to the heat- those do happen). The 2nd adult couldn’t manage to help their partner along with the other baggage (baby and dog). Even if it was petite mom, dad would be unable to carry her AND the baby out in the heat.

The dog didn’t start the ball rolling. Much as we all love our pets, we’d get baby out first and come back for pup.

Once one adult was down, the other succumbed to heat stroke and overexertion. Baby and dog never had a chance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

The sheriff said that the family was well prepared for the hike. You just can't accept that something happened to this family, that they weren't bad parents making bad decisions that you disapprove of.

They were not well prepared evidenced by the fact that they attempted a very strenuous trail with no shade, during extreme weather, with a baby and a dog.

Their bodies lay on the trail for two days. Nobody who has any sort of experience of hiking in this area, or has prepared by researching the conditions, was going anywhere near that trail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This case seems pretty obvious to me. One of the adults was physically ailing in some way (overcome by the heat, something like a back spasm or twisted ankle, or even an unforeseen medical emergency unrelated to the heat- those do happen). The 2nd adult couldn’t manage to help their partner along with the other baggage (baby and dog). Even if it was petite mom, dad would be unable to carry her AND the baby out in the heat.

The dog didn’t start the ball rolling. Much as we all love our pets, we’d get baby out first and come back for pup.

Once one adult was down, the other succumbed to heat stroke and overexertion. Baby and dog never had a chance.

So you haven't read anything about this? Not the first page? Not the most recent pages? No articles with statements from the police or the park rangers? Nothing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

The sheriff said that the family was well prepared for the hike. You just can't accept that something happened to this family, that they weren't bad parents making bad decisions that you disapprove of.

3L (that's roughly 3 quarts for the metric impaired) of water. That's not enough for the two adults and a dog. Dogs are terribly inefficient at drinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how you heat stroke people are still denying that there is clearly something funny. There is now way they would close trails NOW if they didn't have some inclination of that. Again, people die of heat stroke out in the world all the time and it doesn't shut down parks. And they didn't only close the path in question so I do not think this is about looky loos.

Its a one in a million chance of winning the lottery, but a 100% chance someone wins it. Weird stuff happens, someone has to be the one in a million/billion that some freak incident happens to.

And before you all crow at me, it is not that I think it would be impossible or unlikely that they would die of heatstroke on a day like that. But the police are NOT acting in a way that implies that this is a straightforward heatstroke case. They just aren't.

Because as some one above posted, they don't want lookyloo websleuths walking the trail and potentially experiencing heatstroke themselves. They don't have the manpower to monitor the trails. Makes sense to me.

I'm just gonna bold what you didn't read. I even used the stupid term looky loo. They are closing a huge area and they are citing hazards as the reason. This case is UNUSUAL in how they are going about treating it. Again, people die of heatstroke all the time, and the police don't make this big a fuss about it. If they police had come out on day one saying they thought it was heat stroke then no one would be paying it any attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

The sheriff said that the family was well prepared for the hike. You just can't accept that something happened to this family, that they weren't bad parents making bad decisions that you disapprove of.

3L (that's roughly 3 quarts for the metric impaired) of water. That's not enough for the two adults and a dog. Dogs are terribly inefficient at drinking.

The sheriff knows what the family had with them. That hasn't been disclosed. There's a lot of information that the public doesn't have. It's something to keep in mind while speculating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Other than temp, what harm or events led to heat stroke? They're not mutually exclusive, and the latter doesn't necessarily overpower the former. Can we agree on this? - I'm the "summon the spirit reader" pp. Haven't posted since.

I'm not sure, but on the Facebook thread someone was asking about the source of water for their home and if they were using a well. I'd so they mentioned the possibility of arsenic in the water.

This is so idiotic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Other than temp, what harm or events led to heat stroke? They're not mutually exclusive, and the latter doesn't necessarily overpower the former. Can we agree on this? - I'm the "summon the spirit reader" pp. Haven't posted since.

I'm not sure, but on the Facebook thread someone was asking about the source of water for their home and if they were using a well. I'd so they mentioned the possibility of arsenic in the water.

This is so idiotic.

Why? Arsenic in the water can cause dizziness and nausea. And it's not like the homes in that area are connected to a municipal water system that filters out impurities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read a lot about this case and it seems to me that a bunch of circumstances have come together with tragic results.

Inexperienced hikers who overestimated their abilities and perhaps did not plan properly, brutal temperatures, perhaps something unforeseen like taking the wrong trail or the dog not being able to walk and needing to carried. And from then on things went south rapidly as often happens in similar cases.

The trail being closed certainly complicates things but it may really just be to keep people from snooping around and possibly getting into trouble themselves.

The sheriff said that the family was well prepared for the hike. You just can't accept that something happened to this family, that they weren't bad parents making bad decisions that you disapprove of.

Making a bad decision doesn't make a person bad. ALL people make bad decisions at various points in their lives, it's just that circumstances sometimes exacerbate bad decisions into tragic outcomes. If you truly believe that only bad people make bad decisions or bad decisions imply a person is bad, I encourage you to work on shifting your mindset as that can really negatively affect your life and relationships.

[Anonymous]

Any update about whether or not their dog was chained/leashed?